So who is leaving?

[DwaynePurvis00]

I actually thought he showed some speed we didn't know he had last night. Excellent FT shooter that is a great value with his ball handling late in a game...and he has shot the 3 ball well.

Exactly

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

the only thing Furst will test will be in the classroom next yr

Rotations more than likely

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Good thing he earned his keep this year by being the best shooter in the B1G.

And one of the best in the country

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Waddell, Berg, Furst and let Loyer test the NIL waters. People are going to say not Loyer, but he hasn't grown defensively, he can't create his own shot and isn't a strong enough rebounder. Let the young guys grow under Smith's leadership, grab a big scoring guard in the portal along with a rim protector and this team would be ok.

If, Fletch stays the more power to him. But let hm earn his keep. It would force Cam and Myles to get better as well.

Loyer is one of the best shooters in the country and next year will push for being THE best shooter in the country. W need to run action for him and get him 6-8 3s a game.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

I get the concerns and it could backfire. I just feel he's pretty close to the same player we recruited and hasn't changed much in his game to get better. Plus, I see Harris could fill his void if he left.

Shooting is always a plus, but right now we need scorers and that's limiting our success. We just don't have enough of them to go out and get us points.

I get your points.

11
10.3
13.8

32%
44%
46%

1.7
1.6
2.1

PPG, 3P%, 3PM for Frosh, soph and junior year for fletch.

Improved every year.

% wise he is currently 4th in the country on 150 attempts. You sure you are good with him to leave? Cuz I certainly am not.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Obviously I don't think he should be let go.
But I do think the he's starting no matter what role hasn't necessarily helped him have a sense of urgency to improve his liabilities.

Yes, he's a great shooter. He still needs to play way better defense. He still needs to not disappear on offense for long stretches in games. He needs to stop those drives to the basket that end up with him flailing to draw a foul. He needs to stop with the flopping.

But given he's one of only two consistent outside shooters on the team, you need him to
be successful next season. But he needs to do more than shoot.

We need to get him shots though. We don’t don’t manufacture ANYTHING for him. Run the kid off double, triple screens. WHY DO WE NOT GET HIM OPEN SHOTS ON PURPOSE

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

I see Burgess likely leaving along with Berg, think 1 of Heide, Colvin, Cox, Harris go as well, nature of the beast these days. Ideally, I hope all 4 of the last players stay, just think Matt is going to bring in a couple portal players and someone might see a lack of playing time their reason. I do think TKR, Fletcher, Smith all return and flourish next year, would like for Loyer to be the 4th option though, in this scenario he’d get a ton of open looks, many times he seems to stand around too much and doesn’t shoot enough.

Why would burgess leave? What better opportunity would he have? His mins will increase next year and he will play for national championship contender. Who is going to give him more NIL money and more PT at a P5 school that’s better than Purdue?

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Maybe Heide or Colvin? This offence is not suited to them. You have 3 players who shoot 80 % of the shots while the 2 other players on the floor move to the side lines to watch. It was very different with a 7ft 4 Eady in the middle then a 6ft 9 TKR, and you have Smith who drives the middle and again 2 players go out to the side lines in hopes they get the ball passed to them. I the last 5 games Colvin has shot 27 times and Heide 8 times. In high school Heide was the one who had the ball most of the time and comes to Purdue where he has to play his part in this offence of Painters. I know Heide chose Purdue but sometimes you just have to make a change, and he will be a junior so he will have 2 years left. I hope he stays but I could understand if he wanted to leave.

So who fills their roles? Cuz it’ll be the same with whomever comes in if they leave and everyone will complain if those guys don’t shoot 40% from 3 on 1-3 shots a game and don’t get 5+ rebounds a game

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

The entire team, 1-13 need to play better defense. Not just one player.

We haven’t played good defense from the 1-5 position since the baby boilers days

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

I believe you have to reread Painter’s comments with respect to the context of the question that was posed to him. The question was players leaving via the portal and gaining players via the portal. That should take Furst out of the discussion. Furst isn’t leaving via the portal.

Painter further said he will have his annual evaluations/talks with each player after the season. This says two things. First, he will have those talks after the season and they haven’t happened yet. It’s possible that Beth and Wadell could be encouraged to leave. But they haven’t been encouraged to leave yet.

But the biggest kicker is the report by a quasi respected source that one player went to Painter and informed him that he was planning on leaving via the portal. A player can always enter the portal and later pull their name. You saw. In the football season where many players entered the portal but their actions were not made public until after the season was completed. The football coach kept their decision private.

To me this is the most likely and believable scenario. Painter has indicated he hasn’t sat down with any player. And won’t be doing so until after the season. If a player did come to painter, it would be painter’s nature to keep their decision private issue private and not discuss it with the media. And I believe painter may have also kept it private from other players. Although it’s possible that it may have been revealed at the players only meeting.

I’ve already named my gut choices: one of Harris, Myles, cox or benter.

I will add one thought. I believe the news will come first from the player , much like Catchings, eastern and Haarms before Painter announces it or discusses it publicly.

What report? Please provide the link/source to the report that a player told painter he is leaving.

 

[TwinDegrees2]

We need to get him shots though. We don’t don’t manufacture ANYTHING for him. Run the kid off double, triple screens. WHY DO WE NOT GET HIM OPEN SHOTS ON PURPOSE

I think Painter needs to go back in time and run a lot of motion offense which opens it up for more players to score. And help side on the defense might work at times. And...here I go sinning...toss in a couple of zones.

 

[TwinDegrees2]

What report? Please provide the link/source to the report that a player told painter he is leaving.

It could be a player injured early who has decided to leave and test the water.

 

[BBG]

What report? Please provide the link/source to the report that a player told painter he is leaving.

His "source"

 

[BBG]

If I had another guess it would be Waddell as his girlfriend is now at Louisville.

 

[TwinDegrees2]

If I had another guess it would be Waddell as his girlfriend is now at Louisville.

Could be, but if he's not getting time here, he's going to be an academic student there.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

It could be a player injured early who has decided to leave and test the water.

DJ? Why would he leave big Man U?

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

I think Painter needs to go back in time and run a lot of motion offense which opens it up for more players to score. And help side on the defense might work at times. And...here I go sinning...toss in a couple of zones.

We need to switch something up for sure

 

[qazplm]

What a wild comment.

Yeah don't care about a guy who spends most of his time playing I'm a better fan than you.

 

[qazplm]

We need to get him shots though. We don’t don’t manufacture ANYTHING for him. Run the kid off double, triple screens. WHY DO WE NOT GET HIM OPEN SHOTS ON PURPOSE

Ok, of course why doesn't he create his own shots? Some of it is that we just dump it down yes and that's not his fault but he turns down open enough shots all the time or tries to take ill advised drives.

 

[qazplm]

The entire team, 1-13 need to play better defense. Not just one player.

Loyer is consistently the worst perimeter defender we have. He's certainly the worst among the starters.