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good grief, you're a d*ck.

Mizzou wasn't admitted because of their academics. You cannot refute that, so you try to play the "gotcha" games.
Name calling only weakens your already non-existent argument. Academics was, at best, an extremely minor issue. Mizzou couldn’t and wouldn’t deliver new eyeballs, which is why they weren’t even considered for membership. Reviewing Delany’s track record, as you’ve been repeatedly shown, is conclusive evidence of this. You look Foolish trying to refute this, and it’s obvious you don’t understand how this process has worked for some time. Just stop.
 
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You’re way off base. Michigan state has way too much talent in the area to stay down for long. I can’t believe there are people like you who are like “yeah, I want the 2021 schedule, but instead of Illinois I want to play Florida state so that 5-7 will be a really good year. But hey.. at least more money for the conference.”
You don't seem to get it. The NCAA is a dead man walking, thanks to NIL. So that means in the future it will be up to the big conferences to manage the national championship. The SEC is already aligning itself as the the de facto championship conference. If the Big Ten doesn't defend that by adding more championship caliber teams, forget about Ohio St and Michigan hanging around.

I'm guessing there was a guy like you, as a fan of the Big 12 back in the 90's, who thought the same way. He never would have guessed that by not expanding Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Texas would all leave. Now the mediocre programs are left holding the bag.

This Purdue football program will either find a very good leader and become a very good program, or it will linger in mediocrity forever. Adding good teams to the conference won't change that.

And BTW, Michigan St will never recruit like Michigan or Ohio State. That's a fact.
 
You don't seem to get it. The NCAA is a dead man walking, thanks to NIL. So that means in the future it will be up to the big conferences to manage the national championship. The SEC is already aligning itself as the the de facto championship conference. If the Big Ten doesn't defend that by adding more championship caliber teams, forget about Ohio St and Michigan hanging around.

I'm guessing there was a guy like you, as a fan of the Big 12 back in the 90's, who thought the same way. He never would have guessed that by not expanding Nebraska, Oklahoma, and Texas would all leave. Now the mediocre programs are left holding the bag.

This Purdue football program will either find a very good leader and become a very good program, or it will linger in mediocrity forever. Adding good teams to the conference won't change that.

And BTW, Michigan St will never recruit like Michigan or Ohio State. That's a fact.
No you don’t get it! National championship?? I want Purdue to get to 6-6.. we have a conference right now that’s plenty strong enough. I’d rather add schools like kansas instead of fsu IF we don’t lose a power team.

my main priority is Purdue’s stature in a conference that’s strong enough NOT Purdue being a laughing stock in a conference that’s harder than it needs to be for the sake of brownie points
 
But then pat.. if I was doing the scheduling for Purdue, instead of Jack plummer having to make his first start against TCU like we are Clemson or Alabama, he’d have been able to get comfortable against Miami Ohio
 
But then pat.. if I was doing the scheduling for Purdue, instead of Jack plummer having to make his first start against TCU like we are Clemson or Alabama, he’d have been able to get comfortable against
Name calling only weakens your already non-existent argument. Academics was, at best, an e trembly minor issue. Mizzou couldn’t and wouldn’t deliver new eyeballs, which is why they weren’t even considered for membership. Reviewing Delany’s track record, as you’ve been repeatedly shown, is conclusive evidence of this. You look Foolish trying to refute this, and it’s obvious you don’t understand how this process has worked for some time. Just stop.
i really liked the last round of expansion. In Nebraska you get a name that’s past it’s prime, and you see Purdue’s record there. In Rutgers and Maryland you get a ton of new eyeballs following programs that Purdue can stay ahead if Purdue is on their game
 
No you don’t get it! National championship?? I want Purdue to get to 6-6.. we have a conference right now that’s plenty strong enough. I’d rather add schools like kansas instead of fsu IF we don’t lose a power team.

my main priority is Purdue’s stature in a conference that’s strong enough NOT Purdue being a laughing stock in a conference that’s harder than it needs to be for the sake of brownie points
Where did I say national championship for Purdue? I didn't...

You're so hyperactive with your posts that you don't really read others...
 
No you don’t get it! National championship?? I want Purdue to get to 6-6.. we have a conference right now that’s plenty strong enough. I’d rather add schools like kansas instead of fsu IF we don’t lose a power team.

my main priority is Purdue’s stature in a conference that’s strong enough NOT Purdue being a laughing stock in a conference that’s harder than it needs to be for the sake of brownie points
The lie that programs like OSU are selling to programs like Purdue is that we are all in this together as equals in this pursuit for the treasure. That what is good for them is also good for the rest of us. But when it comes down to it, the big dogs in the conference will always be two steps ahead, no matter how much trickles down. And the more big dogs you let in the less that trickles down parlays into success for those nearer to the bottom. We can sit and watch replays on our huge jumbo tron, enjoy the LED lights, take pride in the new multi-million dollar facilities (that are amazing yet just barely good enough to keep pace for a few years), and watch helplessly as the talent gap continues to widen - thanks new transfer rules and NIL.

I believe, with where this is all headed, it is better for schools like Purdue to compete against like-minded peers than to become cannon fodder in a minor league system. With so much at stake, let's band together with the likes of MSU, Iowa, Northwestern, Indiana, etc., and do what is in our best interests, not just to serve OSU. We have the numbers. Even if that means adding a school like Iowa St. as opposed to USC.
 
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The lie that programs like OSU are selling to programs like Purdue is that we are all in this together as equals in this pursuit for the treasure. That what is good for them is also good for the rest of us. But when it comes down to it, the big dogs in the conference will always be two steps ahead, no matter how much trickles down. And the more big dogs you let in the less that trickles down parlays into success for those nearer to the bottom. We can sit and watch replays on our huge jumbo tron, enjoy the LED lights, take pride in the new multi-million dollar facilities (that are amazing yet just barely good enough to keep pace for a few years), and watch helplessly as the talent gap continues to widen - thanks new transfer rules and NIL.

I believe, with where this is all headed, it is better for schools like Purdue to compete against like-minded peers than to become cannon fodder in a minor league system. With so much at stake, let's band together with the likes of MSU, Iowa, Northwestern, Indiana, etc., and do what is in our best interests, not just to serve OSU. We have the numbers. Even if that means adding a school like Iowa St. as opposed to USC.
And watch the money disappear...
 
Yes. A Big 10 without USC or FSU would be utterly destitute because we aren't keeping up with the SEC Joneses. I wonder if we could even afford to keep the lights on. :rolleyes:
I'm responding to your comment about Ohio St. And who the hell is going to pay in a conference without Ohio St or Michigan? No one.

And yeah, it sure sucks watching Purdue upset Ohio St...

Are you one of those fans who was glad to see Purdue no longer play Notre Dame?
 
Yes. A Big 10 without USC would be destitute because we aren't keeping up with the SEC Joneses. I wonder if we could even afford to keep the lights on. :rolleyes:
And we can look down on the Big12, but I'd take a long look at a peer school like ISU, who has been to a bowl game 4 straight seasons and just recently played in a P5 championship game. That sounds like a lot of fun to me.
 
The lie that programs like OSU are selling to programs like Purdue is that we are all in this together as equals in this pursuit for the treasure. That what is good for them is also good for the rest of us. But when it comes down to it, the big dogs in the conference will always be two steps ahead, no matter how much trickles down. And the more big dogs you let in the less that trickles down parlays into success for those nearer to the bottom. We can sit and watch replays on our huge jumbo tron, enjoy the LED lights, take pride in the new multi-million dollar facilities (that are amazing yet just barely good enough to keep pace for a few years), and watch helplessly as the talent gap continues to widen - thanks new transfer rules and NIL.

I believe, with where this is all headed, it is better for schools like Purdue to compete against like-minded peers than to become cannon fodder in a minor league system. With so much at stake, let's band together with the likes of MSU, Iowa, Northwestern, Indiana, etc., and do what is in our best interests, not just to serve OSU. We have the numbers. Even if that means adding a school like Iowa St. as opposed to USC.
Exactly.. more people should play chess … pat thinks we are gonna be counting one eyed willys treasure.. but Ohio state is the fratellis …

ask big 12 fans how “what’s good for Texas is good for us” worked out
 
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Where did I say national championship for Purdue? I didn't...

You're so hyperactive with your posts that you don't really read others...
That you’d even put it in the post shows that your mind isn’t on “how does Purdue get a better deal for Purdue
 
I'm responding to your comment about Ohio St. And who the hell is going to pay in a conference without Ohio St or Michigan? No one.

And yeah, it sure sucks watching Purdue upset Ohio St...

Are you one of those fans who was glad to see Purdue no longer play Notre Dame?
Again with the hyperbole and false dichotomy. No it doesn't "suck" to upset OSU or ND. But over the long haul we lose a lot more to those teams than we win. The cost for adding more teams like them to our schedule outweighs the benefit. But maybe you are a fan that doesn't sit through the losses or mind turning the page to basketball in October.

My scenario was simply for schools like Purdue to do what is best for them, not just what is best for OSU and their national championship glide path. I'm happy to keep the conference together, but only on terms that work for the "little 10". If OSU don't like it and want to bolt for the SEC or minor leagues, then so be it. Let's not underestimate the strength and huge fan bases that would remain in the conference or what currently exists without any changes or additions.

Your comparison to the MAC was disingenuous. A conference filled with the state flagship programs spanning half the country is not and will never be the MAC. It will make plenty of money to operate with or without certain schools or how many seats it has at the CFP table. For most Big Ten fans, it's about history, tradition, school pride... and winning games. An 8-4 Purdue team is a better situation for all of those things than a 4-8 Purdue team regardless of whether the schedule consists of OSU, ND, USC, and Florida St or Iowa, Indiana, Northwestern, and MSU.
 
My scenario with pat wasnt “well say MICHIGAN AND OHIO STATE LEAVE, we shouldn’t add Florida state.”

my scenario was .. If they stay it’s beyond moronic to add FSU if you ever want to see Purdue compete for shit
The B1G needs to add the best football schools it can, or the SEC will skim the cream (Ohio State, Michigan, etc) off the B1G, and turn into the English Premier League of college football, while the remaining B1G schools will be relegated to second division.
 
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The B1G needs to add the best football schools it can, or the SEC will skim the cream (Ohio State, Michigan, etc) off the B1G, and turn into the English Premier League of college football, while the remaining B1G schools will be relegated to second division.
I’m adding the best they can we become the doormat. Wanna watch a 4-8 Purdue team in a good season?
 
If the B1G becomes a second tier league, all sports programs will suffer.
Again.. not having FSU and other mega powers added to our league doesn’t make us the big 12.

as someone else said, your ilk is naively cheering on what’s good for Ohio state as though you’ll be sitting at the table counting the treasure.

ask what’s left of the big 12 about that.
 
Again.. not having FSU and other mega powers added to our league doesn’t make us the big 12.

as someone else said, your ilk is naively cheering on what’s good for Ohio state as though you’ll be sitting at the table counting the treasure.

ask what’s left of the big 12 about that.
If the B1G doesn’t add the best football programs it can, then the SEC will come for OSU, Michigan, etc.

Then the B1G will be a second tier/minor league conference, TV money gets cut by 40-50%, and all sports will suffer.
 
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Name calling only weakens your already non-existent argument. Academics was, at best, an extremely minor issue. Mizzou couldn’t and wouldn’t deliver new eyeballs, which is why they weren’t even considered for membership. Reviewing Delany’s track record, as you’ve been repeatedly shown, is conclusive evidence of this. You look Foolish trying to refute this, and it’s obvious you don’t understand how this process has worked for some time. Just stop.
cry me a river.

Again....

What was the "media spread"??

you're looking foolish by refusing to admit you haven't a clue, that you're just pulling that out your arse.
 
The B1G needs to add the best football schools it can, or the SEC will skim the cream (Ohio State, Michigan, etc) off the B1G, and turn into the English Premier League of college football, while the remaining B1G schools will be relegated to second division.
Thank you for being the voice of reason...
 
Back when the NFL was working on their long term TV strategy, their was a debate among the owners as to whether to let each team do its own deal, or do one league-wide contract and split the revenue equally.

Many of the big market owners wanted to do their own TV deals, but Giants owner Wellington Mara believed that the NFL product would benefit from equally sharing TV revenue among all teams. Obviously, he has proven to be correct.

I’m not sure college football has such a visionary.
It already works reasonably well at the conference level.

There are two big differences between the NFL and CFB. One, there's no way to split revenue between Alabama and Ball State. Two, schools can move conference to conference. There is no alternative to the NFL for an NFL franchise.
 
Back when the NFL was working on their long term TV strategy, their was a debate among the owners as to whether to let each team do its own deal, or do one league-wide contract and split the revenue equally.

Many of the big market owners wanted to do their own TV deals, but Giants owner Wellington Mara believed that the NFL product would benefit from equally sharing TV revenue among all teams. Obviously, he has proven to be correct.

I’m not sure college football has such a visionary.

or if there is.....not sure they (nor anyone else) has the clout/influence/leverage to pull something like that off....
 
If the B1G doesn’t add the best football programs it can, then the SEC will come for OSU, Michigan, etc.

Then the B1G will be a second tier/minor league conference, TV money gets cut by 40-50%, and all sports will suffer.
If that’s what all the super powers want to do, it can’t be stopped anyway. lol you think the big ten adding FSU stops that? All three could just go
 
cry me a river.

Again....

What was the "media spread"??

you're looking foolish by refusing to admit you haven't a clue, that you're just pulling that out your arse.
You’ve either not followed the Bit 10 over the past couple of decades, you’re unfamiliar with Jim Delany and his track record, or you’re simply being obtuse but, either way, your ignorance is on display for all to see. For you to admit that you didn’t realize that the spread of the BTN beyond its original footprint is and was the primary objective is surprising, at the very least. If you really don’t understand how this works and how it has worked for some time and you’re not interested in learning about it, why are you here?
 
If the B1G doesn’t add the best football programs it can, then the SEC will come for OSU, Michigan, etc.

Then the B1G will be a second tier/minor league conference, TV money gets cut by 40-50%, and all sports will suffer.
40-50% cut.. hmm... probably more like 15-20%. And that is worst-case scenario with OSU and UM leaving. Also, the Big Ten payout is nearly $20M more than the ACC payout, yet somehow their programs get by.
 
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You’ve either not followed the Bit 10 over the past couple of decades, you’re unfamiliar with Jim Delany and his track record, or you’re simply being obtuse but, either way, your ignorance is on display for all to see. For you to admit that you didn’t realize that the spread of the BTN beyond its original footprint is and was the primary objective is surprising, at the very least. If you really don’t understand how this works and how it has worked for some time and you’re not interested in learning about it, why are you here?
You're still refusing to answer the question.

I stated that the determining factor for Mizzou not being admitted to the B1G was due to their very pedestrian academic record/reputation.

You chose to go on this unending crusade, INSISTING it was due to .... the "media spread".

Okay. Exactly what was the "media spread" you so confidently cited?

Exactly what was that number??? (So far, your answer is "I don't know".)
 
40-50% cut.. hmm... probably more like 15-20%. And that is worst-case scenario with OSU and UM leaving. Also, the Big Ten payout is nearly $20M more than the ACC payout, yet somehow their programs get by.
If OSU and UM left, it would have to be over a 30% cut per team. But I hope we don’t find out.
 
Adding a ND, TAMU, and/or FSU would persuade OSU and UM to stay put.
And make us a guaranteed laughing stock.. OSU and Michigan don’t want to be held down by schools like us anyway.

by the way, how about that modern basketball? Pretty dope huh? KD 4-12? “Dame” 3-10? And Olympic basketball isn’t even that physical… just slightly. I thought KD was this new threat.. and it wouldn’t matter if you got in his body because he’s 7 feet and can shoot 3s
 
And make us a guaranteed laughing stock.. OSU and Michigan don’t want to be held down by schools like us anyway.

by the way, how about that modern basketball? Pretty dope huh? KD 4-12? “Dame” 3-10? And Olympic basketball isn’t even that physical… just slightly. I thought KD was this new threat.. and it wouldn’t matter if you got in his body because he’s 7 feet and can shoot 3s
So you want to win minor league championships. OK cool.
 
So you want to win minor league championships. OK cool.
If they’re going they’re going regardless dude … if they have their way, you think they think Purdue should be with them or that we are a minor league program?

by the way, how about your terrible god awful takes on basketball and how they were exposed by French randos
 
If they’re going they’re going regardless dude … if they have their way, you think they think Purdue should be with them or that we are a minor league program?

by the way, how about your terrible god awful takes on basketball and how they were exposed by French randos
What takes?
And if you don’t think adding high quality football programs to the conference would entice OSU and UM to stay, we are done here.
 
And make us a guaranteed laughing stock.. OSU and Michigan don’t want to be held down by schools like us anyway.

by the way, how about that modern basketball? Pretty dope huh? KD 4-12? “Dame” 3-10? And Olympic basketball isn’t even that physical… just slightly. I thought KD was this new threat.. and it wouldn’t matter if you got in his body because he’s 7 feet and can shoot 3s
You have a focus/concentration issue.
 
What takes?
And if you don’t think adding high quality football programs to the conference would entice OSU and UM to stay, we are done here.
If they are leaving they are leaving .. and I’d rather be good in a conference without the big dogs than be a joke because I think I’m gonna sit there and count the treasure with Ohio state. You go ahead and root for a 3-9 Purdue where Ohio state feels content staying with the ugly girl .. I’m good on that
 
You have a focus/concentration issue.
I don’t think about you. You think about dudes on message boards? I have no thoughts on any of you other than your takes. Come to think of it, I can’t remember any of your takes either …

Oh you mean juggling two topics at the same time? I hope it didn’t ruin your year lol

the morons rooting this on Are the same morons who think it’s neat that Purdue wins brownie points for making their schedule unnecessarily hard
 
If they are leaving they are leaving .. and I’d rather be good in a conference without the big dogs than be a joke because I think I’m gonna sit there and count the treasure with Ohio state. You go ahead and root for a 3-9 Purdue where Ohio state feels content staying with the ugly girl .. I’m good on that
They won’t leave if you add the right programs. Period.
 
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