European football star Jaycen Taylor
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Sounds like he has had a pretty incredible experience, playing in Italy, Finland, and now Belgium. That's awesome.
It’s been about 18 years but I moved to the UK back then and met a friend (he was actually the doorman at the pub I went to) and he was playing American football. Eventually I went to a game to watch. The one strange thing that happened was by the end of the game there were about 30 people standing around me asking questions about the rules of the game. To cut to the chase, after the game my buddie asked me what I thought. Even to go as far to ask if they could give any D1 teams a run for their money. My response was inappropriate because i was amused. My response was- you guys would get beat by 50 by the best high school team in every city of every state in the US. Sorry for the long story but it triggered a good memory
It's been said a few times that Brohm recruited him as a WR. Other schools looked at him at DB, but he wants to play WR.
Why is it ridiculous? I'm just trying to level set everyone. Yes it is great that we are starting to get better recruits and more four stars. But it's not unheard for a 4 start to flop. The great thing for next year is that we will have more depth, albeit unproven depth. I think we got a little spoiled with Moore and now expect every freshman to make a similar impact.
This is why i feel holt may be a little overrated. He did a nice job his first year but not so great this year. Gonna need to step it up next season.
I can’t tell if this is TIC or not, but I’ll bite.
The defense 247 ratings and best offer outside of Purdue
2014 class:
Keiwan Jones - 2 star 2048 - Iowa State
Antonio Blackmon unranked with no rating
JT - unranked with no rating
2015 class:
Marcus Bailey - .84 991 overall - BC/Duke
2016 class:
Watts - .80 1928 overall - Cal
Neal - .81 1858 overall - Boisie State/Oregon State
Smiley -.81 1658 overall - Troy
BT - unranked with no rating
2017 class
Reviere - .81 1851 overall - WKU
Higgins - .80 JUCO 280 - New Mexico State
Jones - .79 2 Star 2280 - Uconn
Barnes - .77 2 Star 2697 - Toledo
Major - .76 2 Star 3082 - WKU
You telling me he is overrated with that taking the field? Four 2 stars (3 only have 1 year experience), 3 unrated/unranked. One player in the top 1000.
Holt has been nothing short of a genius. His first year in he had way more talent on the defensive side of the ball and he had a pass rush.
For some perspective...
2019 class
GK - .96 79 - Everybody
Grant - .92 258 - Notre Dame, Michigan, BC
Faucheux - .89 327 - Penn State, Alabama, BC
Hunter - .87 603 - UK, Cincy
Saunders - .86 775 - Iowa State (but didn’t really blow up until after he committed to Purdue).
Graham - .86 794 - BC, Minnesota
Allen - .85 975 - Virginia
Beverly -.85 1076 - BC, Cincy
Triplett -.80 2221 ( lowest rated in the entire ‘19 class and still higher than 6 starters (if you include BT who is starting as JT is injured)) and same as 2 others.
Help is coming and in a big way. Not sure that we see more than 3 as big time time contributors from the ‘19 class (next year), just due to the adjustment of the game/size/competition. But I expect that top 3 to step in immediately because they are the most ready physically.
I don’t have the time or inclination to map out the ratings of the other Big teams, but I imagine Purdue would be at the bottom when you account for the rating/experience of their players. They held there own against OSU that trounced Michigan (considered to have one of the best defenses and loaded with talent). And this was all with next to zero pass rush. If you want to judge Holt, judge him in 2-3 years when the ‘18 and ‘19 classes come into their own. He was competing in the Big with, at best, average mid-major talent. He was able to overachieve and get the players to buy in.
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You're making a lot of assumptions in these two posts. No one said anything about expecting all the incoming FR WRs to be as impactful as Moore. He's the best WR Purdue has gotten in a generation. He's been incredible this season. So you're contending that if some of the players don't have a year like Moore, they're flops?
This board doesn't need you to level set them. Making the statement that 2-3 of these new WRs may be busts is a ridiculous take. They haven't even stepped foot on campus yet outside of OVs. How about waiting until they've had a chance to show something before saying anything about any of them?
Wow that escalated fast. All I was trying to say is that there is definitely a lot of excitement and hype with our current and incoming crop of WRs (rightfully so). But historically speaking, the chances of all of them panning out are low. I'm not bashing any of them or prejudging them in any way. That's usually how it goes for all recruits for all teams.
And no, I was not using Moore as a baseline to whether they are a flop or not. I was simply saying that Moore's success may have raised our expectations for the incoming class that's all and that we should pump the brakes a little.
Chill out lol. We're going bowling, Brohm is staying, and life is good. Happy holidays to you.
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I can agree with your sentiments! Our future WR core does look bright. But what are we basing that on other than a rivals or 24/7 rating. If all we use are star ratings from internet sites, Moore should not have come close to the season he had. To say he exceeded expectations would be an understatement.
However if based solely on internet ratings, Taylor and Anderson should have been close to as good as Moore was this year. Or at least good enough to at least play.
Past history indicates the talent level and potential accomplishments of receivers is hard to evaluate. We've had some busts, over achievers, and ones who lived up to their hype. When I think of busts I'm reminded of the 4* transfer from ND he may have been a 4* in high school, but he was a bust for both ND and Purdue. Something happened to him. Or college ball was a lot different than high school.
I sure hope every Purdue recruit lives up to their hype. But I also realize because of the sheer volume of receivers we will have, not every player will have the same opportunity to display their talents. If Bell and Wright start from day 1 and succeed that will mean Rice and Shep may redshirt and Taylor and Anderson may not be as fully utilized as they could be.
I look at it like if 3 receivers succeed, it's not that the others failed or were a bust. Rather, it's just their opportunities will be lessened.
I was a part of Desert Storm, but didn't deploy. That doesn't mean I wasn't as good as those that did deploy. I was ready and could have if needed. However, a different soldier was picked first and succeeded. I have to believe Bell and Wright will get the first opportunity. If they succeed, we'll be off to the races. If not, we will have 4-5 others ready to step in and take over.
I still have concerns that 1-2 players that we see on paper and project to be here next fall will be playing somewhere else. Our receiver corp will be good but also crowded.
However if based solely on internet ratings, Taylor and Anderson should have been close to as good as Moore was this year. Or at least good enough to at least play.
Past history indicates the talent level and potential accomplishments of receivers is hard to evaluate. We've had some busts, over achievers, and ones who lived up to their hype. When I think of busts I'm reminded of the 4* transfer from ND he may have been a 4* in high school, but he was a bust for both ND and Purdue. Something happened to him. Or college ball was a lot different than high school.
I sure hope every Purdue recruit lives up to their hype. But I also realize because of the sheer volume of receivers we will have, not every player will have the same opportunity to display their talents. If Bell and Wright start from day 1 and succeed that will mean Rice and Shep may redshirt and Taylor and Anderson may not be as fully utilized as they could be.
I look at it like if 3 receivers succeed, it's not that the others failed or were a bust. Rather, it's just their opportunities will be lessened.
I was a part of Desert Storm, but didn't deploy. That doesn't mean I wasn't as good as those that did deploy. I was ready and could have if needed. However, a different soldier was picked first and succeeded. I have to believe Bell and Wright will get the first opportunity. If they succeed, we'll be off to the races. If not, we will have 4-5 others ready to step in and take over.
I still have concerns that 1-2 players that we see on paper and project to be here next fall will be playing somewhere else. Our receiver corp will be good but also crowded.
Purdue doesn’t need them all to pan out. Purdue could get by with just two stepping up. Let me explain why I think that is easy.
247 rankings and offers for WR starters
2017
Mahoungou - .85 JUCO 73 - Georgia State
Anthrop - .80 1985 (also a 2 star on other sites with zero other offers.) I believe he was a walk on for the first year?
Sparks - .76 3626 2 star (recruited as a QB). - Tulane
Phillips -.80 1808 - Ap State
2018
Zico - .84 Juco 113 - WKU
Wright - .80 Juco 213 - Boisie State
Moore - .91 221 - Texas, Bama, OSU
2019 potentially adds
Bell - .95 100 - the entire Big and Auburn
Wright - .91 OSU, MSU, Kentucky, Alabama
Bilodeau - (didn’t put TE on the list above, but it’s wort mwntionaing) .88 485 - NC State, VT
Sheffield - .87 564 Notre Dame, Arkansas, Tennessee
Anderson - .88 474 - BC, Maryland
Taylor - .87 534 - BC, Harvard (not that they are a football powerhouse, but it’s cool to see a kid Ivy League offers)
Bonner - .84 1213 - BC, Ap State
Purdue got some impressive numbers out of Wright and Zico. Everyone of the above listed potential folks going for playing time are rated higher (that isn’t even including Rice btw). There is no way, with the attention that Moore requires, that Purdue doesn’t get more production next year at the WR position. Do I expect Wright and Bell to each have 1000 years seasons? No. But I expect Purdue to have 3 other guys over 500 next to Moore who will break 1000. I think Bell/Wright, potentially could get 750-1000 yards by winning one on one matchups deep. If they aren’t ready, Bonner/Taylor/Anderson all have a year under their belts. All are very capable of getting it done. Zico and Wright were very meh last year. Adding Moore made them very good. Moore will make whoever’s job it is on the outside much easier. And Sindelar has a cannon arm.
I sure hope so! Because I think especially early on, our passing game may have to carry our offense with the uncertainty of our running game (Knox and Jones graduating).
Which isn't the worst thing. But I sure hope we get our running game figured out by October as we quickly learned that as the weather starts to turn, running the ball is essential in the Big Ten in order to win the "ugly games". (Like the losses to MSU and MINN). Although, Ohio St. may disagree with that point with the amount of passing attempts Haskins had, but I think they're the exception instead of the rule with the athletes they have.
Always.
As to your holt post, expecting similar results to last year when he lost 8 starters and a total of 12 in the 2 deeps on defense and replaced them with players that were young and had no experience is laughable. He did well with what he had. All preseason expectations were that the offense would have to score points because the defense wouldnt be able to carry its weight most of the season.
I didn't say i expected similar results in my post you moron. I said i think He was a little overrated this year. What's laughable is your holt hard-on.
You also said this: "He did a nice job his first year but not so great this year. Gonna need to step it up next season."
So by nature of the language used, you expected similar results.
As for my defense of holt, no hard on, just think he did what was expected given the talent he had.
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