Ohio State, MSU, UM, and PSU and Purdue

[TwinDegrees2]

Looking at these four schools, they've all been to the top of the mountain, and most will probably see the apex again at some point.

In the opinions of those who post here, what would it take for Purdue to join that elite group and would the Alumni with the money it would take be willing to spend to get the program to that level?

All four of those schools have boosters who spend gazillions to make their school something special, from the players they recruit, to the coaches they hire, to the facilities.

What is the REAL reason Purdue isn't there right now, and what is the reason for trying to compete with a few three star but mostly two star players and in my opinion, falsely expecting a high level of success.

In no way will I knock these kids because I know they all want to succeed, but we all know with no more talent than has been brought in, there's no chance for that to happen.

My opinion, it all starts with money. Money to hire the best coach, money to hire the best trainers, money to improve an old and tired stadium, money for promotion, and yes...money to wine and dine players and their parents.

This post was edited on 1/14 8:32 PM by TwinDegrees2

 

[JoeZap]

I was volunteering at a shelter tonight for the homeless. One woman had a Purdue Boilermakers t-shirt. I asked her about it. She had no idea what it meant. It was given to her at one of her overnight housing stops. She didn't know that Purdue was a University. She'd heard of OSU and UM and Indiana and Perdue chicken. Other homeless there new Purdue was a University, but had no clue that it was in the neighboring state of Indiana. They were all familiar with OSU and UM and Indiana.

 

[boiler17]

I think it starts with a commitment from the top that largely displays itself with a commitment to spend more. Then at some point when you start to win, keep winning long enough for kids to see you as a successful football school. This helps recruiting and attendance, and ummmmm visability to the homeless.

 

[loftygoal]

TD2, there is absolutely no hope in the foreseeable future of Purdue competing at the level of these schools. We are strictly in it to access the B1G money. As long as we are subjected to the self-servicing one off examples that Daniels referenced in his letter to justify emphasizing academics and ethical behavior as objectives instead of expectations as to how this organization conducts itself, we are doomed to providing scrimmage squads for the rest of the league to feast on. You cannot have a winning program if winning is not a top objective.

 

[TwinDegrees2]

You know, that's a great way to put it. And something I've never considered but now do.

Why is it that those who have the funds haven't gone to those with the power and said, "It's time we went a different direction, and that new direction has to be winning at the highest level". I questioned very early why Burke would toss all that money towards a coach with one winning season.

 

[BBG]

Originally posted by JoeZap:
I was volunteering at a shelter tonight for the homeless. One woman had a Purdue Boilermakers t-shirt. I asked her about it. She had no idea what it meant. It was given to her at one of her overnight housing stops. She didn't know that Purdue was a University. She'd heard of OSU and UM and Indiana and Perdue chicken. Other homeless there new Purdue was a University, but had no clue that it was in the neighboring state of Indiana. They were all familiar with OSU and UM and Indiana.

So in a nuthsell, homeless people don't know what Purdue is. So those that go to Purdue don't end up homeless

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[SDBoiler1]

You obviously didn't follow the hiring process then. Morgan Burke had an advisory committee that included Ryan Grigson (Colts GM and former Purdue player), Rick Smith (Texans GM and former Purdue player), and Jim Tressell. This advisory committee focused on and recommended Butch Jones (ended up going to Tennessee) and Hazell.

Burke knew that to get a good candidate, and Hazell was a very good candidate when he was hired, he'd have to pony up $2.0-$2.5M/year, plus pony another $1M+ for appropriate assistants. On paper, Purdue should have one of the better coaching staffs in the BIG. The OC was an OC for two NFL teams (Bears and Panthers, I believe) and was also OC at North Carolina. The DC coached at Florida State, Minnesota, and other places.

Unfortunately, the results have not matched the credentials so far.