Fewer rings .. behind Jordan in per .. and most importantly, failed in 2011..
If we are using the rings method then it is Bill Russell.
But Russell wasn’t anywhere near the statistical giant jordan was. He simply wasn’t nearly as responsible for the Celtics rings as jordan was for the bulls rings. I think you look at a combination of rings as best player, stats and awards .. you know the idea of more than one variable?
So you’re the kind of guy who is going to bypass rings as leader of a team, PER (statistical aggregate) and awards and go to “the 94 bulls only lost two more games than the 93 bulls?”
Great response moron
LeBron has four rings man and he did it outside of the expansions era. Additionally, he has won a ring with three different teams. You can change his teammates, his coaches, his position, teams needs, etc and all he does is win. You used the win shares example in your original argument but only applied it to the years MJ won a championship. Also, in the majority of the seasons that MJ and LeBron played, they did not win it all. So yes, regular seasons matter and so does the 2011 season. Regardless, if their is a complete NBA redraft of all players and teams I’m talking LeBron with pick 1.01.
I guarantee you Larry Bird will be the first person to tell you LeBron is better than him. It’s laughable that you think he has had a better career than LeBron and that comment does not deserve anything more than LOL.
Once again we are talking careers and not just championship seasons. I could spend all day talking about how MJ wasn’t a good three point shooter except when they moved the line up but I’m not.
Lebron James has led three teams to titles … AD was the most statistically prominent player on that years team. Lebron should have led 5 teams to rings not 3.
So your claim about Michael Jordan not being a good three point shooter falls below the question … how did a 2013 Spurs team with 0 hall of famers in their prime win a championship over lebron James?
See you don’t know.. you probably think Rodman was only a power forward. Steph curry isn’t even quick compared to some of the elite points of all time. He’s molasses slow compared to isiah and couldn’t do what Johnson did in that clip
LeBron has been to ten NBA finals and was the favorite in only three of them. LeBron has beat better teams and sent home way more all-stars, Jordan has been bounced in three first rounds including getting swept multiple times. This debate can go on and on.
What you said doesn’t matter … you’re responding with things that don’t change that one guy has led more teams do rings and had 6 of the 14 most consequential championship seasons in nba history and the other guy has 3 as best player, should have 5, and the second most consequential title season he had is only 23rd in win shares in championship seasons.
Michael Jordan is the all time leader in PER dude..
LeBron had the higher per prior to the 2020 season. Regardless, if Kevin Love and Kyrie don’t go down in 2015 then LeBron has five titles.
Rings as leader of a team and what your impact was on those rings matter more than anything you’ve brought up and Jordan has all that on lebron
So you’re saying that getting swept by a Boston Celtics team with 5 hall of famers when you have 11 dudes from the mall is worse than shooting 35.6% against Bruce Bowen in his late 30s… when Bowen was in the league in his late 20s when MJ was winning rings and nobody knew who he was? That’s your big point?
Jordan and the Bulls kept getting beat by all the best EC teams until they got old. Look at who Jordan beat in the finals. Washed up Magic, Drexler and Terry Porter???, Barkley, Shawn Kemp lol?, Malone and Stockton?
You still haven’t answered why Russell isn’t on that list and why lebrons second best title season is 23rd
Magic Johnson was 31 and isiah Thomas was 29 in 1991. Jordan won his last ring at 35. Jordan won 5 titles and 3 mvps past the age of 29, so who was old?
Where as here is the win shares from the regular season the last year jordan lost in 1990 to Detroit ..
What separates Steph from any other player is his range and his handle. Rodman could never have guarded him.
The handle is less relevant when they can get into your body unless you have elite footspeed like isiah. He doesn’t.
You can’t over play Steph when he can just run you into a screen, or hit a step back 26 footer.
This is all imaginary bullshit. Like I said guys grabbed and pushed around screeners .. also.. when your screen man is dale Davis .. he’s not a three point threat so now everyone runs to Steph.. what.. he gets a mid range jumper for Davis with players recovering.
