So, it comes down to this tomorrow

[bonefish1]

The election is riding on that 3-4% slice of the electorate that will decide the swing states .

Will people look past what Trump (or comedians at a Trump rally said) said and believe his policies will lift the country out of this hole?
Wil Trump grad enough of the black male votes out of places like Detroit, Philly, Pitt and Atlanta?

Will people believe that Harris will really be different than Biden?
Has her campaign done a good enough job of laying out policy vs just attacking Trump?

When it's all said and done, the entire election will probably come down to 2 states.

 

[BB62]

If the polls under represent the trump vote as they did in his last two elections he most likely wins.

If women turn out en mass as there are signs that it will, Harris can overcome it. The women over 65 vote may be surprising and crucial.

Interesting poll in Iowa.

 

[Boiler Buck]

The election is riding on that 3-4% slice of the electorate that will decide the swing states .

Will people look past what Trump (or comedians at a Trump rally said) said and believe his policies will lift the country out of this hole?
Wil Trump grad enough of the black male votes out of places like Detroit, Philly, Pitt and Atlanta?

Will people believe that Harris will really be different than Biden?
Has her campaign done a good enough job of laying out policy vs just attacking Trump?

When it's all said and done, the entire election will probably come down to 2 states.

Any other R would win. Country says 79% wrong track right now.

If K2 wins she will be the first to overcome that by...
1. Having media 100% behind her lies
2. Lying to public about abortion.... which is not a national issue any longer. Media assisted in this lie.
3. $ for lying TV adds and the team of unethical election ground game minions it bought.
4. Division of Hate wins.

If T wins......
1. People are ready for great policy for the people...not against the people
2. People are broke and will accept even Trump
3. People are tired of the border invasion & want a fix.

People just want this over.....either way.

 

[BB62]

Any other R would win. Country says 79% wrong track right now.

If K2 wins she will be the first to overcome that by...
1. Having media 100% behind her lies
2. Lying to public about abortion.... which is not a national issue any longer. Media assisted in this lie.
3. $ for lying TV adds and the team of unethical election ground game minions it bought.
4. Division of Hate wins.

If T wins......
1. People are ready for great policy for the people...not against the people
2. People are broke and will accept even Trump
3. People are tired of the border invasion & want a fix.

People just want this over.....either way.

Just because abortion was sent back to the states doesn't mean it's not a national issue. Wtf are you talking about. You're parroting trump again........who says with a dead brain that EVERYBODY, even dems, wanted Roe overturned. He seems to think that gets him off the hook with women. Totally clueless.
It's very much a national issue. It's the biggest issue with the demographic that might put Harris over the top.

 

[Boiler Buck]

Just because abortion was sent back to the states doesn't mean it's not a national issue. Wtf are you talking about. You're parroting trump again........who says with a dead brain that EVERYBODY, even dems, wanted Roe overturned. He seems to think that gets him off the hook with women. Totally clueless.
It's very much a national issue. It's the biggest issue with the demographic that might put Harris over the top.

You are showing your ignorance ...again.

It is in no way a national issue regardless of who wins. The USSC made it forever more a state issue.

 

[Katscratch]

You are showing your ignorance ...again.

It is in no way a national issue regardless of who wins. The USSC made it forever more a state issue.

You're just flat out wrong. I live in a fairly conservative/red area and most families that I interact with are conservative, but not evangelical by nature.

The women in those families are uniformly really pissed about the overturn of Roe V. Wade and the message it sent.

 

[BNIBoiler]

The election is riding on that 3-4% slice of the electorate that will decide the swing states .

Will people look past what Trump (or comedians at a Trump rally said) said and believe his policies will lift the country out of this hole?
Wil Trump grad enough of the black male votes out of places like Detroit, Philly, Pitt and Atlanta?

Will people believe that Harris will really be different than Biden?
Has her campaign done a good enough job of laying out policy vs just attacking Trump?

When it's all said and done, the entire election will probably come down to 2 states.

Low black turn out will favor Chump and the repubs like it always does historically. However, I do not suspect low black turnout during this election cycle.

Any possible increase in the black support for Chump, certainly no where near what the polls are projecting, will not be nearly enough to swing the election in his favor.

 

[TheGunner]

Sadly, any other R wins. I think Trump wins if he selects Nikki Haley as VP (stops male, racists comments, afraid of powerful women, Haley schools anyone in any debate). Also starts a logical transition of powerful to a capable female WH candidate.

Dems win if they select anyone halfway coherent aka that is not Biden or Harris.

 

[TheGunner]

Just because abortion was sent back to the states doesn't mean it's not a national issue. Wtf are you talking about. You're parroting trump again........who says with a dead brain that EVERYBODY, even dems, wanted Roe overturned. He seems to think that gets him off the hook with women. Totally clueless.
It's very much a national issue. It's the biggest issue with the demographic that might put Harris over the top.

You're just flat out wrong. I live in a fairly conservative/red area and most families that I interact with are conservative, but not evangelical by nature.

The women in those families are uniformly really pissed about the overturn of Roe V. Wade and the message it sent.

JMO 2 cents

It’s only a national issue if 1 of 2 things happen…
1 Democrats get majority rule in HoR and Senate or change the USSC
Or
2 Republicans and Democrats actually decide to “split the baby” King Solomon style. Aka the Republicans agree to allowing a minimum 12 week abortion in all states and the Democrats agree to prevent abortions after 28 weeks except in extenuating circumstances (rape, incest, viability mothers life)

Good luck getting 1 or 2 anytime soon.

Item 2 would be simple with rational thinkers in charge, that’s not going to happen anytime soon in this political environment. Republicans would be well served getting a few more women elected to help rationalize their base.

Look to Europe for some rational thinkers on the current situation. They have both a religious conservative base and socially liberal constituents.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/abortion-laws-europe-2024-04-15/

 

[BB62]

You are showing your ignorance ...again.

It is in no way a national issue regardless of who wins. The USSC made it forever more a state issue.

I don't think we're talking about the same thing.

"Lying to public about abortion.... which is not a national issue any longer. Media assisted in this lie."

What is the lie about abortion that the media assisted in?

To me a national issue is one that concerns people all over the country and is important enough that people actually vote because of it. The gender gap in this election is huge.......and abortion is a big reason for it.

 

[bonefish1]

Just because abortion was sent back to the states doesn't mean it's not a national issue. Wtf are you talking about. You're parroting trump again........who says with a dead brain that EVERYBODY, even dems, wanted Roe overturned. He seems to think that gets him off the hook with women. Totally clueless.
It's very much a national issue. It's the biggest issue with the demographic that might put Harris over the top.

Sort of like immigration is a National issue? Or voter ID laws?

 

[Riveting]

You're just flat out wrong. I live in a fairly conservative/red area and most families that I interact with are conservative, but not evangelical by nature.

The women in those families are uniformly really pissed about the overturn of Roe V. Wade and the message it sent.

Uniformly? Now you are speaking for all the women in those families.

Where do you get time to monitor the views of local women and still monitor where trans people hang out?

Are you a trust fund kid with nothing to do but be a nuisance to your community?

 

[Boiler Buck]

It's simple.......

SENSE of Rs vs NONSENSE of Ds

 

[Riveting]

It's simple.......

SENSE of Rs vs NONSENSE of Ds

True, but it is not simple for those who heads are already full of dem nonsense.

 

[Riveting]

I don't think we're talking about the same thing.

"Lying to public about abortion.... which is not a national issue any longer. Media assisted in this lie."

What is the lie about abortion that the media assisted in?

That Trump would sign a national abortion ban law. Harris and her hacks have said that repeatedly.

He has said he would not and that the policy belongs in the states, where it is now.

 

[Boiler Buck]

That Trump would sign a national abortion ban law. Harris and her hacks have said that repeatedly.

He has said he would not and that the policy belongs in the states, where it is now.

Yes the abortion project 2025 lies have been everywhere. Not to mention the debate where the media inaccurately fact checked both Trump and JDV on abortion. Everyone knows that that who has paid attention......why I didn't bother to answer his stupid question.

The Dems so want it to be an issue......and easily manipulated there dumb voters to believe it still was. Give them credit there ......they know how dumb there sheep are. So politically -- well done by the Dem masters & media.

But the truth is, it is no longer a national issue. Permanently relegated to the States.....until Dems somehow can pack the USSC.

 

[BB62]

Yes the abortion project 2025 lies have been everywhere. Not to mention the debate where the media inaccurately fact checked both Trump and JDV on abortion. Everyone knows that that who has paid attention......why I didn't bother to answer his stupid question.

The Dems so want it to be an issue......and easily manipulated there dumb voters to believe it still was. Give them credit there ......they know how dumb there sheep are. So politically -- well done by the Dem masters & media.

But the truth is, it is no longer a national issue. Permanently relegated to the States.....until Dems somehow can pack the USSC.

I don't know what your hang up is with saying "national issue".

Women are pissed off because some states are starting to institute their draconian abortion laws. Iowa just went to 6 weeks.......and a serious poll just showed Harris up 3.

The gender gap in polling is huge.......and the number one issue for women is abortion. You keep your head buried in the sand and ignore it at your own peril. If Harris wins you'll claim fraud when the reason will likely be women and their position on abortion. It doesn't matter to them if the states are in charge or not.

I'm truly shocked the dems are campaigning on the idea of a national abortion ban........because we can surely count on trump to tell us the truth. You don't think your Christian brothers and sisters won't push trump for a ban?

Trump says Harris will put us into a depression and WW3. The dems aren't the only ones that make claims on what the the other side will do.

 

[Quix0te]

But the truth is, it is no longer a national issue. Permanently relegated to the States.....until Dems somehow can pack the USSC.

The point is that neither Trump nor Harris can do anything about national abortion laws, or lack thereof. The Dobbs decision has made it a states rights issue. Period. If Trump won and wanted a national ban on abortions, he would be powerless to do it. Likewise, if Harris wins and wants to make Roe v Wade the Law of the Land again, she would have zero authority to do so. It is not an issue in the presidential election and Democrats who squeal that it is are lying to America.

Illegal immigration is an issue over which the president has enormous influence. Harris would obviously maintain the status quo, Trump would stop the lunacy.