He doesn’t see the border issue being as bad as I and many do. Maybe they should send a thousand immigrants to the town he resides to get a first hand view.
So we need to fix the border.
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An attempted insurrection.
They don’t get positive credit for being conspiracy theory idiots who were bad at it.
Y’all keep emphasizing “unarmed”. They did not have a firearm? Or, they did not have any weapons? Assuming that you are correct that the vast majority did not have firearms, they certainly had weapons as they beat the cops with whatever they could find. Stolen batons, sticks, flag poles, pepper spray, bear spray, revolving doors, steel barricades, etc. Either way the following definition of an insurrection is “an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government”. Does not mention anything that a firearm or even a weapon is requirement for an insurrection. Just because they weren’t successful, doesn’t mean that an insurrection was not attempted. At the least, if you don’t want to use the word insurrection, you can’t argue against that they were there to stop a democratic process of certifying the 2020 election.
It wasn't even an attempted insurrection. Nobody that attempts an insurrection leaves on their own accord without attempting to accomplish their goal.
Firearms being the important "weapon" here. I think it was your idiot in cheif that said AR15's are useless against the government and that you'd need F-15's. So sticks, flag poles and pepper spray is nothing. MOST of those items were never originally intended to be used as weapons either, but you aren't interested in facts. You prefer the narrative.
Great day in the morning. Dude, stop watching Faux News. What do you mean no follow up? After Jan 6 we’ll over 1,100 deplorables were arrested. More will come as the investigation is on going. Almost 900 deplorables convicted.
You not only misquoted what he said, but you didn't understand what he was saying. Then @HoosierfanJM backed you up on it.
I mean no follow up by the people you believe were part of a so called insurrection. Did they come back the next day? Ah no! Have they come back ever since? Ah no!
That was one heck of an attempt to overthrow the government. Scary times right? 😂
Why would they come back? As inept as the Capitol police were during the attack, they got everything under control by the end of the day. The vote was finally certified. Nothing foolish enough to come back to.
I thought your side said it was an insurrection? I guess the revolt ended in 5-6 hours. Whew that was close.
Yeah you’re right. Trump’s attempts were much more viable and much worse.
Just asking since the megaphone could be used as a weapon in blowing out someone’s eardrum or who knows what else. Maybe the Democrats will be using this as evidence in their prosecution cases against Trump next.
Exactly. NO party has had control of all 3 branches of legislative Govt due to the 60 vote rule in the Senate. It is a FALSE claim @BNIBoiler makes on here all the time about Rs having the Senate, House & Presidency for 2 years. The 60 vote rule in the Senate, makes this a false claim everytime it happens under either party.
Totally FALSE.
You must have fell asleep during your high school civics class. Yes, 60 votes is needed in some instances. Then there are 66 votes needed to override a veto or expelling a senator. There is also a unanimous consent vote where 100 senator need to vote “yea” in order for passage. That’s what happened when Rand Paul was the loan jackass to vote against the Emmitt Till Ant-Lynching Bill. Lastly, the majority of bills just need a simple majority. In case of a tie, the Vice President votes. This is the instance where the repubs had the majority and failed to pass a bill to fix the immigration problem despite being the loudest mouthpiece for immigration/border reform.
U.S. Senate: About Voting
You must have fell asleep during your high school civics class. Yes, 60 votes is needed in some instances. Then there are 66 votes needed to override a veto or expelling a senator. There is also a unanimous consent vote where 100 senator need to vote “yea” in order for passage. That’s what happened when Rand Paul was the loan jackass to vote against the Emmitt Till Ant-Lynching Bill. Lastly, the majority of bills just need a simple majority. In case of a tie, the Vice President votes. This is the instance where the repubs had the majority and failed to pass a bill to fix the immigration problem despite being the loudest mouthpiece for immigration/border reform.
U.S. Senate: About Voting
www.senate.gov
Telling me you don't understand cloture without saying it. That's ok. I understand it's complicated.
I remember Obama saying in 2016 that it would take years for the annual GDP to exceed 2.0. He asked with what magic wand would Trump bring employment. He said his biggest fear was N Korea starting WWIII. He said he wanted the border closed, but he was ineffective. And he kept drawing a line in the sand with Russia, Islamic terrorists, and the Middle East. He kept giving money to countries that chanted, "death to America."
Trump promised to create jobs, a good economic situation for all, and to close the border and have Mexico pay for it. Trump more than delivered. He built strong jobs with good pay, so many families got off of food stamps. He renegotiated trade deals and got NATO countries to pay their fair share. He secured the border, and while Mexico did not take out a check for the wall, they sent troops to their southern borders to stop the migrants and troops to the northern borders to secure it. They even housed hundreds of thousands of people who wanted to come into the US legally. He calmed down N Korea, Putin kept in line, he stopped ISIS, and he orchestrated the Abraham Peace Accords. Think about that! Can anyone name a higher act of diplomacy?
However, I agree with you. IMO, Xi outflanked him by unleashing the Wuhan Flu. I sincerely think Bill Gates was involved too, wanting to reduce the world population. Fauci and WHO knew about it and told Trump that it just started, and don't worry, it is not contagious. Trump closed off travel from China and Wuhan flu-contagious countries. He did this with the propaganda at full blast, calling him a racist and Pelosi taking an entourage to SF Chinatown. Can you name a US President who has handled any national flu or virus better?
BTW, it seems like mutants continued to grow when Biden opened the border. More people died under Biden and yes I realize many got sick when Trump was still in office.
^^^^ How to let people know you're batshit conspiracy theory crazy without literally saying "I'm batshit conspiracy theory crazy." ^^^^
No; I will watch the rule of law deteriorate, and I will weep for our children.
And, hoping that people that disagree with you move out of the country? The land that has been the home of so many generations of my ancestors? The land where myself and my family have gotten an education, paid taxes, served in law enforcement and the military, and been wounded in that service?
Such a sad, sad, sad thing to think, and so very sad to think that it's somehow appropriate to say it.
To not see that BOTH parties Presidents for the last several decades have pushed the envelope of using & dismantling Executive Orders to create or destroy their own law is either disingenuous, highly partisan or both.
Moreover, hopefully you likely know that unelected agencies are doing the same thing to Americans via regulations and policies that NO ONE voted on. To me these law creating bureaucrats are the biggest danger, and why I believe the Agencies need to be strategically dismantled and reconstructed for the benefit of the people.
Agreed! I am not a fan of Executive Orders. Terrible precedent; terrible idea.
As far as unelected agencies? In a representative republic, that's how it works. Elected legislators set up and fund agencies. Elected executives (usually) are the ones that appoint agency heads. There are millions of people needed to man the day to day operations of agencies. I assume that you would agree that each of those employees does not need to be elected, and that the experience and expertise that these employees bring is invaluable.
So what do you propose? Have each staff position in every government agency be elected? Not trying to put words in your mouth - I doubt that's what you'd want. But what DO you want to happen?
What policy changes that you think Trump will change concern you most?
As for moving out of the country, I was kidding (sort of). Don't you remember all those lefty libs who peacocked about moving out of the US if Trump were elected in '16? They were crowing pretty loud, until.....Trump was elected.
Few, if any, were willing to put their money were their big fat mouth was (Rosie Odonnell).
I would be for politicians that want to ......
1. Do away with the DOE. For starters.
2. One at a time, study needed essential functions & then fire ALL Agency personell, and consolidate any federally needed duties under one or a very few agencies. If you analyze the content of this article, you can glean the true essential nature of some of these Agencies.
Shutdown reveals some gov't agencies are more essential than others
While some agencies have a high rate of "essential" employees, several have furloughed over 90 percent of their employees
www.cbsnews.com
Consolidate and condense some federal agencies?I would be for politicians that want to ......
1. Do away with the DOE. For starters.
2. One at a time, study needed essential functions & then fire ALL Agency personell, and consolidate any federally needed duties under one or a very few agencies. If you analyze the content of this article, you can glean the true essential nature of some of these Agencies.
Shutdown reveals some gov't agencies are more essential than others
While some agencies have a high rate of "essential" employees, several have furloughed over 90 percent of their employees
100 percent agree.
Rather than do that in a chaotic flurry, the best way to do that is through consolidation and attrition.
You may think "fire everyone in the Social Security Administration and start over!" until your check doesn't arrive and there's no one that knows how the hell to get it to you.
You may think "Eliminate the Department of Energy" until there's an accident at a nuclear power plant near you because regular inspections weren't performed.
Lots of people think that some government agencies can be eliminated; not many want the duties that those agencies perform to be eliminated.
UNIONS ...The "fire everyone" was ONLY stated because these folks are unionized. If the Agency is eliminated and everyone fired, I thought that would be the way to get around the Union. Then some, as needed, can be hired back, hopefully @ a lower cost.
Btw the DOE I referred to was the Dept of Education not the D of Energy.
I think the word that applies is “myopic.”
Eliminate the Dept of Ed? Great idea until your kid can’t get a scholarship or student aid because FAFSAs haven’t been processed.
Eliminating and re-hiring? Good grief—that sounds like utter chaos. And who sits on the hiring panels if you’ve eliminated the agency?
The joys of unions...likely only way around them. In my business this happened in Illinois where all were fired in my career, and just over 20% were rehired. So I speak from actual experience.
FAFSA can be absorbed by consolidation.
Financial chaos of bloated bureaucrats in these agencies creating work is what we have now.
I am happy to see that in my very long reply, this is the only thing about which you are upset.
Before anyone heard of Wuhan, I read articles where Gates experimented with various vaccines in Africa and India. I read that hundreds of thousands died. They centered around their claim that his father wanted to depopulate the world. Another coincidence is that I heard Gates went to Epstein's Island, so I don't believe we will be hearing about the passenger list for a long time.
I went on Google to verify this, but I saw tons of articles denying that Gates did anything wrong. Maybe my memory is faulty, but I believe that Gates has a lot of money to convince "fact-checkers" how to slant their views.
Then again, if you hear a lie enough times, you believe it is true. I believe Nixon won in 1960. I believe JFK was an okay President, but then again, I believe RFK was one of our top political figures in my lifetime. I don't believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, but Jack Ruby did. Having said that, I think Bill Gates will be exposed again.
My sister lives in Europe, and she has sent me things about Trump that she hates, and I sent the facts. As a matter of fact, I thought Trump running was a PR stunt. He would call in News shows and give his opinion, and then the News would advertise that they had an exclusive interview with Trump. So I listened, and it was common sense. I then heard the NBC, ABC, and CBS political analysts tell me a warped version of what Trump said. I worked on Madison Avenue, and I know how they all talk among themselves, and I knew for a fact that they were doing all they could to get rid of him. I therefore became more and more involved. It is funny that the conspiracy theories that I formed became facts. BTW, the Ellsberg Papers confirmed many of my political conspiracy theories. I stopped getting so involved in politics and even voted for Obama, praying he would bring hope and change. I was a Civl Rights Leader, and Trump if you do your research, you will see that Trump did much more for blacks than Obama. Unfortunately, thinking critically is not taught as well any more.
