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[ANDY597]

Walters will probably be here next year but might as well dream about greener pastures. Don't bring up Walters we know he isn't it.

I'll go with Tyson Helton pros wins, had Bailey Zappi, threw for million yards have seen Westen Kentucky on tv has teams looking good. He is from Gainesville soo don't want another Brohm issue

 

[asby]

Get the James Madison head coach and OC....They put 70 on North Carolina on the road....

 

[PaBoiler78]

Walters will probably be here next year but might as well dream about greener pastures. Don't bring up Walters we know he isn't it.

I'll go with Tyson Helton pros wins, had Bailey Zappi, threw for million yards have seen Westen Kentucky on tv has teams looking good. He is from Gainesville soo don't want another Brohm issue

they have the 123 rd rated D in the country, I'll go w/ Dickert

 

[pboiler18]

Walters will probably be here next year but might as well dream about greener pastures. Don't bring up Walters we know he isn't it.

I'll go with Tyson Helton pros wins, had Bailey Zappi, threw for million yards have seen Westen Kentucky on tv has teams looking good. He is from Gainesville soo don't want another Brohm issue

Pretty sure he said no to us last time.

 

[BBG]

Get the Army coach.. yeah I'm a tad bias but he has had that program in good shape for quite a few years.

Realistically, I don't have a name per se... but go the Tiller route.. find someone that has around 10 years left to coach, is successful at a "lower" level team/conference.. and build some success.

Also I would LOVE to see Brees as our QB coach.. initially I wanted to see him as a head coach as he is smart enough to be Joe Tiller 2.0.. but.. I am over hiring someone with no experience whatsoever.. especially since the rebuild we will have to go through is probably the worst it has ever been.

Whomever the next coach is, they have a Grand Canyon sized whole to dig out of.

 

[MightyMike55]

Get the Army coach.. yeah I'm a tad bias but he has had that program in good shape for quite a few years.

Realistically, I don't have a name per se... but go the Tiller route.. find someone that has around 10 years left to coach, is successful at a "lower" level team/conference.. and build some success.

Also I would LOVE to see Brees as our QB coach.. initially I wanted to see him as a head coach as he is smart enough to be Joe Tiller 2.0.. but.. I am over hiring someone with no experience whatsoever.. especially since the rebuild we will have to go through is probably the worst it has ever been.

Whomever the next coach is, they have a Grand Canyon sized whole to dig out of.

A couple names come to mind this morning,

Drew Brees
Brian Brohm
Paul Chryst

 

[FLAG HUNTER]

Get the Army coach.. yeah I'm a tad bias but he has had that program in good shape for quite a few years.

Realistically, I don't have a name per se... but go the Tiller route.. find someone that has around 10 years left to coach, is successful at a "lower" level team/conference.. and build some success.

Also I would LOVE to see Brees as our QB coach.. initially I wanted to see him as a head coach as he is smart enough to be Joe Tiller 2.0.. but.. I am over hiring someone with no experience whatsoever.. especially since the rebuild we will have to go through is probably the worst it has ever been.

Whomever the next coach is, they have a Grand Canyon sized whole to dig out of.

Unless the team is turned around and does alot better, the only way Purdue will be decent next year is to get a new coach and assistants as soon as possible, otherwise recruits will decommit and players will leave. Will Bobinski realize what big mistake he made, get money for a buy out and try to bring program back ? Or will he say lets give him another year?

 

[BBG]

Unless the team is turned around and does alot better, the only way Purdue will be decent next year is to get a new coach and assistants as soon as possible, otherwise recruits will decommit and players will leave. Will Bobinski realize what big mistake he made, get money for a buy out and try to bring program back ? Or will he say lets give him another year?

If things continue the way they are and he gets another year, I think you are spot on that not only will we see a lot of recruits go elsewhere, but a mass exodus from the current roster.

If we finish with 2 .. or even 3 wins .. and Bobo does nothing, our program may never recover.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

A couple names come to mind this morning,

Drew Brees
Brian Brohm
Paul Chryst

No.

 

[RDUBoiler]

A couple names come to mind this morning,

Drew Brees
Brian Brohm
Paul Chryst

Definitely not Brees since he has no experience coaching at the college level at all. Brian Brohm has never been a long-term head coach. I don't know about Chryst.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Definitely not Brees since he has no experience coaching at the college level at all. Brian Brohm has never been a long-term head coach. I don't know about Chryst.

Chryst is a non-recruiter.

 

[TC4THREE]

So far this thread illustrates my point that you don't make a change just to make a change. If you want to change coaches, you better have a good candidate that you can land identified. You don't just cut bait and then try to figure it out.

I'm not sure there is a great fit for Purdue every year. I can't tell you who is or isn't but it's the AD's job to do it and he can't miss. It's the most important decision he makes.

 

[Bippus33]

If things continue the way they are and he gets another year, I think you are spot on that not only will we see a lot of recruits go elsewhere, but a mass exodus from the current roster.

If we finish with 2 .. or even 3 wins .. and Bobo does nothing, our program may never recover.

Once H.S. coaches,recruits and family members of recruits, realize that a coach is incompetent, it's over.
We are near or at that point now.
If CRW could win 4 more games this season, you would have to keep him as in a weird way, he would have shown that he corrected his teams course.
At best, I see a 2-10 team as it stands now...

 

[RossMackey]

So far this thread illustrates my point that you don't make a change just to make a change. If you want to change coaches, you better have a good candidate that you can land identified. You don't just cut bait and then try to figure it out.

I'm not sure there is a great fit for Purdue every year. I can't tell you who is or isn't but it's the AD's job to do it and he can't miss. It's the most important decision he makes.

A smart AD will be working quietly but diligently now— to begin identifying possible successors…
We all recognize that a change happening this season is highly unlikely, therefore it’s an excellent time to begin the research on all options in order to be ready once it’s obvious that CRW is not the answer.

That is scant consolation for the disaster of the present, but I’d hope that Bobo has this mindset.

If there was any lesson to be learned from the fiasco that was Brohm’s abandonment of Purdue— this is it.

 

[Jaycee79]

Get the check book out and hire Jon Gruden. You want drama. Wait until Chucky is roaming the sidelines.

 

[bonefish1]

A couple names come to mind this morning,

Drew Brees
Brian Brohm
Paul Chryst

Can we quit with the crazy idea of Brees as a HC. The guy has zero experience. Yeh, every Purdue fan loves him but that wears off quickly.
If he wants to be a OC or QB coach, fine, but now way at HC.

 

[bonefish1]

So far this thread illustrates my point that you don't make a change just to make a change. If you want to change coaches, you better have a good candidate that you can land identified. You don't just cut bait and then try to figure it out.

I'm not sure there is a great fit for Purdue every year. I can't tell you who is or isn't but it's the AD's job to do it and he can't miss. It's the most important decision he makes.

I'm sure (at least, I'm pretty sure) that if MBob were thinking of making a change, he'd already be putting out feelers for who his hot list is and then who on that list would be interested. This of course is all done very confidentially.

 

[TC4THREE]

Can we quit with the crazy idea of Brees as a HC. The guy has zero experience. Yeh, every Purdue fan loves him but that wears off quickly.
If he wants to be a OC or QB coach, fine, but now way at HC.

I can't imagine he has any interest in it anyway. Why kill yourself with the life of a D-1 head coach when you are set for life and can spend all the time you want with your wife and kids? He's already involved with the collective I think and I'm sure whenever he wants to show up on campus he can make a phone call and make it happen. I think he also probably spends time with different investments and businesses.
As you said, it's not a serious suggestion.

 

[PaBoiler78]

I'm sure (at least, I'm pretty sure) that if MBob were thinking of making a change, he'd already be putting out feelers for who his hot list is and then who on that list would be interested. This of course is all done very confidentially.

still think CRW stays but will be told to make changes to his staff ( 1st step )

 

[IronChefBBQ]

It will be interesting to continue to watch how the former Oregon St Coach does at MSU. Off to a really good start so far…

 

[rhendryx]

still think CRW stays but will be told to make changes to his staff ( 1st step )

I agree with this. I think it saves us some “dead money” and gives him another chance to get the program going in the right direction.

 

[pu1985]

still think CRW stays but will be told to make changes to his staff ( 1st step )

The problem is: what decent OC or DC would take that risk/job with the current state of the program? It may be a one year gig.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

The problem is: what decent OC or DC would take that risk/job with the current state of the program? It may be a one year gig.

Exactly. It will be like Hazell hiring the guy from the high school in Nebraska his last season

 

[New Pal Boiler]

I agree with this. I think it saves us some “dead money” and gives him another chance to get the program going in the right direction.

It saves $3 million to let him tank the program for a 3rd year instead of firing him now.

 

[bonefish1]

Can we stop talking about saving money and dead money and buyouts, etc. Money is irrelevant to us, the fan, at this level.
Sure, we may look at $3M and say "damn, that's a lot of money!" (because 99.9% of use are nowhere close to making $3M) but the concept that it's somehow relevant to making coaching decisions just isn't true.
MBob and the administration know that the going rate for a name P5 coach to come to Purdue is going to be in the $4-6M range with a buyout in the $15M. It's just market dynamics and supply/demand. It has zero impact on the fan other than to get big-eyed at what a guy can make.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Can we stop talking about saving money and dead money and buyouts, etc. Money is irrelevant to us, the fan, at this level.
Sure, we may look at $3M and say "damn, that's a lot of money!" (because 99.9% of use are nowhere close to making $3M) but the concept that it's somehow relevant to making coaching decisions just isn't true.
MBob and the administration know that the going rate for a name P5 coach to come to Purdue is going to be in the $4-6M range with a buyout in the $15M. It's just market dynamics and supply/demand. It has zero impact on the fan other than to get big-eyed at what a guy can make.

I wouldn’t say it’s “irrelevant.”

If a group of whales agree to pony up an additional $9 million to get rid of Walters, that is $9 million less than they can contribute to NIL, JPC, etc.

Having said that, letting Walters damage the program for another full year to save $3 million seems insane, if you know he’s not the guy.

 

[qazplm]

If things continue the way they are and he gets another year, I think you are spot on that not only will we see a lot of recruits go elsewhere, but a mass exodus from the current roster.

If we finish with 2 .. or even 3 wins .. and Bobo does nothing, our program may never recover.

Lol you can recover in a few seasons if you commit to paying players and get off the high horse our school is on about that.

 

[pboiler18]

I wouldn’t say it’s “irrelevant.”

If a group of whales agree to pony up an additional $9 million to get rid of Walters, that is $9 million less than they can contribute to NIL, JPC, etc.

Having said that, letting Walters damage the program for another full year to save $3 million seems insane, if you know he’s not the guy.

It’s not a lump sum payment. If you can’t squeeze 3$mil per year out each year over the next 3 years to get rid of him you should get out of the big time football business.

Doesn’t need a big donor.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

It’s not a lump sum payment. If you can’t squeeze 3$mil per year out each year over the next 3 years to get rid of him you should get out of the big time football business.

Doesn’t need a big donor.

I know it’s not a lump sum, but that $3 Million a year is $3 million a year that could have been used on better football players. Like Nic Scourton or Deion Burks, for example.

 

[pboiler18]

I know it’s not a lump sum, but that $3 Million a year is $3 million a year that could have been used on better football players. Like Nic Scourton or Deion Burks, for example.

Can it though?

Still fuzzy on what the actual rules are on what the school can fund and can’t. As of last year it had to be 100% collective. The school can’t contribute there.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Can it though?

Still fuzzy on what the actual rules are on what the school can fund and can’t. As of last year it had to be 100% collective. The school can’t contribute there.

Ok so that’s $3 million a year NOT going into the collective, that otherwise could.

Until we get our Billionaire Boiler Benefactor, the money is finite.


Again, I’m not saying we should hang onto a dumpster fire coach to save $3 million a year, just pointing out that the $3 million a year could be used more efficiently…

 

[bonefish1]

I wouldn’t say it’s “irrelevant.”

If a group of whales agree to pony up an additional $9 million to get rid of Walters, that is $9 million less than they can contribute to NIL, JPC, etc.

Having said that, letting Walters damage the program for another full year to save $3 million seems insane, if you know he’s not the guy.

Hypothetical so play along:
If MBob ran into Urban Meyer or Nick Saban at the local Waffle House and either of them said: "I'll come coach Purdue for $8M/year",
would MBob do it?

 

[pboiler18]

Hypothetical so play along:
If MBob ran into Urban Meyer or Nick Saban at the local Waffle House and either of them said: "I'll come coach Purdue for $8M/year",
would MBob do it?

Yes.

Would never happen but he’d sign them up in a heartbeat.

 

[bonefish1]

Yes.

Would never happen but he’d sign them up in a heartbeat.

So that's the point. Money isn't a problem for Purdue.

 

[pboiler18]

So that's the point. Money isn't a problem for Purdue.

Not as much as most here would lead you to believe. A full RA is worth about $10mil more in ticket sales than an 1/3rd empty one.

You can fire this coach and pay for the next one with the delta in that ticket revenue in selling 42k seats vs 62k seats. Seems like a no brainer to move on to me.

I think we could pay a coach $10mil if we wanted to and he was deemed worth it. Once upon a time Brohm cracked the top 10 highest paid coaches that year after he flirted with Tennessee. Money is not the issue anymore.

 

[PaBoiler78]

Hypothetical so play along:
If MBob ran into Urban Meyer or Nick Saban at the local Waffle House and either of them said: "I'll come coach Purdue for $8M/year",
would MBob do it?

Don't think Urban would come to Purdue for any amount. Couple years ago when we were looking for a coach, he said on that pre game show he was on that Purdue is a very hard place to be successful at

 

[pboiler18]

Don't think Urban would come to Purdue for any amount. Couple years ago when we were looking for a coach, he said on that pre game show he was on that Purdue is a very hard place to be successful at

Of course he wouldn’t. If he came back he could name his price and destination. I think he does come back when ND cycles out Freeman.

Purdue is a hard place to be successful. Not a state school in a 3 Team P4 state with limited local talent. We have had better players than our record says but it takes the right scheme and culture fit to work here IMO.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

So that's the point. Money isn't a problem for Purdue.

Your fairytale doesn’t disprove what I said. It’s still $3 million that we can’t spend elsewhere.

 

[IronChefBBQ]

#1 by a good margin on my list would be Andy Ludwig, OC at Utah…

 

[pboiler18]

#1 by a good margin on my list would be Andy Ludwig, OC at Utah…

Why? That’s not really an offensive school