OT. Purdue Police
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Caption says “Body cam footage from Purdue police officer Jon Selke's arrest of Black Student Adonis Tuggle.”
Why point out he’s Black other than a cheap attempt at stirring things up? Why doesn’t it say “student Adonis Tuggle” instead?
Why point out he’s Black other than a cheap attempt at stirring things up? Why doesn’t it say “student Adonis Tuggle” instead?
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I agree with the ultimate conclusion, but there was some things the officer probably could have done better at the beginning to prevent this from escalating as quickly as it did. Hopefully they use this as a training opportunity to be better in these types of situations going forward.
Fair point. Playing devils advocate here but maybe because the initial protest on campus by the student body were based on the fact that he was being mistreated/targeted by police because of his skin color? The other stories on the topic that are linked below this article also refer to the student as being black in the headline. Agree though… seems unnecessary to call that out in the headline.
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pretty annoyed they didn't point out Adonis' gender or sex tbh
I got worse treatment during the West Lafayette street riots of 2000 after Purdue lost to Wisconsin.
The police caused panic and mass confusion by launching tear gas right into the middle our our peaceful riot. I couldn’t breath. If only we all had iPhones back then the police could have been brought to justice.
The police caused panic and mass confusion by launching tear gas right into the middle our our peaceful riot. I couldn’t breath. If only we all had iPhones back then the police could have been brought to justice.
Sure and that’s fair. I just don’t understand why everybody gets a label, specifically when those doing the labeling may not have have the best intentions.
Again compliance ends this. The student did not do what he was told. The incident never escalates if he just cooperates.
The cop arrived on the scene with a report of a domestic type dispute and was trying to pull the woman from the car.
The first thing he did was ask Tuggle to step away from the woman and towards the back of the car … he wasn’t even going to cuff him initially, but the guy refused to even do that.
At that point, the cop has to be concerned that Tuggle might pose a larger risk … seems justified IMO.
Many seem to conflate identity and their gender/sex/race/ethnicity etc. Those characteristics don't define who one is as a human and it's rather insulting to label another using those characteristics rather than their heart, thoughts, interests, ideas, passions, etc.
And are we just supposed to guess the pronouns? TIC
Bc how else do you deflect peoples wrongful behavior?!?! I can act anyway I want and do whatever I want. And if I’m caught or dealt with the only reason is bc of racist cops.
Family disturbances can be the most dangerous situations the police deal with.
At the time he said he was going to handcuff him I didn’t see him as a direct threat to anyone. Just feel like the officer could have tried to talk to him a bit more. At the same time though I don’t think the suspect did himself any favors. Right off the bat he’s cussing and not really listening. Either party really showed the other any respect and that’s where we get into problems with these situations.
At the end of the day I don’t think chargers against the officer were warranted but hopefully they can use this as a training opportunity.
Look I'm sensitive to all involved and don't want to trivialize anyone involved but when he's resisting and the cop starts using force and the kid says to the girlfriend call 911, I about lost it.
Compliance doesn’t always end these. Countless videos in other situations attest to this.
Wrong! Almost 100% of those videos there isn’t compliance.
not always, but many people in the United States simply do not understand how to deal with police. I saw this for years in the residence halls. when the police show up, it isn't an opportunity to start an open dialogue or attempt to compromise with the police officer. shut up and do exactly as they say, or they will assume you are a threat (even if you are not).
as you said, there are examples that show this doesn't always happen, but in a country of 330 million people with hundreds of thousands of police interactions every day, you almost certainly will get some bad videos or some incompetent or terrible officers on camera. it's, statistically speaking, a sure thing. it's going to happen. the only question is if its going to happen to you, which again the numbers suggest overwhelmingly that it won't if you just comply with what the police officer is telling you to do.
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Compliance almost always ends peacefully. Countless videos that are never shown prove this.
IMPD alone take close to 3,000 calls a day. Just like this situation. The media and “victims” will show you whatever part of a video they want you to see. And I’m certain people don’t understand what compliance means. Can still hear ppl yelling “he’s not resisting” after a guy took us on a 20 minute pursuit then a foot pursuit. Throws a gun. And four officers can’t get his wrists back to cuff him. But he wasnot resisting lol.
Officer didn’t need to have such a short fuse imo. Could’ve attempted to empathize with the guy and been a little more patient. But by textbook definition he did his job correctly. Some cops lack the social skills to effectively intervene without escalating in a lot of cases.
He took her phone and her wallet because "she's not listening to me". He's the problem right there and as soon as the cop heard that you know he had to get him away from her.
The fact that she backed off and wanted to support him is common and probably didn't carry a lot of weight. Think if the cop backed off let them go on their way and the girl was found dead 4 hours later. He probably be out of a job forever.
WD
Because it’s 1960 again and apparently race is the defining factor in every aspect of life. We’ve regressed and it’s an utter shame. Shame on those who use race to define our society and shame on those who profit off of race-baiting. We’re not perfect as a people but we’re a hell of a lot better than the coverage otherwise suggests.
exponent articles in 2024 gonna have a picture on the front page of some freshman eating breakfast and be like "Picture: Alex Anderton (he/him/his) of Nobseville, Indiana, the First of His Name, cishet white male with ancestry going back to Germany and Wales, formerly of they/them pronouns now currently using he/him pronouns, abled-bodied, brown hair though blonder during the summer solstice, Pokemon master of Gyarados, and lives in Owen Hall though identifies as a Shreve Hall Beaver, is seen here eating a bagel at the Purdue Memorial Union."
I can think of worse things. Dont ever think about letting the meter run out of time on campus. They might throw you in jail for life right after pulling some Gestapo tactics!!
That’s pretty regressive of you to think we’ll be able to use the term “bagel” in 2024.
very true, we'll probably be calling them "bread holes" or something that isn't rooted in islamaphobia or bigotry or whatever
always thought it was crappy that they could vandalize (chalk) my tires and use that as their time stamp in the two hour parking spots.
Please share one… maybe your definition and my definition of compliance are completely different.
He reached behind his back. To me it looked like he was reaching for something and the officers have no idea what he is reaching for. All of this being said, I don’t feel good with how this was handled, but it’s easy for me to say this while typing on my phone.
And to compound the issue, have you noticed a reluctance of the press to mention “Black suspect” in describing a perp search. Just this morning on Fox Business it took them a long time to mention the perp who shot people at the Bronx subway? Funny how they can give a description that perp was wearing a uniform with gas mask but not say Black until later. How should the public help identifying the perp on the lose if they don’t know what to look for?
He was pulling his pants up while crawling on the ground and he was murdered for it.
That story will quickly disappear from MSM. A black shooter does not fit the popular narrative that only deranged conservative white males are mass shooters. Kind of like the way the guy who drove through all the people at the parade quickly disappeared from public view.
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