Chart #2: Encounters at the border. That's the statistic that measures how many people tried to get in but were turned away. Highest by far under Biden; relatively equal under other administrations:
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Here's an interesting set of charts by the Libertarian Cato Institute. Fear mongering aside?
Citizens far and away commit the higher ratio of crimes that lead to incarceration compared to their population percentage, followed by illegal immigrants, followed by legal immigrants.
https://www.cato.org/publications/i...migrants-their-numbers-demographics-countries
Citizens far and away commit the higher ratio of crimes that lead to incarceration compared to their population percentage, followed by illegal immigrants, followed by legal immigrants.
https://www.cato.org/publications/i...migrants-their-numbers-demographics-countries
You've said this before. Do you have any video to prove it? It's your last gasp to explain how it wasn't the rioter's fault. They were provoked.
Please include video showing how munitions were fired at the protesters before they stormed the barricades and broke through the police lines on the perimeter.
- And paraded through the halls of Congress with Confederate flags.
- And defecated in the halls of Congress.
- And chanted that they wanted to hang the Vice President and the Speaker of the House. While looking for them.
- And smashed through barricades and windows with flag poles.
It's all so incredibly pathetic.
And I truly hope
See how that works?
- You never have to feel their pain of having a child raped or murdered by an illegal Biden "let in."
- You never have to feel their pain of having a child raped or murdered by an illegal Trump "let in."
- You never have to feel their pain of having a child raped or murdered by an American citizen.
Two charts for you - of note - immigration and deportations were way down during the Covid- year, 2020.
Deportations were by far the highest under Obama. Definitely more under Trump years than Biden, though 2024 (not in this chart) has been higher under Biden than Trump:
Your original post was on HARMFUL LANGUAGE.
You, who acuse others of straying from the topic, are getting a long way from Harmful language. I imagine that is so because I more than proved my point that Biden's language was BY FAR more harmful.
During a 2019 Democratic presidential primary debate, President Biden said that the United States is a country that tells people struggling under oppression or poor conditions, "You should come,"
And come they did
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THAT'S THE "HARMFUL LANGUAGE?"
That's practically the quote from the Statue of Liberty:
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Good lord; are well-meaning Americans really that dissuaded by Trump's constant anti-immigrant screeds that they've completely forgotten this country's values?
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THAT'S THE "HARMFUL LANGUAGE?"
That's practically the quote from the Statue of Liberty
You are just being silly now, because I have proved my point. You don't like admitting you are wrong do you?
This time it was the next US President saying it. And here they came some wearing Biden shirts.
Are you saying border encounters did not skyrocket during his admin as a result of his dangerous rehtoric & policies??
That is what he's saying. The "peacefully and patriotically " line is also used in J6 conversations but this one is the fallback position.
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What hath Trump wrought?
How many MAGA supporters on this board are also a fan of THIS sentiment?^^
What hath Trump wrought?
- A supposedly sane poster considers Biden accurately paraphrasing the Statue of Liberty as the most harmful language/rhetoric he can find Biden making about immigration.
- A November, 2022 Tweet from the Trump-backed Minnesota U.S. Senate candidate for this November:
How many MAGA supporters on this board are also a fan of THIS sentiment?^^
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What hath Trump wrought?
- A supposedly sane poster considers Biden accurately paraphrasing the Statue of Liberty as the most harmful language/rhetoric he can find Biden making about immigration.
- A November, 2022 Tweet from the Trump-backed Minnesota U.S. Senate candidate for this November:
How many MAGA supporters on this board are also a fan of THIS sentiment?^^
You said Trump language on J6 was dangerous.
I said Biden's was more so.
After Biden said come....did they come?
Heck YES they did.
Once here did, some of his invitees
Commit crimes, murder & rapes?
Heck yes they did.
Tell me again how rape, murder and crime Biden's language caused is NOT more dangerous than Trump's?
Again, you can't admit you are wrong, when you clearly are.
Yes, and I've posted it before.
This isn't the best video, but it's a time laps. You can see the protestors gather in. Then there was a whole lot of nothing until you see smoke coming from the crowd which was munitions thrown by the CP. It even took a while of that before they got pissed enough to fight back.
The second video, not the first.
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Actually, I have clearly stated that Trump's has consistently, unequivocally repeated conspiracy theory, election denialism, inflammatory language for many years.
- He spoke of "rigged elections" leading up to his 2016 victory - stated that the upcoming election was going to be rigged, but completely dropped that mantra the second he found out he had won.
- Then, leading up to the 2020 election he re-asserted it. When the votes were counted he regularly shouted it from the highest rooftops, even though he knew it wasn't true (see indictment/see Trump personally handwritten note “just say that the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the Republican congressmen,”) and had every single lawsuit thrown out of court, confirming that he was simply rallying the crazies on his behalf.
- And on J6 he follows a stream of speakers that spew this horrible vitriol. In fact, he immediately follows Rudy Guiliani on stage, and immediately congratulates Rudy on his great speech with Trump standing next to the stage, as he hears Rudy exhort them to have "trial by combat."
- Then Trump on J6 states to the then-boiling crowd:
- "We won this election, and we won it by a landslide."
- "We will stop the steal."
- "We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn't happen."
- "If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore."
- "We're going to walk down to the Capitol and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them."
- Now, leading up to this election, he is repeating his old inflammatory lies from 2020 and doubling down with similar new ones for the 2024 election.
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I have noticed the length of your posts increase when you encounter a poster who gets the better of you.
Lol....got a long one here. 🤡
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So you have no substantive response.
You have no example of "Biden's harmful language" on immigration beyond when he paraphrased the Statue of Liberty.
You have no comment on the consistent, extraordinarily harmful, election denialism by Trump over the past ten years.
There's you bottom-line summary in short form.
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Look, that IS NOT TRUE. You’re either lying or you don’t understand the situation. As your link says “Encounters at the border” include migrants apprehended and migrants deemed inadmissible. These people are playing word games. A migrant “apprehended” is technically “arrested” and placed on “parole" with a date to appear in immigration court. This is commonly called “catch and release.”
And “migrants deemed inadmissible” are not pushed back into Mexico. They are detained, hosed, fed until they can be deported. Biden has allowed three times more illegals into our country than Trump did (link):
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