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Pretty low. I'd say even 10% or less. There might be a chance for a third-party to come in and make a mess of things at that point.
I think Bloomberg is only going to do it if Trump and/or Sanders are the candidates...if it's Hillary versus an establishment-acceptable candidate he probably doesn't.
What do you think the chances are? Don't know if Bern can beat Hillary.
I'm not trying to downplay at as it was still a big win, but Sanders has been leading polls in NH for much longer than he's been "hyped up" as Iowa approached. Sanders had double-digit leads in NH polls going back to September.
I think a lot of people are portraying it as he came out of nowhere to win this state, when in fact he's been pretty solid there all along.
But he should still get credit for the margin of victory, absolutely.
That being said, this was one of his "friendly" states - the question is can it work in the bigger, more-diverse states.
If Bloomberg gets in the race, he will take a bunch of votes from Bernie and the Dems will have no chance.I think Bloomberg is only going to do it if Trump and/or Sanders are the candidates...if it's Hillary versus an establishment-acceptable candidate he probably doesn't.
I know that's what you hope.If Bloomberg gets in the race, he will take a bunch of votes from Bernie and the Dems will have no chance.
And you hope that Bloomberg doesn't get in the race...I know that's what you hope.
He could make it very interesting.If Bloomberg gets in the race, he will take a bunch of votes from Bernie and the Dems will have no chance.
Not really because I think it ends up just like Perot. The Republicans who can't stand Trump or Cruz are as prone to vote Bloomberg as stay home...all dems will vote for Sanders. It will certainly lessen the mandate though.And you hope that Bloomberg doesn't get in the race...
Not really because I think it ends up just like Perot. The Republicans who can't stand Trump or Cruz are as prone to vote Bloomberg as stay home...all dems will vote for Sanders. It will certainly lessen the mandate though.
This is very optimistic. If Sanders doesn't win the nomination, I think a majority of the Sanders crowd are likely to stay at home, unless of course Sanders decides to run as a third party candidate himself. I wouldn't put it past him to do just that.Not really because I think it ends up just like Perot. The Republicans who can't stand Trump or Cruz are as prone to vote Bloomberg as stay home...all dems will vote for Sanders. It will certainly lessen the mandate though.
Does not follow. No, not all Democrats would vote for Sanders for exactly the reason you pointed out.Yes all dems would...Sure but again every study shows Perot took roughly equal votes from both sides and mostly among independents...same with Bloomberg. And democrats have an added focus that Republicans have both houses of Congress.
... unless of course Sanders decides to run as a third party candidate himself. I wouldn't put it past him to do just that.
Actually most people do end up pulling the lever for one side or the other most every time and the same side each time. Folks who are independents still end up lining up on one side or the other. And yes having one party in control of all three parts is yet another reason why folks will vote to avoid that outcome particularly when your side is the one that's on the outside if you throw your vote away on a third party. But feel free Nov of next year to gloat if Bloomberg runs and the Republican wins...I don't see it happening because dems aren't going to vote for him. Most reps won't either, but a few will and some independents will otherwise he will fall somewhere between Nader and Perot in percentages with no real harm to Sanders. If Sanders loses it will be because of his inability to get folks past his socialism or atheism or foreign policy weaknesses not because of BloombergDoes not follow. No, not all Democrats would vote for Sanders for exactly the reason you pointed out.
And it doesn't matter one bit that they have the added incentive to get the R out of Congress. Not everyone just pulls the R or D lever. Some will vote for Bloomberg and then their D congressman to the same effect.
"Objection your honor, calls for speculation. Qazplm cannot possibly know the voting intentions of every one of 72 million registered Democrats in the event of a hypothetical run by a left-libertarian candidate."
Actually most people do end up pulling the lever for one side or the other most every time and the same side each time. Folks who are independents still end up lining up on one side or the other. And yes having one party in control of all three parts is yet another reason why folks will vote to avoid that outcome particularly when your side is the one that's on the outside if you throw your vote away on a third party. But feel free Nov of next year to gloat if Bloomberg runs and the Republican wins...I don't see it happening because dems aren't going to vote for him. Most reps won't either, but a few will and some independents will otherwise he will fall somewhere between Nader and Perot in percentages with no real harm to Sanders. If Sanders loses it will be because of his inability to get folks past his socialism or atheism or foreign policy weaknesses not because of Bloomberg
He ran in VT as an "I" when he didn't get nominated originally. He still caucused with the Ds.If Sanders can't win the democratic nomination, he stands no chance in the general election as an independent, and I'm pretty sure he knows that. He's given no indication that he would do that, thus I think this is just a BS statement.
You don't know what would happen if Bloomberg ran. You have an opinion. I don't know, but at least I'm willing to admit it, and I'm smart enough not to say something as ridiculous as "all Democrats would vote for Sanders." "Most people" and "most" is not what you said. You said "all" and doubled down on it. That's absurd. Choose your words better. Otherwise, I haven't mentioned anything else you're trying to argue here. Take it up with SD.
Yawn, if you want to focus on the word all feel free. How about this the vast vast vast majority of actual registered democrats would vote for Sanders vice bloomberg. The tiny percentage of folks who would not is small enough that yes all is a fine word that describes the magnitude of the current environment in the Dem party.
You need to look at the demographics in VT vs those in the country. There's a greater volume of overall blue votes to spread and a whole lot of white folks in VT and not much else. He'd have no chance of an independent victory nationally. I think you're hoping it happens, but it won't.He ran in VT as an "I" when he didn't get nominated originally. He still caucused with the Ds.
lol come back when you aren't so clearly in a snit.And you know that... How? You don't.
You should heed your own advice.lol come back when you aren't so clearly in a snit.
when I get into a snit I will til then I will laugh at the attempt to focus on picking nits instead of actual points.You should heed your own advice.
You said it twice, and once after already being called on it. It appears to be what you think. Either that or your ego is so big you can't even admit poor choice of words. We all know which is true here. You've never been wrong in your life, at least not that you'll admit.when I get into a snit I will til then I will laugh at the attempt to focus on picking nits instead of actual points.
feel better? Ya got to play the ego know it all card while simultaneously playing the I'm above it all card. If you'd mentioned Hitler you could have the internet trifecta.You said it twice, and once after already being called on it. It appears to be what you think. Either that or your ego is so big you can't even admit poor choice of words. We all know which is true here. You've never been wrong in your life, at least not that you'll admit.
I think Bloomberg would take a non-trivial amount of votes from both sides if Sanders wins the nomination, and I believe it would impact the outcome of the election. It stands to reason that the Democrats would win in that case, since there are more of them.
But at no point would "all" Democrats vote for Sanders.
Choose your words properly and you wouldn't have one bit of an argument from me.
Still not wrong I see,feel better? Ya got to play the ego know it all card while simultaneously playing the I'm above it all card. If you'd mentioned Hitler you could have the internet trifecta.
Lol let me know when you get it out of your system.Still not wrong I see,
Still not wrong, though!Lol let me know when you get it out of your system.
Here let me reply again so you can keep saying it lolStill not wrong, though!
No thanks, done wallowing in your mud. I should've learned after so long that the big one will happen before you ever demonstrate even the slightest bit of humility.Here let me reply again so you can keep saying it lol
aww...you couldn't help one last one could ya? Bless your heart.No thanks, done wallowing in your mud. I should've learned after so long that the big one will happen before you ever demonstrate even the slightest bit of humility.
Moving on. Did I characterize your sentiment properly? Thoughts on the R debate?
Likewise.aww...you couldn't help one last one could ya? Bless your heart.