Savion Flagg offered for 2017

[Do Dah Day]

I know a lot of people in Brownsburg.I do not know the specific language that painter used that was offensive. I also know that he was very dismissive of Gordon's desire to major in pharmacy at Purdue, and this also turned off the family. Told him he would not have time to major in pharmacy and also play basketball.

At least he was being honest.

On another note, I was in Brad Stephens office one afternoon. His office was attached to the locker room. There appeared to be a fight breaking out in the locker room and after a minute or two, Brad kind of laughed nervously and excused himself. After a minute, the yelling quieted and Brad came back. It was Hayword and Howard who were yelling. They had a physics problem written all over the blackboard and were arguing over the answer. Brad shrugged and said, "They're competitive at everything."

 

[BoilerFan#35]

I know a lot of people in Brownsburg.I do not know the specific language that painter used that was offensive. I also know that he was very dismissive of Gordon's desire to major in pharmacy at Purdue, and this also turned off the family. Told him he would not have time to major in pharmacy and also play basketball.

I remember Rapheal Davis was thinking about majoring in pharmacy at Purdue but he obviously didn't. Wonder if it was the same situation...

 

[PUBV]

I remember Rapheal Davis was thinking about majoring in pharmacy at Purdue but he obviously didn't. Wonder if it was the same situation...

Well this 86 pharmacy grad can tell you that 99% of basketball recruits ( props to Matt W ) don't have the rocks to handle pharmacy school! And I'd venture to say, after reading the gibberish posted here, 99.999% of this forums posters couldn't handle it either.
Tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic tic

 

[BoilerFan#35]

Well this 86 pharmacy grad can tell you that 99% of basketball recruits ( props to Matt W ) don't have the rocks to handle pharmacy school! And I'd venture to say, after reading the gibberish posted here, 99.999% of this forums posters couldn't handle it either.

Davis graduated from HS with a 4.0 GPA. He was a three time academic all conference(freshmen aren't eligible). It sounds to me like he could of fit in your 1% that could handle pharmacy school.

 

[BoilerBulldog]

At least he was being honest.

On another note, I was in Brad Stephens office one afternoon. His office was attached to the locker room. There appeared to be a fight breaking out in the locker room and after a minute or two, Brad kind of laughed nervously and excused himself. After a minute, the yelling quieted and Brad came back. It was Hayword and Howard who were yelling. They had a physics problem written all over the blackboard and were arguing over the answer. Brad shrugged and said, "They're competitive at everything."

Great story, thanks for sharing. I think Stevens will go down as one of the greatest coaches of all time when his career is over decades from now.

 

[CoBo]

He's Randall's son. We're bringing him in for the mullet and he's got some skills that might translate if we can control his temper.

Ha! Took me a while to get that reference. And I live in Nederland.

CoBo

 

[Do Dah Day]

Davis graduated from HS with a 4.0 GPA. He was a three time academic all conference(freshmen aren't eligible). It sounds to me like he could of fit in your 1% that could handle pharmacy school.

I think it's the "...with basketball" that is key here. I

 

[Dryfly88]

Well this 86 pharmacy grad can tell you that 99% of basketball recruits ( props to Matt W ) don't have the rocks to handle pharmacy school! And I'd venture to say, after reading the gibberish posted here, 99.999% of this forums posters couldn't handle it either.

Exaggerate much?? There are many players that could get a pharmacy degree if that's what they wanted. Certainly more than 1%. You are rightfully proud of your degree, just don't make it more than it is.

I have no idea what CMP said or didn't say to Hayward about pharmacy but PU players in the past have taken on some serious majors and done just fine. Aviation, Engineering, Business and yes, even Pharmacy. Does it take extra discipline and desire? Yes, but many have done it and certainly more than 1% are capable of it.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Well this 86 pharmacy grad can tell you that 99% of basketball recruits ( props to Matt W ) don't have the rocks to handle pharmacy school! And I'd venture to say, after reading the gibberish posted here, 99.999% of this forums posters couldn't handle it either.

Well it's definitely a tough major, but since there's a CVS or Walgreens on every corner, it's not exactly an exclusive club.

 

[pu1985]

FWIW I believe that Matt Waddell was a pharmacy major - so there has been at least one!

 

[MJ-79Boiler]

I'm concerned that this could be the beginning of a trend. And my comments have nothing to do with Flagg. He actually sounds like a fast riser that may be very worthy of an offer. But what does this tell us about Painter's confidence level with Wilkes or Kyle Young? MSU offered Young yesterday and we offer Flagg today. Hmmm? The trend I'm talking about are these plan "B" offers that signal doubt about the recruits we've targeted for years,

Makes sense to me ! Matt is just trying to make sure we get some good quick commitments for 2017, just like he did when he got carsen and biggie, instead of simpson and parsons.

We all know 2017 is loaded with talent - I am sure he would LOVE to get Wilkes, Eastern or Young, or any of the many others, but signaling that he will sign the first good player willing to commit may nudge a top player to commit early if they are REALLY interested in Purdue. More importantly, it starts painting a picture that Purdue will have good talent coming in for 2016/2017 which all the big fish say is important to their commitments (ie Want to go to schools which have a good nucleus coming in.)

In a perfect world, you would want Obiagu, Jackson Jr, & Malik Williams to commit first , . . but they are the type of players who want to see who will be playing around them before committing.

I therefore think it's smart to line up a wing quickly to go with Carsen and Ryan, since Vince and Biggie have entered NBA discussions. That would still leave us 3-5 scholarships, depending on what Biggie and Vince does.

If one or both get to attend the Chicago event and appear to be going, we can start planning on having additional scholarships - if not, hold the rest tightly for BIGs.

 

[PUBV]

FWIW I believe that Matt Waddell was a pharmacy major - so there has been at least one!

That's why I gave him props!

 

[PUBV]

Exaggerate much?? There are many players that could get a pharmacy degree if that's what they wanted. Certainly more than 1%. You are rightfully proud of your degree, just don't make it more than it is.

I have no idea what CMP said or didn't say to Hayward about pharmacy but PU players in the past have taken on some serious majors and done just fine. Aviation, Engineering, Business and yes, even Pharmacy. Does it take extra discipline and desire? Yes, but many have done it and certainly more than 1% are capable of it.

I was hoping that the 2nd part of my post would at least tip off some folks to see that it was done in jest, I've since edited it for the slower ones.

 

[tjreese]

FWIW I believe that Matt Waddell was a pharmacy major - so there has been at least one!

Matt was...went to work at Lilly

 

[tjreese]

Exaggerate much?? There are many players that could get a pharmacy degree if that's what they wanted. Certainly more than 1%. You are rightfully proud of your degree, just don't make it more than it is.

I have no idea what CMP said or didn't say to Hayward about pharmacy but PU players in the past have taken on some serious majors and done just fine. Aviation, Engineering, Business and yes, even Pharmacy. Does it take extra discipline and desire? Yes, but many have done it and certainly more than 1% are capable of it.

It is not that the material is harder or even as hard as engineering and such...it is that there is no room for less than an A and so they have to be at the top of the class. THAT takes discipline and a lot of effort. Purdue is not an easy school and each major can have tough teachers and certain demands that make playing basketball much more difficult to obtain. Imagine talking about tough majors here and some schools graduate people in a couple of years...

It would be interesting to know what Haywood's major at Butler was.

 

[Travisty13]

It is not that the material is harder or even as hard as engineering and such...it is that there is no room for less than an A and so they have to be at the top of the class. THAT takes discipline and a lot of effort. Purdue is not an easy school and each major can have tough teachers and certain demands that make playing basketball much more difficult to obtain. Imagine talking about tough majors here and some schools graduate people in a couple of years...

It would be interesting to know what Haywood's major at Butler was.

Gordon majored in Computer Engineering.

 

[tjreese]

Gordon majored in Computer Engineering.

thanks

 

[Travisty13]

thanks

Yes sir. Not a problem.

 

[Dryfly88]

I was hoping that the 2nd part of my post would at least tip off some folks to see that it was done in jest, I've since edited it for the slower ones.

It is not that the material is harder or even as hard as engineering and such...it is that there is no room for less than an A and so they have to be at the top of the class. THAT takes discipline and a lot of effort. Purdue is not an easy school and each major can have tough teachers and certain demands that make playing basketball much more difficult to obtain. Imagine talking about tough majors here and some schools graduate people in a couple of years...

It would be interesting to know what Haywood's major at Butler was.

He has since edited to say he was just kidding (doubtful).

 

[mathboy]

I majored in Math, with a Computer Science flavor, taking mostly graduate level classes in Comp Sci. I minored in Physics (my original major) and History. I took some pretty tough classes, but I worked about half as hard as my two Pharmacy roommates. I was in awe of their class work load. That is a regorous major at Purdue!

The one roommate I stayed in touch with became an oral surgeon, breezing through Medical School after getting his brains beaten into shape at Purdue Pharmacy.

 

[PU52Chevy]

The "light bulb" has come on for Flagg.....let's hope he see's Purdue as a destination to be part of the family.

We could develop him and Painter loves coaches kids......they seem to get it...the hard love and what it takes for them to learn, raise their game and become young men.

I am hopeful we can pull him from the south...hope C. Edwards is in his ear......

Oh and I have to take this opportunity to say I am so excited to see J. Taylor play next year....love that young man...he is going to do big things.

Boiler Up!

 

[tjreese]

The "light bulb" has come on for Flagg.....let's hope he see's Purdue as a destination to be part of the family.

We could develop him and Painter loves coaches kids......they seem to get it...the hard love and what it takes for them to learn, raise their game and become young men.

I am hopeful we can pull him from the south...hope C. Edwards is in his ear......

Oh and I have to take this opportunity to say I am so excited to see J. Taylor play next year....love that young man...he is going to do big things.

Boiler Up!

He went on, “Carsen Edwards talks to me about Purdue. When I posted that I got a Purdue offer he texted me and he is going to try and get me to go there.” http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1663520-uaa-flagg-moving-onto-the-radar

 

[Inspector100]

..............

Oh and I have to take this opportunity to say I am so excited to see J. Taylor play next year....love that young man...he is going to do big things.

Boiler Up!

Hope you are right about Taylor. But, it is all up to him too improve and play smart.

 

[PU52Chevy]

He went on, “Carsen Edwards talks to me about Purdue. When I posted that I got a Purdue offer he texted me and he is going to try and get me to go there.” http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1663520-uaa-flagg-moving-onto-the-radar

The young men on the team recruit just as hard as the coaches......

I have always thought a good program is just as good as the young men that play in it recruit for it......

The Juniors and Seniors play a vital role in the future of any teams program...volleyball, football, basketball, whatever

Boiler Up and I hope he comes to Purdue.

 

[PUBV]

He has since edited to say he was just kidding (doubtful).

Yowza, no sense of humor at all, you must be a blast at parties!

 

[bonefish1]

Exaggerate much?? There are many players that could get a pharmacy degree if that's what they wanted. Certainly more than 1%. You are rightfully proud of your degree, just don't make it more than it is.

I have no idea what CMP said or didn't say to Hayward about pharmacy but PU players in the past have taken on some serious majors and done just fine. Aviation, Engineering, Business and yes, even Pharmacy. Does it take extra discipline and desire? Yes, but many have done it and certainly more than 1% are capable of it.

"Serious majors"? Let's not get too uppity here. While not every Purdue student, athlete or not, has to be an engineering major to be considered 'serious', every student has to work hard to get a degree.
I didn't get my BS in what you'd probably consider a 'serious' major, but I worked hard, did well, went and got an MBA from a major school (is that 'serious'?) and now probably do better financially than most of the people I knew who were engineering majors.

 

[bonefish1]

It is not that the material is harder or even as hard as engineering and such...it is that there is no room for less than an A and so they have to be at the top of the class. THAT takes discipline and a lot of effort. Purdue is not an easy school and each major can have tough teachers and certain demands that make playing basketball much more difficult to obtain. Imagine talking about tough majors here and some schools graduate people in a couple of years...

It would be interesting to know what Haywood's major at Butler was.

With all due respect, Purdue is as tough as most other B10 schools, as well as the ACC, etc.
Getting a degree from any reputable Univ is an accomplishment and while the Ath Dept certainly provides the resources the athletes need to maintain eligibility, I don't think it's tougher to stay eligible at PU.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

With all due respect, Purdue is as tough as most other B10 schools, as well as the ACC, etc.
Getting a degree from any reputable Univ is an accomplishment and while the Ath Dept certainly provides the resources the athletes need to maintain eligibility, I don't think it's tougher to stay eligible at PU.

I would have to disagree. I know of at least one ACC school that provides better Academic resources to their athletes than we do - LOL.

 

[Do Dah Day]

With all due respect, Purdue is as tough as most other B10 schools, as well as the ACC, etc.
Getting a degree from any reputable Univ is an accomplishment and while the Ath Dept certainly provides the resources the athletes need to maintain eligibility, I don't think it's tougher to stay eligible at PU.

Something to add to this, although it has NOTHING to do with the academic difficulty, is that Purdue does not offer a "General Studies" degree. Many B1G schools do. That means the student doesn't not have to take college algebra ... or whatever class he is especially weak in. This has more impact on football recruiting than basketball, for several reasons that we don't need to go into here. But it does come into play with some recruits.

 

[mathboy]

Something to add to this, although it has NOTHING to do with the academic difficulty, is that Purdue does not offer a "General Studies" degree. Many B1G schools do. That means the student doesn't not have to take college algebra ... or whatever class he is especially weak in. This has more impact on football recruiting than basketball, for several reasons that we don't need to go into here. But it does come into play with some recruits.

Oh no! According to the experts here, a General Studies degree from Ohio State is every bit as tough as a degree in Business Management or Communicatrions Management at Purdue. Sure, Purdue has a few more math classes, but OSU does offer "Basic Counting 101", and "How to use your hands and toes to find the number 20". Didn't Conley take some sort of basketball class where they taught how to look at the score board and tell if you won the game? LOL

This has little to do with the general academic reputation of the University as a whole. However, if you are an athlete, the educational value you receive for your skills may vay by location & team you play for.

 

[Do Dah Day]

Oh no! According to the experts here, a General Studies degree from Ohio State is every bit as tough as a degree in Business Management or Communicatrions Management at Purdue. Sure, Purdue has a few more math classes, but OSU does offer "Basic Counting 101", and "How to use your hands and toes to find the number 20". Didn't Conley take some sort of basketball class where they taught how to look at the score board and tell if you won the game? LOL

This has little to do with the general academic reputation of the University as a whole. However, if you are an athlete, the educational value you receive for your skills may vay by location & team you play for.

Well, Yes ... there have been recruits who have friends attending other schools. They can become somewhat enraged when they learn they have to pass certain classes and their friends don't ..... there is no "advanced sports understanding" major here. and if anyone thinks Kinesiology is an easy major ... well, it is very tough.

 

[tjreese]

With all due respect, Purdue is as tough as most other B10 schools, as well as the ACC, etc.
Getting a degree from any reputable Univ is an accomplishment and while the Ath Dept certainly provides the resources the athletes need to maintain eligibility, I don't think it's tougher to stay eligible at PU.

you lost me? You quoted me for some reason, but your comments had nothing to do with my quote? did you get me mixed up with someone else?

 

[bonefish1]

Something to add to this, although it has NOTHING to do with the academic difficulty, is that Purdue does not offer a "General Studies" degree. Many B1G schools do. That means the student doesn't not have to take college algebra ... or whatever class he is especially weak in. This has more impact on football recruiting than basketball, for several reasons that we don't need to go into here. But it does come into play with some recruits.

I've previously refuted this common urban legend that Purdue doesn't have a 'general studies' major.
What we do have is 'undecided liberal arts'. Probably the same thing....
http://www.admissions.purdue.edu/majors/majors_details.php?MjrCd=UNDECIDELA

Does Duke, Michigan, Stanford, etc have a 'general studies' major? Do you think Purdue is superior academically to those schools?
Trust me, the academic environment at Purdue is highly unlikely the reason a recruit doesn't come to Purdue.

 

[bonefish1]

Oh no! According to the experts here, a General Studies degree from Ohio State is every bit as tough as a degree in Business Management or Communicatrions Management at Purdue. Sure, Purdue has a few more math classes, but OSU does offer "Basic Counting 101", and "How to use your hands and toes to find the number 20". Didn't Conley take some sort of basketball class where they taught how to look at the score board and tell if you won the game? LOL

This has little to do with the general academic reputation of the University as a whole. However, if you are an athlete, the educational value you receive for your skills may vay by location & team you play for.

Ok...Let's be honest for 2 seconds.....If you have a player like Conley, or Biggie or Glenn Robinson, who is a likely 1 n done or 2 n done, do you really give 2 craps about what they're majoring in or whether they get a degree? They are there to prepare for the NBA. If they get drafted after their freshman or soph year, then congrats, that means we probably had a successful year. Whether they graduate is not a concern.

 

[Do Dah Day]

I've previously refuted this common urban legend that Purdue doesn't have a 'general studies' major.
What we do have is 'undecided liberal arts'. Probably the same thing....
http://www.admissions.purdue.edu/majors/majors_details.php?MjrCd=UNDECIDELA

Does Duke, Michigan, Stanford, etc have a 'general studies' major? Do you think Purdue is superior academically to those schools?
Trust me, the academic environment at Purdue is highly unlikely the reason a recruit doesn't come to Purdue.

I don't know the details of what you linked to. It may not fulfill the NCAA requirements for a declared degree program which all student athletes must declare early on in their college career. And must adhere to progressing toward each semester. If you know more about the academics of student-athletes at Purdue, then we know each other very, very well. Be careful getting huffy about things you don't devote large amounts of time to ... or about what someone you don't spend large amounts of time with.

 

[Do Dah Day]

I've previously refuted this common urban legend that Purdue doesn't have a 'general studies' major.
What we do have is 'undecided liberal arts'. Probably the same thing....
http://www.admissions.purdue.edu/majors/majors_details.php?MjrCd=UNDECIDELA

Does Duke, Michigan, Stanford, etc have a 'general studies' major? Do you think Purdue is superior academically to those schools?
Trust me, the academic environment at Purdue is highly unlikely the reason a recruit doesn't come to Purdue.

Now you're putting words in my mouth. I NEVER suggested that Purdue was superior academically. I simply stated a factor that could (or could not) enter into a recruit's (or existing player for that matter), thoughts. Please don't create things to argue with me about that I never said in the first place.

 

[Do Dah Day]

Ok...Let's be honest for 2 seconds.....If you have a player like Conley, or Biggie or Glenn Robinson, who is a likely 1 n done or 2 n done, do you really give 2 craps about what they're majoring in or whether they get a degree? They are there to prepare for the NBA. If they get drafted after their freshman or soph year, then congrats, that means we probably had a successful year. Whether they graduate is not a concern.

The NCAA does ... at least after their first year. and they must show steady progression toward that degree every semester.

 

[Do Dah Day]

I've previously refuted this common urban legend that Purdue doesn't have a 'general studies' major.
What we do have is 'undecided liberal arts'. Probably the same thing....
http://www.admissions.purdue.edu/majors/majors_details.php?MjrCd=UNDECIDELA

Does Duke, Michigan, Stanford, etc have a 'general studies' major? Do you think Purdue is superior academically to those schools?
Trust me, the academic environment at Purdue is highly unlikely the reason a recruit doesn't come to Purdue.

I will ASSURE you of one thing ... I have worked with the course selections of over 150 athletes at Purdue. This "Undecided LA" program has NEVER, NOT ONCE, been suggested or mentioned by any academic advisor.

 

[Do Dah Day]

I don't know the details of what you linked to. It may not fulfill the NCAA requirements for a declared degree program which all student athletes must declare early on in their college career. And must adhere to progressing toward each semester. If you know more about the academics of student-athletes at Purdue, then we know each other very, very well. Be careful getting huffy about things you don't devote large amounts of time to ... or about what someone you don't spend large amounts of time with.

Oh, and by the way ..,, You may have an MBA, but I don't "trust you" regarding this topic.

 

[mathboy]

I've previously refuted this common urban legend that Purdue doesn't have a 'general studies' major.
What we do have is 'undecided liberal arts'. Probably the same thing....
http://www.admissions.purdue.edu/majors/majors_details.php?MjrCd=UNDECIDELA

Does Duke, Michigan, Stanford, etc have a 'general studies' major? Do you think Purdue is superior academically to those schools?
Trust me, the academic environment at Purdue is highly unlikely the reason a recruit doesn't come to Purdue.

You are misreading this, and misusing this in your argument. Yes, you can start as a Undecided LA. You can be admitted as an undecided. You can't graduate as an undecided LA. You must declare a major by the end of your sophmore year, IIRC.

That is exactly what is different, and you are missing this entirely. Many other BIG schools allow students to use a General Studies major for 4 years. That means you don't have to take courses in your major, which funnels you through some of the tough courses in the major.