Purdue at Illinois: MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD

[pubill]

I blame Painter, and I'm in his corner for using his same sub pattern and not looking more at Waddel and others when PU had huge leads in games won. Myles and Heide are not getting the job done though Painter keeps playing them in the same spot every game, Harris plays better than either (IMO) and should be first off the bench. Burgess will be serviceable the next couple of years, but he's not good enough to get major minutes.

When the season began, I thought this team was at least an elite 8 team, but now I'll be happy with a Sweet 16. And why are there no plays for Caleb on offense?

Someone off the bench has to score consistently and no one so far has done that.

No plays for Caleb-because he is extremely limited in what he can do offensively.

 

[Booty Maximus]

Yeah figured he would. I expect Illinois to hit 40% from 3 tonight too 😂

Only 37%! Illini are unbeaten when they make > 33%

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

Yes to both probably yeah

I'll go a step further and suggest either might have been enough...

Smith - 40 minutes
TKR - 35 minutes

It's a balancing act for Painter for sure......Loyer had 29.

Hard to quantify mental fatigue as well. Smith's shots down the stretch were primarily off being short - that's usually one of the signs of fatigue.....now, with experience, there's ways to play through that, but it aint easy. Smith gave it all he had last night - just wasn't enough in a game where he came tantalizingly close to the school's second triple double performance.

In hindsight (which is usually 20/20 or better), maybe you let Cox run the show for a few minutes with TKR, although he doesn't have nearly the chemistry experience as Braden Smith with him.....but it might have worked better than TKR on the bench. Can't worry about it now.

Credit Illinois for really running Loyer off of a lot of sets.....still encouraged with the effort last night IF the guys don't hang their heads after wilting in the last two minutes. Heide's contribution didn't show up in the box score, but he made a difference on the defensive end when he wasn't getting taken to Whistle City.

 

[Gman544]

The issue was Illinois had five guys who could score and get their own shots. All five in double digits, little from their bench. But sharing the scoring load and activity to get those scores keeps everyone fresher. Most of Purdue's load was just two guys with a dash of Loyer. Purdue's two were worn out, Illinois was fresher with five guys sharing the load.

 

[Chi-Boiler]

Only 37%! Illini are unbeaten when they make > 33%

Painter alluded it to this in his postgame presser. Illinois is a dangerous team because of how many 3s they shoot. They didn't make a great percentage last night as a whole, but they made them when it counted down the stretch.

 

[Schnelk]

Only 37%! Illini are unbeaten when they make > 33%

How many T's have been called this season for hanging on the rim? Colvin even looked down to not land on anybody. Pure homer call.

 

[Gman544]

Painter alluded it to this in his postgame presser. Illinois is a dangerous team because of how many 3s they shoot. They didn't make a great percentage last night as a whole, but they made them when it counted down the stretch.

I thought they were in a good spot at halftime being down two shooting so poorly from three. The law of averages played in their favor at crunch time.

 

[RossMackey]

To be fair, he definitely hit Loyer's hand. But refs didn't miss a bunch of shots in the last two minutes.

Exactly— shooters will regularly get this call.

Illini operated pretty much hacked Purdue with impunity when they were on defense, but got multiple phantom calls on Furst and especially Heide when they were on offense…

Purdue failed to make them pay for their obsession with chucking bad threes early, and had nothing left in the tank to respond when those prayers began getting answered.

 

[Booty Maximus]

How many T's have been called this season for hanging on the rim? Colvin even looked down to not land on anybody. Pure homer call.

Not sure what that has to do with Illinois 3 point shooting?

It was probably the second worst call of the game. But Illinois missed the FT so had absolutely no impact on the outcome.

BTW, Purdue fans crying about officiating has to be one of the most hilarious things I've seen in a while. The Loser's Lament....

 

[RossMackey]

Not sure what that has to do with Illinois 3 point shooting?

It was probably the second worst call of the game. But Illinois missed the FT so had absolutely no impact on the outcome.

BTW, Purdue fans crying about officiating has to be one of the most hilarious things I've seen in a while. The Loser's Lament....

You clearly aren’t familiar with any Featherhead message boards.

 

[Chi-Boiler]

Not sure what that has to do with Illinois 3 point shooting?

It was probably the second worst call of the game. But Illinois missed the FT so had absolutely no impact on the outcome.

BTW, Purdue fans crying about officiating has to be one of the most hilarious things I've seen in a while. The Loser's Lament....

Easy to say when you win. Personally, I thought there were equal bad calls or missed calls both ways. Grand scheme of things, didn't affect the outcome.

The biggest call against Purdue that I didn't like was Heide's 5th. I didn't see a foul. And then he wasn't on the floor to switch on KJ when he hit the big shot. Furst was and he can't close out as well.

2nd biggest call was the travel on Burgess. Any name player and that doesn't get called. I don't think it was a travel in 2025 period.