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Scrimmage against ISU thoughts:

I've been a Boiler long and enough and am old enough that I am a realist. While every poster mentions JT as a plus if/when he is able to play I simply am not going there. As much as I hope that anyone who works as hard as he seems to have and has waited so long to be a Boiler has I am not putting any weight on his ability to contribute. This team has enough talent to compete with anybody on the schedule with or without JT and that's what I'm anticipating for this season.
 
I've been a Boiler long and enough and am old enough that I am a realist. While every poster mentions JT as a plus if/when he is able to play I simply am not going there. As much as I hope that anyone who works as hard as he seems to have and has waited so long to be a Boiler has I am not putting any weight on his ability to contribute. This team has enough talent to compete with anybody on the schedule with or without JT and that's what I'm anticipating for this season.
Agree with you. If JT can’t go, I think Purdue is still an amazingly talented team but probably needs Ewing to improve as they head in to February to help spell Vince/Haarms just a bit at the 4 and deep 5. If JT comes back and is able to play similarly to the WUG, Purdue’s ceiling is raised a bit more due to the flexibility he gives in the 4/5 position.
 
Why does every damn post on this board go WAY off topic? Come on boilers, it's almost time for our highly anticipated boilers to play ball, and were arguing about teaching
don't want to overwhelm with too much basektball. It is about baby steps...

 
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Johnny and TJ,
Did either of you see a difference in this team relative to last year which will help against a team like they faced last year in Kansas?
It's a very open question and probably too early to say but I am curious if you saw a change that could push to that level.

First, I don't think Purdue played the typical Kansas..and not sure Purdue was at the top of their game. That said, as you know Purdue has an influx of athleticism to go with their skill. Purdue has more depth with length than last year. Purdue has two unusual skill/size players (Haarms and Nojel). Purdue has the ability to play faster than last year (it is where Carsen is best...and the skill players are matured as well)...and yet be able to pound the ball inside as needed. Matt has a lot of versatility with skill, length and athelticism, but no one dominant player. That is a two edged sword...who does the opposition watch if several are equal and who does Purdue go to if several are equal? To me the Kansas game was more about having the players inside that they never had to contribute more resources to Purdue's bigs (like Louisville) and that made it much more difficult for the perimeter players. Haarms is not your typicla 7'3" player and that is an advantage and Nojel can get to the rim and hopefully get comfortable knocking down Fts. I just see more pieces that Matt can adjust ...or set the tone than last year...but we must remember...those pieces are untested...
 
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I am very disappointed to read these posts. I was hoping Haas would continue to show signs of being a lot more aggressive (as he was this summer) and have a breakout season. IMO last year he would seal off a side and let Biggie or others grab the rebound. He seemed passive last year, because when he played aggressively and picked up a foul he was pulled. This year, I thought we had enough depth with the big men that Haas could dominate and not worry about fouling. I was envisioning 12 rebounds and 2.5 blocks a game - in addition to being the first option in the half court set. I thought minimally he would play 27 minutes a game and I had hoped 30. I just don't get it. He seems to have the attitude, the footwork and the knowledge - what is holding him back? Who can stop him?
 
I am very disappointed to read these posts. I was hoping Haas would continue to show signs of being a lot more aggressive (as he was this summer) and have a breakout season. IMO last year he would seal off a side and let Biggie or others grab the rebound. He seemed passive last year, because when he played aggressively and picked up a foul he was pulled. This year, I thought we had enough depth with the big men that Haas could dominate and not worry about fouling. I was envisioning 12 rebounds and 2.5 blocks a game - in addition to being the first option in the half court set. I thought minimally he would play 27 minutes a game and I had hoped 30. I just don't get it. He seems to have the attitude, the footwork and the knowledge - what is holding him back? Who can stop him?
I would say his best defender is the shot clock and the three point shot has hindered his defensive rebounding...which is where "most" people get the majority of the boards. He has a lot of body to move. 16 and 7 are possible for him I think
 
I am very disappointed to read these posts. I was hoping Haas would continue to show signs of being a lot more aggressive (as he was this summer) and have a breakout season. IMO last year he would seal off a side and let Biggie or others grab the rebound. He seemed passive last year, because when he played aggressively and picked up a foul he was pulled. This year, I thought we had enough depth with the big men that Haas could dominate and not worry about fouling. I was envisioning 12 rebounds and 2.5 blocks a game - in addition to being the first option in the half court set. I thought minimally he would play 27 minutes a game and I had hoped 30. I just don't get it. He seems to have the attitude, the footwork and the knowledge - what is holding him back? Who can stop him?
When I think great rebounders they tend to be long, but lean and agile, not bulky. 280 lbs is damn hard to move quickly and changing direction is tough as well. I think the problem lies in the expectation, not the player.
 
When I think great rebounders they tend to be long, but lean and agile, not bulky. 280 lbs is damn hard to move quickly and changing direction is tough as well. I think the problem lies in the expectation, not the player.

Ewing and Eastern should be good rebounders. Good overall size and athleticism. The thing is some people just have a knack for the ball and where it will bounce off the rim. That is why I am so excited about Tre Williams. He is one of the best rebounders coming in. I can't wait to see what happens when he gets with trainers and starts cutting weight.
 
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When I think great rebounders they tend to be long, but lean and agile, not bulky. 280 lbs is damn hard to move quickly and changing direction is tough as well. I think the problem lies in the expectation, not the player.

pretty much all great rebounders have some bulk to them, I would generally say strong decently athletic with a great motor with good size, guy like Drummond, Jordan, in the NBA or like Swannigan and Delgado in college. Barkley was the round mound or rebound for a reason.
 
Ewing and Eastern should be good rebounders. Good overall size and athleticism. The thing is some people just have a knack for the ball and where it will bounce off the rim. That is why I am so excited about Tre Williams. He is one of the best rebounders coming in. I can't wait to see what happens when he gets with trainers and starts cutting weight.

Disclaimer: this does mean I think Mathias will become a double double waiting to happen this season and that he will suddenly become draftable.....

Mathias is probably the best defensive rebounder Purdue has going by CMP’s and Biggie’s comments last year. Frequently Mathias was getting pushed out of the way by Biggie when rebounding. Some times a player can just sense where the ball will end up based in the arc, trajectory, and spin of the ball.

Again....NOT MAKING ANY CLAIMS MATHIAS WILL SUDDENLY BE ABLE TO OUTREBOIND BIGGIE OR ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL.
 
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Disclaimer: this does mean I think Mathias will become a double double waiting to happen this season and that he will suddenly become draftable.....

Mathias is probably the best defensive rebounder Purdue has going by CMP’s and Biggie’s comments last year. Frequently Mathias was getting pushed out of the way by Biggie when rebounding. Some times a player can just sense where the ball will end up based in the arc, trajectory, and spin of the ball.

Again....NOT MAKING ANY CLAIMS MATHIAS WILL SUDDENLY BE ABLE TO OUTREBOIND BIGGIE OR ANY OTHER INDIVIDUAL.
So you're saying Mathias > Biggie. Gotcha...running to the national board to make fun of you.
 
So you're saying Mathias > Biggie. Gotcha...running to the national board to make fun of you.
Literally just got back from there to correct the dufus that referenced me. Had never been there before and probably won’t be back. It’s just a huge pissing contest with little substance and a whole hell of a lot of IU posters.
 
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Literally just got back from there to correct the dufus that referenced me. Had never been there before and probably won’t be back. It’s just a huge pissing contest with little substance and a whole hell of a lot of IU posters.
There's no place like home...
 
There's no place like home...
The national board has become much worse due to SNU’s never ending trolling. There are good posters there that I like to discuss basketball with, but good discussion tends to get drowned out by the constant trolling.
 
The national board has become much worse due to SNU’s never ending trolling. There are good posters there that I like to discuss basketball with, but good discussion tends to get drowned out by the constant trolling.
Judicious use if the ignore button really cleans it up. There is pretty decent representation by MSU, IU, Minny, Mi, MD and Iowa and I like to hear what they see going on with their teams. Snu is just their to patrol any ref to IU by a Purdue poster and set them straight. I keep him on ignore almost full time.
 
Ewing and Eastern should be good rebounders. Good overall size and athleticism. The thing is some people just have a knack for the ball and where it will bounce off the rim. That is why I am so excited about Tre Williams. He is one of the best rebounders coming in. I can't wait to see what happens when he gets with trainers and starts cutting weight.
Much like Biggie who had an extremely high desire coupled with an inmate understanding of where to go get it. When Williams drops the excess weight he will fit that image. Guys physically capable of going out of their static catch radius to get the ball.
 
Much like Biggie who had an extremely high desire coupled with an inmate understanding of where to go get it. When Williams drops the excess weight he will fit that image. Guys physically capable of going out of their static catch radius to get the ball.
Static catch radius. I'm going to use that one. It perfectly describes the difference between how a guy like Isaac gets rebounds as opposed to a guy who can just go get the ball like Miles Bridges or Jordan Murphy.
 
Static catch radius. I'm going to use that one. It perfectly describes the difference between how a guy like Isaac gets rebounds as opposed to a guy who can just go get the ball like Miles Bridges or Jordan Murphy.

it's like the static catch radius being not near as accurate as the dynamic catch radius
 
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If you take the derivative of the static catch radius function do you get the dynamic catch radius?
Yes, with Y being the court distance and x being the centroid of the mass...weighted by the mass.
 
Yes, with Y being the court distance and x being the centroid of the mass...weighted by the mass.
And the IU trolls stopping by the board are going:

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Static catch radius. I'm going to use that one. It perfectly describes the difference between how a guy like Isaac gets rebounds as opposed to a guy who can just go get the ball like Miles Bridges or Jordan Murphy.
It’s probably not totally fair to Issac but it does convey the difference.
 
Static catch radius. I'm going to use that one. It perfectly describes the difference between how a guy like Isaac gets rebounds as opposed to a guy who can just go get the ball like Miles Bridges or Jordan Murphy.
Isaac just needs to box out his man on defense and grab the rebounds in his “static catch radius” (love it) and he’s doing his job. He’s never going to be like Biggie or Jordan Murphy and I have no problem with that as long as he is keeping his man off the offensive boards. Defensive rebounding is going to have to be a total team effort this season.
 
Isaac just needs to box out his man on defense and grab the rebounds in his “static catch radius” (love it) and he’s doing his job. He’s never going to be like Biggie or Jordan Murphy and I have no problem with that as long as he is keeping his man off the offensive boards. Defensive rebounding is going to have to be a total team effort this season.

It's rebounding by committee this year for the Boilers. Isaac Haas and Vincent Edwards are co-chairs, Jacquil Taylor is vice chair, with Dakota Mathias and Nojel Eastern as special attachés. "Biggie" shoes to fill, but it can be done with effort attitude, and a little good fortune......the Boilers are overdue for that, IMO.

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Ewing and Eastern should be good rebounders. Good overall size and athleticism. The thing is some people just have a knack for the ball and where it will bounce off the rim. That is why I am so excited about Tre Williams. He is one of the best rebounders coming in. I can't wait to see what happens when he gets with trainers and starts cutting weight.
Much like Biggie who had an extremely high desire coupled with an inmate understanding of where to go get it. When Williams drops the excess weight he will fit that image. Guys physically capable of going out of their static catch radius to get the ball.
"inmate"? When was Biggie in jail and how does jail time relate to rebounding.
 
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This will be inaccurate without considering the momentum

The momentum will be the dynamic catch radius multiplied by the ending velocity over that distance, multiplied by the mass with gravity adjustment at that location in comparing the centroid perpendicular distance from the floor in comparison to the opponent's centroids height and mass adjusted for gravity relaive to the point of contact velocity which determines whether the fall is forward towards teh contact or away from contact.
 
The momentum will be the dynamic catch radius multiplied by the ending velocity over that distance, multiplied by the mass with gravity adjustment at that location in comparing the centroid perpendicular distance from the floor in comparison to the opponent's centroids height and mass adjusted for gravity relaive to the point of contact velocity which determines whether the fall is forward towards teh contact or away from contact.
Whatever
 
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it's like the static catch radius being not near as accurate as the dynamic catch radius

You forgot to factor in the exact value of the flux capacitor as it applies to the magnetic strength of the iron content of the rim.
 
I'm confused... That article had absolutely nothing to do with how teachers should be paid. It literally just talked about how technology was bad for kids/teens.
It was simply one example of the challenges presented to teachers... Defending the fact that there are a million variables involved. Just one being tech forced on them when they can't police every kid and still teach.
 
The momentum will be the dynamic catch radius multiplied by the ending velocity over that distance, multiplied by the mass with gravity adjustment at that location in comparing the centroid perpendicular distance from the floor in comparison to the opponent's centroids height and mass adjusted for gravity relaive to the point of contact velocity which determines whether the fall is forward towards teh contact or away from contact.
Did you factor in the modial interaction of magneto-reluctance and capacitive deractance? Or the possibility of sinusoidal repleneration?
 
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It was simply one example of the challenges presented to teachers... Defending the fact that there are a million variables involved. Just one being tech forced on them when they can't police every kid and still teach.
I never said teaching was easy. I asked what teachers raises should be based on. I don't believe there is a clear cut answer.
 
Did you factor in the the modial interaction of magneto-reluctance and capacitive deractance? Or the possibility of sinusoidal repleneration?
Actually, they are a source in the model of the variables within the dynamic catch radius much more than the momentum. I'm aware of those sources of variation, but haven't extracted the degrees of freedom to divide into the sum of squares of the variable to get a mean square number to compare to the error mean square for significance...I just know it is currently hidden inside the model until further extraction and review. ;)
 
Actually, they are a source in the model of the variables within the dynamic catch radius much more than the momentum. I'm aware of those sources of variation, but haven't extracted the degrees of freedom to divide into the sum of squares of the variable to get a mean square number to compare to the error mean square for significance...I just know it is currently hidden inside the model until further extraction and review. ;)

Well, I hope none of our players sprain their ankles trying to improve on these metrics!
 
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