OT: Net Neutrality

[ghost_of_d.]

Surprise, surprise. Republicans lied and fed a false narrative about Net Neutrality, one of Democrats taking over control of the internet and interfering with any attempts to defeat it.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/vbympa/net-neutrality-fcc-inspector-general-report

Internal FCC documents obtained by Motherboard using a Freedom of Information Act request show that the independent, nonpartisan FCC Office of Inspector General—acting on orders from Congressional Republicans—investigated the claim that Obama interfered with the FCC’s net neutrality process and found it was nonsense. This Republican narrative of net neutrality as an Obama-led takeover of the internet, then, was wholly refuted by an independent investigation and its findings were not made public prior to Thursday’s vote.

Not only did they lie to the public - as they normally do - they blocked the findings of an independent review from being made public until after they voted to repeal NN.

 

[BBG]

Surprise, surprise. Republicans lied and fed a false narrative about Net Neutrality, one of Democrats taking over control of the internet and interfering with any attempts to defeat it.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/vbympa/net-neutrality-fcc-inspector-general-report



Not only did they lie to the public - as they normally do - they blocked the findings of an independent review from being made public until after they voted to repeal NN.

Sorry but that site you linked is crap. Besides it's not like the Republicans lied about premiums not going up. Amirite?

 

[atmafola]

There are long-standing laws that prohibit the types of behavior you describe, and require nothing of the sort we've seen by the Net Neutrality crowd.

Enforcement of the Clayton Act, Sherman Act (and others) solve those issues.

ok since you bring in Sherman act. Explain to me what parts of Sherman act or precedents decided can be used to protect net neutrality and not just handle the problems of net neutrality in general. And please why aren't we using Sherman act to bust Duke energy and other local monopoly energy providers.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

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Pre-2015: The internet was mostly built with pipes that were neutral. But, some ISP's were starting to misbehave. They'd look inside the pipes, & say, "Nice content you have here. It'd be a shame if we played favorites & took bribes/payoffs to prefer your competitors."

So, to protect the mostly neutral net, in 2015, we formulated into regulations what was the healthy normal behavior that was starting to fall apart.

An analogy would be: Let's say everyone in your house just doesn't crap on the kitchen floor from 1960-2013. Then, you find some instances where, in fact, someone is occasionally crapping on the kitchen floor. So, in 2015, you make it a house rule, with penalties, to not do that. Then, in 2017, "a shit pie" lover takes over and "returns" us to the "pre-2015" status."

This is even dumber than your beach analogy.

 

[Purdue85]

ok since you bring in Sherman act. Explain to me what parts of Sherman act or precedents decided can be used to protect net neutrality and not just handle the problems of net neutrality in general. And please why aren't we using Sherman act to bust Duke energy and other local monopoly energy providers.

Look, you've beat this dead horse enough. If you're unaware of how the various acts address monopolies, my response on an internet forum will not be sufficient. Ever.

You made your point. You're desperately clinging to an unnecessary overreach of the federal government, in the hope it will to give you something. It won't.

Net Neutrality was the law of the land for 2 1/2 years. It did nothing.

If you need the government to help you feel like you're saved from some imaginary evil, nobody will convince you otherwise. You need big government. I don't. I'm going to live my life. You're going to look for the government to help you live yours. I get it.

 

[Purdue85]

ok since you bring in Sherman act. Explain to me what parts of Sherman act or precedents decided can be used to protect net neutrality and not just handle the problems of net neutrality in general. And please why aren't we using Sherman act to bust Duke energy and other local monopoly energy providers.

By the way, who controls and regulates the public utilities?

Uh, .... yeah.

 

[kevindub]

Sorry for the political post, but this might end up impacting all if us.

If you hadn't heard, the vote to repeal Net Neutrality passed yesterday and opens the door for ISPs to pull some major shenanigans on us consumers.

Things can get so bad that it possibly can even impact your access to this site and any others, unless you pay more.

I encourage all of you to research this and then call your congressmen to try and get this stopped (I'd you oppose it).

Again sorry for the political and dire post, I just thought it was important enough, for all of us, that it needed brought up.

Thanks. Now we can go back to bickering

Say good by to smaller one owner businesses to make way for big business to regain their lost internet advantage.

 

[mathboy]

Surprise, surprise. Republicans lied and fed a false narrative about Net Neutrality, one of Democrats taking over control of the internet and interfering with any attempts to defeat it.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/vbympa/net-neutrality-fcc-inspector-general-report



Not only did they lie to the public - as they normally do - they blocked the findings of an independent review from being made public until after they voted to repeal NN.

I'm pretty neutral here, but man, you got to quit going to these garbage sites. Holy cow those guys are nuts.

 

[atmafola]

By the way, who controls and regulates the public utilities?

Uh, .... yeah.

some governmental entity?

 

[Hausta01]

Luckily, for people with only 1 or 2 internet providers via landline (like my in-laws), there are satellite and mobile options. My aforementioned in-laws make use of the mobile option as an addition to their cell phone bill for a whole $10/month. The number of people outside of cellular service is extremely small.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

Luckily, for people with only 1 or 2 internet providers via landline (like my in-laws), there are satellite and mobile options. My aforementioned in-laws make use of the mobile option as an addition to their cell phone bill for a whole $10/month. The number of people outside of cellular service is extremely small.

I think that helps, which was my point about 5G earlier.

I really don’t think that anyone on this thread can know exactly how this will play out and whether the net impact will be positive or negative. It is a complex issue with a lot of uncertainty.