R's, Ind's & Libertarians -- who is your lead person Pre-Debate?

[tjreese]

The Trump hate is strong. Haley said it best, he is the most unpopular politician in America, and that hate also drives people to vote....at least did when T lost.

Luckily for Trump, if he continues, he would be running against Biden, not only is Biden corrupt, but now America also knows what a bad job he does.....no hiding from that now.

Was there any question on Biden before he got the votes he did? This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. That hate vote...whatever it was, also had Trump with more than any president candidate and so the question was and is...why so many votes registered? I suspect it has a lot more to do with the voting circumstances than a hate vote, but perhaps I hold as low as it may be, a higher regard for voters. We know the deliberate attempt to hang Trump before his presidency. We know the people involved that deliberately lied. Is there any more info needed to erase any desire for Biden? BTW do we know who killed Epstein or who leaked the info from the SCOTUS on rightfully returning this to the states. What fascination could anyone have in wanting a second sentence for the country with more Biden?

 

[Boiler Buck]

What fascination could anyone have in wanting a second sentence for the country with more Biden?

I can't imagine?? He has cost the poor and middle class thousand$$.

 

[tjreese]

Me neither. I think I had 2-3 non Trump guys I liked in his first election....never got going. We will see? Alot to learn about all the non D candidates. It's early.

Right now could live with DeSantis, Haley VR, Scott and even Burgum. Only ones I can't back are T, Pence & Christie....would in a general against Biden though. Biden has cost me thousand$$.

The thousands he has cost you pales with the overall cost for the future. Unlike those that seek reparations from someone that didn't do anything to reward someone that wasn't affected, I am affected by those that actually voted for Biden and his circus. If reparations were ever legitimate, no stronger, direct case can be made than rewarding those that didn't vote for Biden by those that did.

 

[TeddyValentineDidNothingWrong]

Vivek has the best ideas by far. I haven't watched the debate yet, but I've listened to him talk a lot and have very little I don't like on what he'd do.

He has great ideas, like pumping up a failed alzheimers drug to defraud patients and investors while making millions.

 

[BNIBoiler]

Not a lot of people here watch alot of Fox except BNI apparently.

Thanks for the info tho.

Faux News is the most watched news network. It's funny how the right wingers on this site don't admit that they watch them.

 

[BNIBoiler]

Surprised you don’t like him. Christie compared him to Obummer.

Christie made reference to the Swamy copying a line from Obama's 2000s DNC speech about being "young and skinny".

 

[Boiler Buck]

Faux News is the most watched news network. It's funny how the right wingers on this site don't admit that they watch them.

I catch 10-15 minutes of there AM show on rare occasion.....but not sure many people watch TV news of any kind these days??? When you consider 350 million people here and what does Fox get? Guess....3.5 million???
1% of population.....whoopee.

 

[BNIBoiler]

I catch 10-15 minutes of there AM show on rare occasion.....but not sure many people watch TV news of any kind these days??? When you consider 350 million people here and what does Fox get? Guess....3.5 million???
1% of population.....whoopee.

Plus Faux News is on in a lot of truck stops.

 

[Boiler Buck]

Plus Faux News is on in a lot of truck stops.

That's nice for the truck driver. Is that what you do for a living?

 

[herrli]

DeSantis dodged like 4 questions, even after the moderators pushed him again to answer. He spent the rest of his time taking hardline positions on hot button Republican issues.

How many times in the thread are you going to repeat you’re an independent? Are you trying to convince yourself?

Funny @BuilderBob6 , you never answer my questions and post daily multiple times how much you hate Trump, Trying to convince yourself? You are the absolute image of a hypocrite.

 

[herrli]

DeSantis is another Chump wanna be. I keep saying that the best chance to restore the republicans to respectability and possibly win the popular vote since 2004 is a ticket consisting of any 2 combination of Pence/Christie/Haley/Cheney. If Haley does not make the cut, then she will be next Sec of State. She seems to be good at foreign policy. Most Americans are not going to go through another 4 year train wreck of Chump.

What's wrong with Christie, Pence, or Cheney? Too much anti-MAGA cult? That's why the repubs won't win in 2024 if they can't cut loose Chump. If Chump does win, he will only win the Electoral College like in 2016. Which obviously ill be good enough.

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Did you get held back for third grade again this semester?

 

[BNIBoiler]

That's nice for the truck driver. Is that what you do for a living?

No, but used to travel for work. Also, truck drivers have called into my radio show and said that the truck stops have Faux News on.

 

[Boilermaker03]

Of course you like him. the Swamy is nothing more than a Chump wanna be.

In other words, someone that's actually going to do things for the benefit of everyone.

 

[Riveting-]

At least someone put to rest European countries weren't pulling their weight on helping Ukraine.

Many of them aren't. What makes you and Bob think they are?

The Euro countries are the ones actually threatened by Russian, at least in theory, so they should be shelling out a lot more collectively than the US. Right?

 

[Riveting-]

What's wrong with Christie, Pence, or Cheney? Too much anti-MAGA cult? That's why the repubs won't win in 2024 if they can't cut loose Chump. If Chump does win, he will only win the Electoral College like in 2016. Which obviously ill be good enough.

Of course it will be good enough. The popular vote is meaningless in our system. If the election were based on popular vote, the campaigns would be vastly different.

 

[Boilermaker03]

DeSantis is another Chump wanna be. I keep saying that the best chance to restore the republicans to respectability and possibly win the popular vote since 2004 is a ticket consisting of any 2 combination of Pence/Christie/Haley/Cheney. If Haley does not make the cut, then she will be next Sec of State. She seems to be good at foreign policy. Most Americans are not going to go through another 4 year train wreck of Chump.

Those are 4 of the worst!

 

[Boilermaker03]

What's wrong with Christie, Pence, or Cheney? Too much anti-MAGA cult? That's why the repubs won't win in 2024 if they can't cut loose Chump. If Chump does win, he will only win the Electoral College like in 2016. Which obviously ill be good enough.

Establishment losers. We need new blood.

 

[BNIBoiler]

Of course it will be good enough. The popular vote is meaningless in our system. If the election were based on popular vote, the campaigns would be vastly different.

May have been a good idea in 1787. But now, I think the electoral college is antiquated.

 

[Boiler Buck]

May have been a good idea in 1787. But now, I think the electoral college is antiquated.

Electoral college is constitutional.
I believe you and Bob said T was trying to "circumvent our constitution" with the so called "insurrection."

Now here you are calling that same constitution, antiquated when it comes to the electoral college...and likely want to change it. Democrats even went so far as to try to circumvent the electoral college vote when Trump won via a video encouraging so called "hero electors" to change their vote.....perhaps you posted that video here back then.

Hmmm.... interesting. lol

Celebrities beg Republican electors: Don't vote Trump

A group of celebrities beg Republican electors to not vote for Trump - but do they have any sway?

www.bbc.com

 

[herrli]

May have been a good idea in 1787. But now, I think the electoral college is antiquated.

Of course you do! What else don't you like? You can always find a new country no one will stop you from migrating

 

[TheGunner]

Horrible debate moderated by Faux News. They’ve done much better in the past. DeSantis did horrible as I expected. Pence and Christie did well as I expected. Scott was a no show. Haley held her own. The Swamy is irritating.

@BNI was waiting for a candidate to offer any and all of the following:

Free college debt
Free future college
Reparations
Universal Basic Income
Free Healthcare for All
Free homes for the homeless (which will be everyone once they are free)
3 day work week (only for those stupid enough to work)
100% pay raise for anyone working.
All public held companies must give 99% profits to the Federal government
And 200,000 more IRS agents to find anyone with money so that money can be taken by the federal government.

for some reason he was not satisfied last night😥

 

[Boilermaker03]

May have been a good idea in 1787. But now, I think the electoral college is antiquated.

No it isn't dummy.

 

[BNIBoiler]

No it isn't dummy.

There y’all go again. So why am I a dummy for expressing an honest opinion about a topic?

 

[Boilermaker03]

There y’all go again. So why am I a dummy for expressing an honest opinion about a topic?

Because that's literally a massively stupid stance and show you have no idea what the electoral college is for. I don't name call lightly, but when it comes to something so important as the electoral college, it's important to know why it's there.

 

[Boiler Buck]

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44% won't cut it.

Shows had very bad BOTH these candidates are.
Trump toxic to many independents.
Biden toxic to everyone that pays their bills and works for a living.

50-50 odds now if it is between these 2 old codgers. Both so revolting 70-75% of population doesn't want that matchup.

 

[herrli]

There y’all go again. So why am I a dummy for expressing an honest opinion about a topic?

Because it is a really dumb opinion

 

[BNIBoiler]

Because that's literally a massively stupid stance and show you have no idea what the electoral college is for. I don't name call lightly, but when it comes to something so important as the electoral college, it's important to know why it's there.

You call me dumb for a legit and honest stance on a topic without saying why we need the Electoral College. So why do we need the Electoral College in 2023?

 

[herrli]

You call me dumb for a legit and honest stance on a topic without saying why we need the Electoral College. So why do we need the Electoral College in 2023?

Why do we need elections at all? You seriously come across with the mentality of a 3rd grader. I don't like a law so why do we need it? Why do we have speed limits?

 

[tjreese]

Why do we need elections at all? You seriously come across with the mentality of a 3rd grader. I don't like a law so why do we need it? Why do we have speed limits?

In a sense, it can be thought of to protect minorities, but unrelated to skin color. They already altered things in a similar fashion when the 17 amendment was adopted. This was a huge shift in the power of the senate towards inner city as well. Changing the 17th would also help better representation across many miles to further represent those outside the inner city...or minorities...

 

[BNIBoiler]

Why do we need elections at all? You seriously come across with the mentality of a 3rd grader. I don't like a law so why do we need it? Why do we have speed limits?

So give me a legit reason to have the Electoral College in 2023.

 

[Boiler Buck]

You call me dumb for a legit and honest stance on a topic without saying why we need the Electoral College. So why do we need the Electoral College in 2023?

Do you hate your state? Needed because the electoral college makes ALL states relevant. Without it, NO Presidential candidate would ever campaign in Indiana again.

 

[Riveting-]

So give me a legit reason to have the Electoral College in 2023.

There is no legit reason to have it in 2023.

However, there is a very good reason to have it in 2024.

 

[Boilermaker03]

You call me dumb for a legit and honest stance on a topic without saying why we need the Electoral College. So why do we need the Electoral College in 2023?

Better question. What was the electoral college originally for?

 

[SIBoiler2]

You call me dumb for a legit and honest stance on a topic without saying why we need the Electoral College. So why do we need the Electoral College in 2023?

Because without it all elections would be decided by CA, NY, and major metro areas which have shown they can't govern themselves effectively. Definitely want them telling rural America how to live.

 

[herrli]

So give me a legit reason to have the Electoral College in 2023.

Because it is the way our country was founded. Give me a legit reason not to? Do a lot more thinking about it than you usually do before you post because you obviously have limited skills in understanding the United States beyond I am opressed by something, that you cry daily. Go for it man! We are all anxiously awaiting your 3rd grade take on this.

 

[BNIBoiler]

Because without it all elections would be decided by CA, NY, and major metro areas which have shown they can't govern themselves effectively. Definitely want them telling rural America how to live.

You don’t know that for sure.

 

[Boilermaker03]

You don’t know that for sure.

Yes we do. It's also a form of anti cheat. If you're not just going popular vote, it's harder to know where you need to cheat to win. If there's no electoral college, all you have to do is go to every city and flood it with fraudulent votes. Who'd check them? The Democratic mayor? GTFOH.

 

[herrli]

Yes we do. It's also a form of anti cheat. If you're not just going popular vote, it's harder to know where you need to cheat to win. If there's no electoral college, all you have to do is go to every city and flood it with fraudulent votes. Who'd check them? The Democratic mayor? GTFOH.

Reparations! BNI has no clue what he is talking about on any real subject.

 

[BNIBoiler]

Yes we do. It's also a form of anti cheat. If you're not just going popular vote, it's harder to know where you need to cheat to win. If there's no electoral college, all you have to do is go to every city and flood it with fraudulent votes. Who'd check them? The Democratic mayor? GTFOH.

States do fine without any sort of Electoral College. Most have metro areas and no problems reaching the rural areas.

 

[herrli]

You don’t know that for sure.

Seriously, every time you post you get dumber than the one before