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2 amazing kids with my ex-wife who is a remarkable, beautiful, talented and insufferable alpha female in the Hilary/Merkel mold

I want another one or perhaps 2 with my next wife.

4 would be the max. I can financially handle more, but you need to give them the time and attention too. No point having kids unless you can be a good father

Respect to Barnes and Swanigan
 
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2 amazing kids with my ex-wife who is a remarkable, beautiful, talented and insufferable alpha female in the Hilary/Merkel mold

I want another one or perhaps 2 with my next wife.

4 would be the max. I can financially handle more, but you need to give them the time and attention too.

I would have failed if I can't do for my own flesh and blood, what Barnes did for Swanigan
Well, good luck on finding yourself a beautiful African goddess. ;)
 
the chinese are a minority in the US. Not that they get (or should get) the same minority rights as Hispanics (over 600 million globally) or Africans (1.1 billion). For that matter, there are about as many white people in the world as there are Chinese or Indians.

I'm a mix of Taiwanese, Dutch, Arab, Malay. My next kid will be half African.....looking forward to teaching him about the world

My daughter married a German (East Germany to be exact) and before that dated for about three years a Chinese whose family was originally from the Philippines. My mother's side were Brits and native Indian. My Father's side a lot of German and Heinz 57 with the first to come to the USA...Welsh. A lot of mixed puppies in all of us... :)
 
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2 amazing kids with my ex-wife who is a remarkable, beautiful, talented and insufferable alpha female in the Hilary/Merkel mold

I want another one or perhaps 2 with my next wife.

4 would be the max. I can financially handle more, but you need to give them the time and attention too. No point having kids unless you can be a good father

Respect to Barnes and Swanigan
Much...Much...Much respect to both of them...and to Caleb's brother for caring about Caleb to get him out of the situation.
 
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Oh, I am the happiest man I know. Kids are doing great, and so's the ex.

My way of life may be very different from yours, but thats ok.

There's no need to be overly prescriptive when it comes to the pursuit of happiness, as long as my happiness is not built on the misery of others
 
My daughter married a German (East Germany to be exact) and before that dated for about three years a Chinese whose family was originally from the Philippines. My mother's side were Brits and native Indian. My Father's side a lot of German and Heinz 57 with the first to come from the USA...Welsh. A lot of mixed puppies in all of us... :)

Sprichst du deutsch?

I'm actually in Berlin right now and headed to the Philippines for Christmas
 
As a minority who has traveled and lived all around the world, I have my own personal scale of equality/diversity when it comes to race/religion/sexuality.

Global cities like Manhattan, SF, London, Berlin, Singapore, Sydney, are the 'fairest' places I have been. On a scale of 1-10, they would be the 10s....as good as it gets.

The worst is probably to be a blond haired blue eyed Christian in ISIS held territory. This is a 1

Indiana/Lafayette is probably around a 7.5.....typical for a midwestern college town. The way I see it, if you break it down into concentric circles.....the first ring of 50% are more or less color blind and will judge me fairly. Another 45% will stereotype me to my disadvantage, but fairly minor stuff that is easily overcome with an extra spurt of effort/thickenedskin. The truly racist is about 5%

Room for improvement, worth trying to improve, but also lets get some perspective before we go apeshit. There are far worse places in America where racism is much more deeply ingrained and pernicious

If I were back in a place like Lafayette, and I wanted to be socially aware and active, I would put equal or greater priorities on national issues like corrosive campaign financing in politics, gun control, improving general literacy and voter awareness, ensuring the social primacy of science and rationalism over religion and bigotry, enhancing industrial innovation and technical commercialization. Or global issues like climate change, resource enhancement and allocation, income inequality, greater rights for women (especially in Muslim societies).

Lots of great causes and things to improve in the world we live in. Racial equality is an important one, but I feel there are others that are just as important that have received far less attention

SnowLeopard,

I can see we have differences of opinion politically, but I think if I'm not inferring too much that you see the way to change things is to persevere and appeal to people's better nature through emphasizing fair play.

I call this the Dr. King method. With or without the religious rhetoric, he makes it clear that we owe it to women and minorities to give them a fair shake.

On the other hand, making demands and using sharp rhetoric only hardens the racists and the unsympathetic, while marginalizing the ones who would normally rally to your aide.

Correct me if I misstate your position, but if not, having a common goal across racial and political lines is the best way to heal race relations and move forward.

I think the sixties started on the right path and quickly degraded into where we are headed after assisinations and frustration overtook everything.

Even as a conservative, I hoped Obama would bring us closer to healing, but sadly I see the country headed down the wrong path.
 
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Boilerbuck,

I hadn't given much thought to be honest (I wasn't even aware I had a position!), but what you wrote rings true

Fair play, appealing to people's better nature, common goals, etc.......the only thing I would add to that is staying positive and that sometimes you may need to carry a big stick even while you speak softly and reasonably

I'd be proud if I could say I am such a person, but I'm not there yet, at least not consistently.

The optimist in me would say that progress is often about taking three steps forward, then two steps back. Things may not be improving as fast as we want, but that's not to say its not improving.



SnowLeopard,

I can see we have differences of opinion politically, but I think if I'm not inferring too much that you see the way to change things is to persevere and appeal to people's better nature through emphasizing fair play.

I call this the Dr. King method. With or without the religious rhetoric, he makes it clear that we owe it to women and minorities to give them a fair shake.

On the other hand, making demands and using sharp rhetoric only hardens the racists and the unsympathetic, while marginalizing the ones who would normally rally to your aide.

Correct me if I misstate your position, but if not, having a common goal across racial and political lines is the best way to heal race relations and move forward.

I think the sixties started on the right path and quickly degraded into where we are headed after assisinations and frustration overtook everything.

Even as a conservative, I hoped Obama would bring us closer to healing, but sadly I see the country headed down the wrong path.
 
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2 amazing kids with my ex-wife who is a remarkable, beautiful, talented and insufferable alpha female in the Hilary/Merkel mold

I want another one or perhaps 2 with my next wife.

4 would be the max. I can financially handle more, but you need to give them the time and attention too. No point having kids unless you can be a good father

Respect to Barnes and Swanigan
Much...Much...Much respect to both of them...and to Caleb's brother for caring about Caleb to get him out of the situation.
Sprichst du deutsch?

I'm actually in Berlin right now and headed to the Philippines for Christmas
No, I want to learn. I have Babbel for a few more months but it is so hard to find the time. Too much outside work and interest in basketball. I have 15 days of vacation I have to get in before the year is out and I hope to get in gear then at the latest! He is from Plauen (2 hours from Berlin?)...close to Prague. I want to go there (Germany) and Italy this summer assuming this ISIS thing doesn't get worse. Her previous boy friend (in politics) spent a few years in Washington, D.C. and just recently accepted a position working for the minister of finance in Australia. I would love to speak some German before I go although all his friends speak some English and his parents speak a little as well. If you have experience in Italy I may want to pick your brain down the road.
 
Much...Much...Much respect to both of them...and to Caleb's brother for caring about Caleb to get him out of the situation.

No, I want to learn. I have Babbel for a few more months but it is so hard to find the time. Too much outside work and interest in basketball. I have 15 days of vacation I have to get in before the year is out and I hope to get in gear then at the latest! He is from Plauen (2 hours from Berlin?)...close to Prague. I want to go there (Germany) and Italy this summer assuming this ISIS thing doesn't get worse. Her previous boy friend (in politics) spent a few years in Washington, D.C. and just recently accepted a position working for the minister of finance in Australia. I would love to speak some German before I go although all his friends speak some English and his parents speak a little as well. If you have experience in Italy I may want to pick your brain down the road.

Small world!

If your daughter's ex is working for the Australian finance minister, I might run into him next year if a particular project I'm waiting on gets green lighted.

My ex is German (and to be honest, my kids are too) and I had the best summer of my life this year while dating an Italian. Spent a lot of time in Italy, took my mom to Venice last winter, and will spend a month in Rome for work after Christmas in Philippines.

Plauen is a sleepy town in a hilly region, very traditional and pretty. The road to Prague will take you near the Bohemian spa triangle, Karlovy Vary is wonderful in summer. I haven't met anyone who doesn't love Prague but it can get swamped with tourists in the summer.

English is widely understood in Germany, though less so in Italy.

Try to avoid Europe in July and August if you can. Its boiling hot, tourists everywhere, and you pay a steep markup for many tourist essentials. May/June and Sept/October is far preferable.

There's so many great things to see in Europe, but my favorite would be the train ride from Munich to Venice, it goes through Innsbruck and the Alps (one of the great train rides in the world, and as a Boilermaker, how can you skip that). For less than $100 in first class if booked in advance. And its bookended by Munich (the most beautiful big city in Germany) and Venice (most beautiful city built by mankind....well, honorable mention to Paris, New York, Istanbul, Granada and Seville)

*ADD*

The ISIS medieval nut jobs need to be stopped, but statistically, the chances of physical harm happening to you while taking a vacation in Italy-Germany is insignificant. Somewhat higher is the recent spate of petty crime in European capitals committed by Southeastern European immigrants...this summer has been especially bad for pickpockets, luggage thieves, etc, in Paris and Berlin. I racial profile for crime by watching for hairy dark white males walking singly or in pairs.

Feel free to PM me if you have more questions, so we don't hog this thread.
 
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2 amazing kids with my ex-wife who is a remarkable, beautiful, talented and insufferable alpha female in the Hilary/Merkel mold

I want another one or perhaps 2 with my next wife.

4 would be the max. I can financially handle more, but you need to give them the time and attention too. No point having kids unless you can be a good father

Respect to Barnes and Swanigan



Both Hillary & Angela Merkel are type A personalities, but Merkel is actually quite conservative [& from a German conservative political party] in most policies. One is a criminal, the other a German.



Bubba
 
Small world!

If your daughter's ex is working for the Australian finance minister, I might run into him next year if a particular project I'm waiting on gets green lighted.

My ex is German (and to be honest, my kids are too) and I had the best summer of my life this year while dating an Italian. Spent a lot of time in Italy, took my mom to Venice last winter, and will spend a month in Rome for work after Christmas in Philippines.

Plauen is a sleepy town in a hilly region, very traditional and pretty. The road to Prague will take you near the Bohemian spa triangle, Karlovy Vary is wonderful in summer. I haven't met anyone who doesn't love Prague but it can get swamped with tourists in the summer.

English is widely understood in Germany, though less so in Italy.

Try to avoid Europe in July and August if you can. Its boiling hot, tourists everywhere, and you pay 50% extra for many tourist essentials. May/June and Sept/October is far preferable.

There's so many great things to see in Europe, but my favorite would be the train ride from Munich to Venice, it goes through Innsbruck and the Alps (one of the great train rides in the world, and as a Boilermaker, how can you skip that). For less than $100 in first class if booked 60 or 90 days in advance. And its bookended by Munich (the most beautiful big city in Germany) and Venice (most beautiful city built by mankind....well, honorable mention to Paris, New York, Istanbul, Granada and Seville)


ISIS
I definitely want to stay in touch with you on that topic as well as basketball. Her X is Ed Yap (went to Notre Dame) in case you search for him. Unfortunately I think July is the time frame, although I would prefer October for the reasons you suggest. Her husband does research for pharmaceutical companies relative to DNA. She met him on his monthly trips to Lilly in the airport on the way back to D.C. I'm thinking of Italy and then to meet up with them in Germany after they go to Spain. It will be my first trip to Europe. Most of my work took me into Mexico. I will be more than happy to give you Ed's contact info should you go there. I have a cousin that lived in FRankfort for a few years...loved Germany. Military family..his dad was a spy. :)
 
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Both Hillary & Angela Merkel are type A personalities, but Merkel is actually quite conservative [& from a German conservative political party] in most policies. One is a criminal, the other a German.



Bubba


Merkel is indeed a German conservative, but she is also anti-guns, anti-death penalty, pro universal healthcare, pro social safety nets, pro-minorities, pro-asylum seekers

Conservative parties in western Europe are way to the left of Republicans. Possibly even left of the Democrats.

Merkel is clearly to the left of Hilary

the problem in the US is not left vs right politics. Its corruption within politics. German politics is clean. American politics isn't

I would have no problems voting for Eisenhower or Obama

Hilary or Romney....meh
 
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If you don't feel knowledgeable to answer such questions, then don't you think you should, stay out of the conversation?

I'm your Huckleberry.

As a social worker who has worked closely with perhaps 500- 1000 minority persons over the years, I've personally become privy to and even witness to disparities in housing, economic, employment opportunities, as well as inequality in criminal sentencing matters.

It's been eye opening. And my eyes cry at times.
 
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I'm your Huckleberry.

As a social worker who has worked closely with perhaps 500- 1000 minority persons over the years, I've personally become privy to and even witness to disparities in housing, economic, employment opportunities, as well as inequality in criminal sentencing matters.

It's been eye opening. And my eyes cry at times.
White people haven't had these issues? Just minorities?
 
White people haven't had these issues? Just minorities?

The term I used, which seems most accurate to me is "disparity."

It's to the point of being way disproportionate.

This is what I've seen personally through the years.

Some of it is institutional. Some is unconscious bias, in my opinion. Some is conscious bias.
 
White people haven't had these issues? Just minorities?

Its not mutually exclusive. Yes, there exists unjustifiable disparities between black and white. And yes, there also exists unjustifiable disparities between poor whites and rich whites

Social mobility in the US is nowhere near what it should be, and is highly divergent depending on location

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http://www.economist.com/news/unite...obile-it-was-generation-ago-mobility-measured

For a start, since the gap between top and bottom has widened, the consequences of an accident of birth have become bigger. Second, if the gains of growth are going mostly to those at the top, that bodes ill for those whose skills are less in demand. Many economists worry that living standards for the non-elite will stagnate for a long time.


Third, although social mobility has not changed much over time, it varies widely from place to place. In a second paper, the economists crunch their tax statistics by region. They find that the probability of a child born into the poorest fifth of the population in San Jose, California making it to the top is 12.9%, not much lower than in Denmark. In Charlotte, North Carolina it is 4.4%, far lower than anywhere else in the rich world.

This geographic prism also offers some pointers on what influences mobility. The economists found five factors that were correlated with differences in social mobility in different parts of America: residential segregation (whether by income or race); the quality of schooling; family structure (eg, how many children live with only one parent); “social capital” (such as taking part in community groups); and inequality (particularly income gaps among those outside the top 1%). Social mobility is higher in integrated places with good schools, strong families, lots of community spirit and smaller income gaps within the broad middle class. Not a bad agenda for politicians to push, if only they knew how.
 
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My age should not distort the message of black oppression in this country. African American oppression doesn't excuse specific incident or crime or complaint one could make, but I think many of these events need to be viewed through the historical lens of institutional and informal oppression and prejudice that still exists today.

I hesitate to even speak to this seeing as I haven't experienced it myself, but I will re-iterate how difficult it is to understand the difference in standing and opportunity one sees if he or she is born black vs white in this country.
But how is this in any way the fault of Mitch Daniels, or a reflection on Purdue University? There is absolutely no credibility to any claim that Daniels or Purdue University are insensitive to minorities. None.
 
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A few months back I was at a small town lumber yard and got a pick ticket for some wood. I pulled around but didn't see the yard attendant. I knew what I needed so I loaded my boards. Just then the attendant came around the corner and shouted down to me if I found everything ok. I yelled back that I had and asked if he needed to see my pick ticket. He said no and went on his business. A seemingly innocent interaction until I really thought about it. If I change nothing about the situation but now I am a black or Hispanic person, does he act the same way? Does he come to check my ticket?
To me this is white privilege.

But you invented this "racism" in your head! You have convicted this attendant of racism when he is totally innocent of your accusation. You took your mind down this dark path where you concluded that because a man trusted you, he must be a racist. Why? Because you are white!

I have seen some messed up logic in my day, but this rates near the top.
 
Its not mutually exclusive. Yes, there exists unjustifiable disparities between black and white. And yes, there also exists unjustifiable disparities between poor whites and rich whites

Social mobility in the US is nowhere near what it should be, and is highly divergent depending on location

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http://www.economist.com/news/unite...obile-it-was-generation-ago-mobility-measured

The study confirms previous findings that America’s social mobility is low compared with many European countries. (In Denmark, a poor child has twice as much chance of making it to the top quintile as in America.) But it challenges several smaller recent studies that concluded that America had become less socially mobile.

This result has caused a huge stir, not least because it runs counter to public perceptions. A recent Gallup poll found that only 52% of Americans think there is plenty of opportunity for the average Joe to get ahead, down from 81% in 1998. It also jars with other circumstantial evidence. Several studies point to widening gaps between rich and poor in the kinds of factors you would expect to influence mobility, such as the quality of schools or parents’ investment of time and money in their children. Cross-country analyses also suggest there is an inverse relationship between income inequality and social mobility—a phenomenon that has become known as the “Great Gatsby” curve.

What is going on? One possibility is that social stratification takes time to become entrenched. In a new book, Gregory Clark, an economic historian at the University of California, Davis, who tracks mobility over hundreds of years by following surnames, reaches far more pessimistic conclusions (see article). Another, sunnier, explanation is that even as income gaps have widened over the past 30 years, other barriers to mobility, such as discrimination against women and blacks, have fallen.

Most likely, the answer lies in the nature of America’s inequality, whose main characteristic is the soaring share of overall income going to the top 1% (from 10% in 1980 to 22% in 2012). The correlation between vast wealth accruing to a tiny elite and the ability of people to move between the rest of the rungs of the income ladder may be small—at least for now.

Whatever the explanation, it would be unwise to take much comfort from this study. For a start, since the gap between top and bottom has widened, the consequences of an accident of birth have become bigger. Second, if the gains of growth are going mostly to those at the top, that bodes ill for those whose skills are less in demand. Many economists worry that living standards for the non-elite will stagnate for a long time.

Is your town a launchpad or a swamp?

Third, although social mobility has not changed much over time, it varies widely from place to place. In a second paper, the economists crunch their tax statistics by region. They find that the probability of a child born into the poorest fifth of the population in San Jose, California making it to the top is 12.9%, not much lower than in Denmark. In Charlotte, North Carolina it is 4.4%, far lower than anywhere else in the rich world.

This geographic prism also offers some pointers on what influences mobility. The economists found five factors that were correlated with differences in social mobility in different parts of America: residential segregation (whether by income or race); the quality of schooling; family structure (eg, how many children live with only one parent); “social capital” (such as taking part in community groups); and inequality (particularly income gaps among those outside the top 1%). Social mobility is higher in integrated places with good schools, strong families, lots of community spirit and smaller income gaps within the broad middle class. Not a bad agenda for politicians to push, if only they knew how.

All data is good data. But I saw the results of a much more practicle study a few years ago and the conclusion was, if people want to avoid poverty, 1) graduate from high school, 2) don't do drugs, and 3) don't have babies out of wedlock. Common sense to most people but sadly, common sense is not so common. I have family members who continue to violate all three of these rules and hence have given themselves little opportunies to be socially mobile.
 
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As a minority who has traveled and lived all around the world, I have my own personal scale of equality/diversity when it comes to race/religion/sexuality.

Global cities like Manhattan, SF, London, Berlin, Singapore, Sydney, are the 'fairest' places I have been. On a scale of 1-10, they would be the 10s....as good as it gets.

The worst is probably to be a blond haired blue eyed Christian in ISIS held territory. This is a 1

Indiana/Lafayette is probably around a 7.5.....typical for a midwestern college town. The way I see it, if you break it down into concentric circles.....the first ring of 50% are more or less color blind and will judge me fairly. Another 45% will stereotype me to my disadvantage, but fairly minor stuff that is easily overcome with an extra spurt of effort/thickenedskin. The truly racist is about 5%

Room for improvement, worth trying to improve, but also lets get some perspective before we go apeshit. There are far worse places in America where racism is much more deeply ingrained and pernicious

If I were back in a place like Lafayette, and I wanted to be socially aware and active, I would put equal or greater priorities on national issues like corrosive campaign financing in politics, gun control, improving general literacy and voter awareness, ensuring the social primacy of science and rationalism over religion and bigotry, enhancing industrial innovation and technical commercialization. Or global issues like climate change, resource enhancement and allocation, income inequality, greater rights for women (especially in Muslim societies).

Lots of great causes and things to improve in the world we live in. Racial equality is an important one, but I feel there are others that are just as important that have received far less attention

Great comments! I've been living in Switzerland for going on three years and have travelled all over Europe. I find Europeans more racist than Americans. One of their biggest faults is the fact that their leaders are still running from Hitler's ghost to their detriment. Here the "n-word" is Nazi which definitely turns heads. The other "n-word" draws virtually no reaction.
 
Merkel is indeed a German conservative, but she is also anti-guns, anti-death penalty, pro universal healthcare, pro social safety nets, pro-minorities, pro-asylum seekers

Conservative parties in western Europe are way to the left of Republicans. Possibly even left of the Democrats.

Merkel is clearly to the left of Hilary

the problem in the US is not left vs right politics. Its corruption within politics. German politics is clean. American politics isn't

I would have no problems voting for Eisenhower or Obama

Hilary or Romney....meh




"... Eisenhower or Obama" Total 180* opposite ends of the political spectrum, like night & day. That's some latitude.



Go Boilers!!!
 
Merkel is indeed a German conservative, but she is also anti-guns, anti-death penalty, pro universal healthcare, pro social safety nets, pro-minorities, pro-asylum seekers

Conservative parties in western Europe are way to the left of Republicans. Possibly even left of the Democrats.

Merkel is clearly to the left of Hilary

the problem in the US is not left vs right politics. Its corruption within politics. German politics is clean. American politics isn't

I would have no problems voting for Eisenhower or Obama

Hilary or Romney....meh


Socialism = The more goodies you promise, the more votes you get, reguardless of weather you deliver or not. I'll take capitalism every time. It's the only proven winner. I prefer the free fishing pole & lessons, over the free fish.



Zebco 33
 
Socialism = The more goodies you promise, the more votes you get, reguardless of weather you deliver or not. I'll take capitalism every time. It's the only proven winner. I prefer the free fishing pole & lessons, over the free fish.



Zebco 33


Dude, you are still living in the 1980s.

Nobody is trying to resurrect Lenin. The evil empire is dead. Capitalism has won. America schooled the USSR almost as thoroughly as Octeus did Hartman

Your sermon about the supremacy of capitalism over socialism is not even yesterday's news. Its news that is more than a quarter of a century old. Sure. In other news, it looks like Keady may have a shot to sign that high school basketball prodigy out of Gary. Goldie Hawn looks hot hosting the Oscars, etc, etc

The other advanced countries have long moved from the socialism vs capitalism framework. Its now about developing the best form of capitalism that delivers the most results, measured by quantifiable social indicators. Life expectancy, social mobility, GDP per capita, adult literacy, numeracy, infant mortality, incarceration rates, etc. America is not number one according to any of those indicators.

Have the intelligence and humility to look at what peer countries, or even those countries pulling ahead, are doing to improve their capitalist systems. Canada, Australia, Switzerland, Germany, the Nordic states are ahead in multiple social indicators. Singapore and Hong Kong are league leaders in capitalism and competitiveness. See what you can learn / copy / adapt from those countries. There's no shame in learning from others - those countries cribbed a lot from the US in the past.

Look at previous empires - Rome, Persia, China. Those empires were at their best when they were curious about the outside world and actively sought to bring innovation, whether it was sourced domestically or from foreign sources. Rot and decay WILL set in when an empire binges on its own kool-aid and worships some by-gone fabulousness while shutting out the rest of the world and shutting down its own innovators.

There's a big element of that in ISIS and their poisonous mutation of Islam, those whackos trying to resurrect 7th century medieval Arabia because they're fixated on the perfection of their prophet's long bygone world view. Same with far too many of the Greeks and Egyptians I meet....Greeks keep telling me about how they gave the world democracy and the Egyptians go on and on about how they invented civilization. I'm thinking 'so what? that has nothing to do with you. The guys that achieved that are long dead. Modern Greece and Egypt have done jack shit for a long time now'. Likewise, the current generation of Americans need to stop living in the glory days of 1945 and 1989, and rise to the challenges of today and tomorrow

PS. Eisenhower and Obama had one thing in common. They are free from the stench of corrosive big money, which is more than I can say of many of the presidential candidates for next year.
 
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Great comments! I've been living in Switzerland for going on three years and have travelled all over Europe. I find Europeans more racist than Americans. One of their biggest faults is the fact that their leaders are still running from Hitler's ghost to their detriment. Here the "n-word" is Nazi which definitely turns heads. The other "n-word" draws virtually no reaction.

I would think the largest north European cities (London, Paris, Berlin, Stockholm) are some of the least racist places in the world (as is Manhattan, the Bay area, etc). Its hard to compare broadly across two vast continents. Generally, I don't think of Europe as racist but some places like Poland and south Italy is pretty bad. Or take Asia, generally quite racist but some places like Singapore and Shanghai is pretty chill about race

I don't think America as being particularly racist. Its probably in the top 10% of least racist countries, but hey, America is about aspiring to be No. 1 and not just placing in the top 10%.
 
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I would also agree that white guilt is a problem with a large segment of white people.

Its almost like they are overcompensating for past racism or the remaining white racists

Two wrongs do not make a right. Racism is wrong, but so is overcompensating for the racism of others. You should not take on a burden that you don't deserve, and you should not assign a burden to other white people which they don't deserve. Its an unnecessary impediment to your own happiness

When you overcompensate, when you cave in to political correctness, when you start treating minorities with kid gloves, you may also inadvertently be fostering a victim complex.

That helps nobody
 
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Dude, you are still living in the 1980s.

Nobody is trying to resurrect Lenin. The evil empire is dead. Capitalism has won. America schooled the USSR almost as thoroughly as Octeus did Hartman

Your sermon about the supremacy of capitalism over socialism is not even yesterday's news. Its news that is more than a quarter of a century old. Sure. In other news, it looks like Keady may have a shot to sign that high school basketball prodigy they call Big Dog. Goldie Hawn looks hot hosting the Oscars, etc, etc

The other advanced countries have long moved from the socialism vs capitalism framework. Its now about developing the best form of capitalism that delivers the most results, measured by quantifiable social indicators. Life expectancy, social mobility, GDP per capita, adult literacy, numeracy, infant mortality, incarceration rates, etc. America is not number one according to any of those indicators.

Have the intelligence and humility to look at what peer countries, or even those countries pulling ahead, are doing to improve their capitalist systems. Canada, Australia, Switzerland, Germany, the Nordic states are ahead in multiple social indicators. Singapore and Hong Kong are league leaders in capitalism and competitiveness. See what you can learn / copy / adapt from those countries. There's no shame in learning from others - those countries cribbed a lot from the US in the past.

Look at previous empires - Rome, Persia, China. Those empires were at their best when they were curious about the outside world and actively sought to bring innovation, whether it was sourced domestically or from foreign sources. Rot and decay WILL set in when an empire binges on its own kool-aid and worships some by-gone fabulousness while shutting out the rest of the world and shutting down its own innovators.

There's a big element of that in ISIS and their poisonous mutation of Islam, those whackos trying to resurrect 7th century medieval Arabia because they're fixated on the perfection of their prophet's long bygone world view. Same with far too many of the Greeks and Egyptians I meet....Greeks keep telling me about how they gave the world democracy and the Egyptians go on and on about how they invented civilization. I'm thinking 'so what? that has nothing to do with you. The guys that achieved that are long dead. Modern Greece and Egypt have done jack shit for a long time now'. Likewise, the current generation of Americans need to stop living in the glory days of 1945 and 1989, and rise to the challenges of today and tomorrow

PS. Eisenhower and Obama had one thing in common. They are free from the stench of corrosive big money, which is more than I can say of many of the presidential candidates for next year.




"... Obama free from stench of corrosive big money,"

Whopper of the year
 
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A better phrasing would be 'relatively free'

The system itself is sick. Obama himself said as much, and he is for reversing Citizens United, which is absolutely the right thing to do

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/obama-nobody-has-clean-hands-on-campaign-finance/article/2536980
http://www.vox.com/2015/2/9/7992489/obama-citizens-united-constitutional-amendment


I know we never gave him a penny. We fully support conservatives & Republicans, & always have. Our political campaign donations actually set records in 2008 & 2012. Now we fully support the conservative presidential candidate, Hillary "Bosnian Sniper Fire/"Vast right-wing conspiracy" Clinton.



Sincerely

UAW, NEA, SEIU, Teamsters, AFL-CIO, ect., ect...
 
"... Obama free from stench of corrosive big money,"

Whopper of the year
I would love to go back almost 50 years ago as a youngster and listen more closely to Parker Dunham talking with my father about Ann Dunham. Parker lived just outside Kempton, IN . All I can recall was how upset Parker was and they are both deceased to gather the history

http://www.thedunhamhouse.com/
 
I know we never gave him a penny. We fully support conservatives & Republicans, & always have. Our political campaign donations actually set records in 2008 & 2012. Now we fully support the conservative presidential candidate, Hillary "Bosnian Sniper Fire/"Vast right-wing conspiracy" Clinton.



Sincerely

UAW, NEA, SEIU, Teamsters, AFL-CIO, ect., ect...


I'm no fan of the unions having undue influence in politics either

Instead of condoning the adversarial relationship between corporations and unions to spiral into an arms race in the sphere of political finance, one should look at more comprehensive solutions. Whether by evaluating alternative arrangements in benchmark countries or by devising a bi-partisan solution.
 
I would love to go back almost 50 years ago as a youngster and listen more closely to Parker Dunham talking with my father about Ann Dunham. Parker lived just outside Kempton, IN . All I can recall was how upset Parker was and they are both deceased to gather the history

http://www.thedunhamhouse.com/



Impressive. I bought his book, "Dreams from My Father". I also bought Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals". It sure is hard to lose, when you've automatically got the "early & often" vote locked up.



Sincerely

Mayor Daley
 
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I would also agree that white guilt is a problem with a large segment of white people.

Its almost like they are overcompensating for past racism or the remaining white racists

Two wrongs do not make a right. Racism is wrong, but so is overcompensating for the racism of others. You should not take on a burden that you don't deserve, and you should not assign a burden to other white people which they don't deserve. Its an unnecessary impediment to your own happiness

When you overcompensate, when you cave in to political correctness, when you start treating minorities with kid gloves, you may also inadvertently be fostering a victim complex.

That helps nobody

And it is truly evil when people reflect their white guilt on innocent white people. Accusing an innocent bystander of racism because the accuser feels guilt is as cowardly as it gets. If someone feels guilt for their own racist past, or because they don't feel they deserve the blessings they have received, then deal with it. Give all of your ill-gotten gains to those you have wronged. Don't compound your sins by falsely accusing people you don't even know of committing your sin. These people are far more guilty than they know.
 
What gets me is these swlf-entitled brats haven't the first clue what true racism is. Tell them to go talk to those that lived through the 60s and earlier ....

My longest and best friend on the planet is black and when he reads things like this he shakes his head and says " these nitwits need to spend an afternoon with my dad and get a dose of reality".
 
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What gets me is these swlf-entitled brats haven't the first clue what true racism is. Tell them to go talk to those that lived through the 60s and earlier ....

My longest and best friend on the planet is black and when he reads things like this he shakes his head and says " these nitwits need to spend an afternoon with my dad and get a dose of reality".
 
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