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I missed it too. Do you have a reference?

Here is one I found, although the publication is not trustworthy. This particular writer, however, seems to have a good understanding of the meaning of coup - so I encourage you to read it.


I get your schtick is insufferable douche but you probably should read your own links.

If the question is whether those actions are as gravely serious as a coup, the answer is yes, said Erica de Bruin, a political scientist at Hamilton College who has researched coups for more than a decade.
 
I get your schtick is insufferable douche but you probably should read your own links.

If the question is whether those actions are as gravely serious as a coup, the answer is yes, said Erica de Bruin, a political scientist at Hamilton College who has researched coups for more than a decade.
Well, if Erica de Bruin says it, it must be true - although I am wondering why it took her so long to research coups. Must already have tenure.

I haven't studied coups much, but the ones I know about seem to lead to someone killing and replacing someone else. Since there was no chance of that happening on Wed, I don't see how Wed was as 'gravely serious' as a coup. Do you?
 
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I said nothing about the Parler topic. Nothing. Also said nothing about anyone being supportive of the DC riot.

This is an example of your seeing attacks that just aren't there.

My point was those trying to equate the attack on the Capitol with protests for civil rights or workers rights, which have happened since the beginning of our country, either know nothing of history or don't appreciate the gravity of the 1/6 attack on our democracy.
EVERY single person in my orbit thinks what happened this week was insane. I guess I don't know who the "those" are who which you are referring?
 
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The policies of lying, narcissism, and authoritarianism.
Those personal "policies" led him to refuse to accept his loss in the election and triggered the events of 1/6.

This is the direct result of Americans ignoring the character and judgement of people they vote for. Just vote for the letter and give me a tax cut.
There was much more than the tax cut and slight increase of freedom as a result. I for one got sick of seeing ISIS growing every day while torturing people. I liked having nato pay closer to what they should have been paying the last 50 plus years. Being one that has actually worked with a lot of product from China, knowing the vast array of electronics and advanced factories along with the hoarding materials, the Russian collusion hoax deflected from China the real threat that companies like GM bailed out by taxpayers support . Something as simple reducing the state taxes off the fed as an attempt to make states more accountable for their spending and this was with continuous attacks from the dems, almost all media, high tech and hoaxes left and right. It was much more than a tax cut.

Still, I understand that people can disagree with those and that is their right and totally acceptable as a thought rather than a feeling. All with more roadblocks than those before him with those before and recent roadblocks selling off the country and taxpayers for their personal power and wealth. My mind turns to John lennons plastic ono band song "A Working Class Hero is still a peasant as far as I can see..."

Someone doesn't like his words or behavior...I understand. However, when I'm on an island and the alligators are coming ashore I don't care that someone says to shoot those f'ing gators.
 
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Well, if Erica de Bruin says it, it must be true - although I am wondering why it took her so long to research coups. Must already have tenure.

I haven't studied coups much, but the ones I know about seem to lead to someone killing and replacing someone else. Since there was no chance of that happening on Wed, I don't see how Wed was as 'gravely serious' as a coup. Do you?
So you're now arguing against the link you sent to back your point up. Ok trumper.
 
There was much more than the tax cut and slight increase of freedom as a result. I for one got sick of seeing ISIS growing every day while torturing people. I liked having nato pay closer to what they should have been paying the last 50 plus years. Being one that has actually worked with a lot of product from China, knowing the vast array of electronics and advanced factories along with the hoarding materials, the Russian collusion hoax deflected from China the real threat that companies like GM bailed out by taxpayers support . Something as simple reducing the state taxes off the fed as an attempt to make states more accountable for their spending and this was with continuous attacks from the dems, almost all media, high tech and hoaxes left and right. It was much more than a tax cut.

Still, I understand that people can disagree with those and that is their right and totally acceptable as a thought rather than a feeling. All with more roadblocks than those before him with those before and recent roadblocks selling off the country and taxpayers for their personal power and wealth. My mind turns to John lennons plastic ono band song "A Working Class Hero is still a peasant as far as I can see..."

Someone doesn't like his words or behavior...I understand. However, when I'm on an island and the alligators are coming ashore I don't care that someone says to shoot those f'ing gators.

You know ISIS was born through radicalization and misinformation using social media. Y’all Qaeda has be done the same way.

Everyone is focusing on social media censoring. The problem is their algorithms create echo chambers that are full display.
 
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Ah, yeah you're right. This is totally comparable to what happened at the Capitol. FWIW, you said it had been happening for 4 years in cities all across America. Seems like a bit of an exaggeration if this is your only evidence.


care to argue with USAToday? Note the term “Nationwide” and “for the third day”

How quickly people forget or fail to listen or read.

 
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care to argue with USAToday? Note the term “Nationwide” and “for the third day”

How quickly people forget or fail to listen or read.


You are painting with an extremely broad brush. Nationwide "PROTESTS, SOME VIOLENT." It does not say every protest across the nation was violent. It's easy to spin it that way, but you know that's not accurate. You have two that had some vehicles and shops vandalized, and three days is a far cry from 4 years. But yeah, that definitely proves riots happened for 4 years across the nation in opposition to Trump's presidency.
 
You know ISIS was born through radicalization and misinformation using social media. Y’all Qaeda has be done the same way.

Everyone is focusing on social media censoring. The problem is their algorithms create echo chambers that are full display.
So you don't think this board is an echo chamber? There are about 6-8 people who constantly pat each other on the back here multiple times a day, and if anyone questions that mindset they are attacked. A great example is the mantra on here that anyone who voted for Trump is somehow responsible for what happened on Wednesday. That's just insane. Also if anyone questions the narrative that the democrats would have miracuously handled Covid better they have been attacked.

On that subject, noted liberal Dick Parsons was interviewed Friday on CNBC and he was lamenting that it was impossible for a >65 person like him to get vaccinated in NY due to the insane regulations it has in place. He said he was going to FL where he said he could get it like the next day. Oh the irony as he was being interviewed by the king of NYC provincialism, Andrew Ross Sorkin. Of course Sorkin did not follow up as to why it was so much easier to get it in one of the evil red states.

I could make a list a mile long on here.
 
You know ISIS was born through radicalization and misinformation using social media. Y’all Qaeda has be done the same way.

Everyone is focusing on social media censoring. The problem is their algorithms create echo chambers that are full display.
Yes as well as schools over there. It is not a comparison in what is allowed and not allowed. My niece says twitter banned her for a tweet mentioning 1984 and another person I know was banned for 30 days??? from Facebook . I don't get on, but know him and would be shocked if there was merit in banning him.

This should not be a shock. Years ago Diane Ravitch appointed by Clinton to study bias in education and this guru on the history of education was shocked of so many books and phrases banned affecting all the texts in k-12. This political correctness has been gaining steam for some time. Is the correct word Bowdlerized see dr T bowdler
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You have the internet or were all your news sources shut down?

For how many of you love Mike Pence, it’s a shame you think it’s ok that people asked for him to be hung.


I think I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you had a source saying John Roberts is a pedophile, but you were referring to Lin Woods post stating Pence should be hung. My fault.

I do not believe Lin Woods post. I thought it was crap. I do not support hanging anyone. Sorry for the (my?) confusion.
 
Just posted editorial on the WSJ, which, by the way, called for Trump's ouster, entitled "The Progressive Purge Begins." It's paywalled so I can't link it.
 
EVERY single person in my orbit thinks what happened this week was insane. I guess I don't know who the "those" are who which you are referring?
I'm not sure I can dumb it down from the post itself.
"those trying to equate the attack on the Capitol with protests for civil rights or workers rights"

The DC attack was disgusting BUT cities burning, BLM, Portland, the media.........that kind of thing.

The attack on the Capitol was a unique, unprecedented attack on our democracy.
It shouldn't be compared to anything, especially to make a political argument or point.
 
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There was much more than the tax cut and slight increase of freedom as a result. I for one got sick of seeing ISIS growing every day while torturing people. I liked having nato pay closer to what they should have been paying the last 50 plus years. Being one that has actually worked with a lot of product from China, knowing the vast array of electronics and advanced factories along with the hoarding materials, the Russian collusion hoax deflected from China the real threat that companies like GM bailed out by taxpayers support . Something as simple reducing the state taxes off the fed as an attempt to make states more accountable for their spending and this was with continuous attacks from the dems, almost all media, high tech and hoaxes left and right. It was much more than a tax cut.

Still, I understand that people can disagree with those and that is their right and totally acceptable as a thought rather than a feeling. All with more roadblocks than those before him with those before and recent roadblocks selling off the country and taxpayers for their personal power and wealth. My mind turns to John lennons plastic ono band song "A Working Class Hero is still a peasant as far as I can see..."

Someone doesn't like his words or behavior...I understand. However, when I'm on an island and the alligators are coming ashore I don't care that someone says to shoot those f'ing gators.
Lol. You think the "tax cut" reference meant that's all he did?

For all your long winded replies, you rarely talk about the subject at hand........that while all you people applauded his policies you dismissed his obvious examples of deep character flaws and poor judgement.......among many other deficiencies.

His public policies had little to do with insurrectionists attacking our democracy. His narcissism and lack of morals had everything to do with it.

You told us not to pay attention to what he says,only what he does. In this case, both led directly to the assault on the Capitol.
Who has TDS now?
 
I'm not sure I can dumb it down from the post itself.
"those trying to equate the attack on the Capitol with protests for civil rights or workers rights"

The DC attack was disgusting BUT cities burning, BLM, Portland, the media.........that kind of thing.

The attack on the Capitol was a unique, unprecedented attack on our democracy.
It shouldn't be compared to anything, especially to make a political argument or point.
Did I compare it to anything? Those idiots should rot in jail.
 
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Some of y’all worked up over Parler might want to investigate it’s roots a bit. This is a chain of Tweets from a tech reporter back in November (Parler is HQ in Nevada).

Spoiler alert: Russians and Rudy! At least Twitter and FB are run by American oligarchs!

 
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you are a fool. any decent debater would display that for all. Substitute black or gay people with Nazis and your case falls apart. Dummy. You do not get to decide which group is protected.


A coffee shop holding black or gay meetings? Not only are you dead wrong about protected classes, but you asserted that there are black or gay meetings in coffee shops.
 
You know ISIS was born through radicalization and misinformation using social media. Y’all Qaeda has be done the same way.

Everyone is focusing on social media censoring. The problem is their algorithms create echo chambers that are full display.
Actually, ISIS was born because of Obama.
 
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So you don't think this board is an echo chamber? There are about 6-8 people who constantly pat each other on the back here multiple times a day, and if anyone questions that mindset they are attacked. A great example is the mantra on here that anyone who voted for Trump is somehow responsible for what happened on Wednesday. That's just insane. Also if anyone questions the narrative that the democrats would have miracuously handled Covid better they have been attacked.

On that subject, noted liberal Dick Parsons was interviewed Friday on CNBC and he was lamenting that it was impossible for a >65 person like him to get vaccinated in NY due to the insane regulations it has in place. He said he was going to FL where he said he could get it like the next day. Oh the irony as he was being interviewed by the king of NYC provincialism, Andrew Ross Sorkin. Of course Sorkin did not follow up as to why it was so much easier to get it in one of the evil red states.

I could make a list a mile long on here.
Andrew Ross Sorkin drove me from CNBC...that kids a whack job.
 
Did I compare it to anything? Those idiots should rot in jail.
Lol. No. You just jumped on me about Parler.......about 4 posts ago.......when I have been talking about the difference between the Capitol attack vs. BLM protests the whole time. I don't know wtf you're trying to accomplish.
 
It's funny that Trump is literally trying to overthrow an election that every non-Trump loyalist agrees was fair, yet this is still your take.

The last 3 Republican Presidents had their Electoral College votes challenged, as well. The MSM only makes a big deal about it, when a Republican raises the issue.

There were a lot of strange things that occurred during this election, many of which were attested to by people willing to sign affidavits under penalty of perjury. The Dems & MSM saying, "Move along, there's nothing to see here." does not inspire confidence or allay concerns.
 
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So you're now arguing against the link you sent to back your point up. Ok trumper.
Admittedly, NYT is not the best source to cite. I was trying to help you understand that your claim to Sophie that Trump called for a coup was not accurate. Do you still think he called for a coup because, if not, you should apologize to Sophie for your rudeness - not that I would expect you to do anything honorable like that, but it would be great if you surprised us.
 
The last 3 Republican Presidents had their Electoral College votes challenged, as well. The MSM only makes a big deal about it, when a Republican raises the issue.

There were a lot of strange things that occurred during this election, many of which were attested to by people willing to sign affidavits under penalty of perjury. The Dems & MSM saying, "Move along, there's nothing to see here." does not inspire confidence or allay concerns.

Not that it makes much of a difference, but isn't it the last 3 races won by Republicans not the last three Republican presidents? I'm not aware of any objections to HW. I think it was W twice and Trump once.

As to your second point, it's a bit disingenuous to frame it as "Dems and MSM" when people on both sides at all levels of government have said "move along, there's nothing to see here." That includes courts with Trump appointed judges, leaders of intelligence agencies in Trump's administration, GOP secretaries of state, GOP governors, etc.
 
And him and his wife enjoy positions at Universities which take public money. Of course they come from very connected families.

Things the MSM didn't tell you about in 2007:
Barack Obama was in Bill Ayers living room, when he decided/was convinced to run for President.

One can only wonder what impact that might have had on the election, had the media spent some time on Ayers, as well as Jeremiah Wright. Not just casually mention them, but really let the electorate know who these people really were. Of course that would require a fair and objective media/press, which we do not have.
 
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They would just move offshore and keep operating as normal.

Either way, Dems are in control now so you conservatives just have to suck it up for at least 4 years, cause nothing is happening to tech anytime soon. It’ll be tough to not be able to post “hang Mike Pence” online, but I’m sure you’ll survive.

Good news is you can always boycott all technology and turn Amish!! Or better yet, buy some servers and start your own tech company where violence and coup attempts are applauded!

I think my dog would like you. He has some of his best times at a Ptree.
 
Things the MSM didn't tell you about in 2007:
Barack Obama was in Bill Ayers living room, when he decided/was convinced to run for President.

One can only wonder what impact that might have had on the election, had the media spent some time on Ayers, as well as Jeremiah Wright. Not just casually mention them, but really let the electorate know who these people really were. Of course that would require a fair and objective media/press, which we do not have.

Who told you this? Carrier pigeons?
 
I don't think the people pushing for a repeal really know what they are asking for. This isn't something that would only affect "big tech." It would remove protections from ANY company that has content published by anyone on their sites. Parler would undoubtedly be affected and frankly, would either become a shell of what its user base loves about it right now, or it would cease to exist because it would be sued repeatedly. Lots of smaller sites would be affected. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, etc. would continue existing much like they currently do, but they would censor content and/or accounts A LOT more than they do now. Is that really what people want?

The whole debate about 230 is that Congress gave the Tech companies the protection from liability, because they claimed that they weren't Publishers, but just conduits for social discourse. The problem is that they have assumed the role of Editors, which is a Publishing function, which is why Congress is allegedly considering rescinding 230.

Their political bias is causing them to dramatically Edit Conservative speech, while leaving most Liberal speech untouched. I believe the whole point of a site like Twitter is to be a means to exchange ideas. If there is no diversity in the ideas presented, it becomes an echo chamber, which serves little purpose.

I don't believe anyone has a problem with shutting down people making threats or colluding to break laws. Using personal pronouns is NOT breaking any laws.
 
The whole debate about 230 is that Congress gave the Tech companies the protection from liability, because they claimed that they weren't Publishers, but just conduits for social discourse. The problem is that they have assumed the role of Editors, which is a Publishing function, which is why Congress is allegedly considering rescinding 230.

Their political bias is causing them to dramatically Edit Conservative speech, while leaving most Liberal speech untouched. I believe the whole point of a site like Twitter is to be a means to exchange ideas. If there is no diversity in the ideas presented, it becomes an echo chamber, which serves little purpose.

I don't believe anyone has a problem with shutting down people making threats or colluding to break laws. Using personal pronouns is NOT breaking any laws.
Still waiting for the examples of conservative speech being shut down that is not linked to either bogus fraud claims or the crazy crap from last week.
 
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The whole debate about 230 is that Congress gave the Tech companies the protection from liability, because they claimed that they weren't Publishers, but just conduits for social discourse. The problem is that they have assumed the role of Editors, which is a Publishing function, which is why Congress is allegedly considering rescinding 230.

Their political bias is causing them to dramatically Edit Conservative speech, while leaving most Liberal speech untouched. I believe the whole point of a site like Twitter is to be a means to exchange ideas. If there is no diversity in the ideas presented, it becomes an echo chamber, which serves little purpose.

I don't believe anyone has a problem with shutting down people making threats or colluding to break laws. Using personal pronouns is NOT breaking any laws.

Yes, but as I've pointed out elsewhere in this thread, rescinding 230 does more than just take away their power to be "editors" as you say. It makes them liable for anything posted on their sites. Do you honestly believe that is going to lead them to being MORE open with the people/content they allow on their platform?
 
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