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The numbers back me up. Morton was 2nd in BLK's, 2nd in assist, 2nd in Steals and had the fewest turnovers in minutes played. Not sure what he has done or didn't do to turn some against him. IMO he played the role of team player like it or not you cannot win unless someone assumes that role. Anyone who expects Myles Colvin to assume this role is clueless as to what his game is. Heide is a solid player but will be just a freshman I wouldn't expect him to be a team leader. Oh and good luck getting a transfer to come in and accept this role. So if not Morton who? I am old enough to know I don't know everything but who does? I like Morton's game and want him to fill the same role next year. Unless someone changes Painter mind (doubtful) I expect he will start at the 3. People too often assume a player like Myles will come in and replace a senior seriously who does that? Not Painter. I am not shocked people disagree with me but when it is respectable posters. Who are calling for a freshman over a senior come on now. Just my humble opinion nothing more.
there's so many uh, questionable intellects here that you can't say the sky is blue without differers. ;)
 
It’s really easy. Morton can’t hit the side of a barn shooting the dang ball. Many wanted to keep Newman too and look what reality told you. He’s a WKU quality player
Just for fun, what kind of odds would you give against EM shooting 35%+ from three this coming season? Not saying it will happen but wouldn’t surprise me if it did.
 
Very low. But if you’re right I’ll be the first to admit it
Same here, I really have no idea. I was shocked that he shot as low of a percentage as he did this year on mostly open looks after shooting 44% the year before.

I ask because it's one of those deals where it seems like there's a pretty broad range of distribution of outcomes and if you could get 15:1 or better odds of him shooting 35%+ with a sports book I'd put a substantial amount of money on it. Not because I think it's likely to happen but because I think the odds of it happening are not immaterial, i.e. significantly better than 1 in 15.
 
Very low. But if you’re right I’ll be the first to admit it
Its not just that his percentage is so low. Its that he doesn't shoot. He's only taken 213 shots in his 95 game Purdue career. The year he shot 44% from 3 he only made 15 3s in 37 games. I'm sorry but even at that high percentage that's not going to convince anyone your a serious threat from the outside.

And by the way he only made 15 two point baskets this year in 880 minutes. That's one two point basket every 58.67 minutes. Let that sink in.
 
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Its not just that his percentage is so low. Its that he doesn't shoot. He's only taken 213 shots in his 95 game Purdue career. The year he shot 44% from 3 he only made 15 3s in 37 games. I'm sorry but even at that high percentage that's not going to convince anyone your a serious threat from the outside.

And by the way he only made 15 two point baskets this year in 880 minutes. That's one two point basket every 58.67 minutes. Let that sink in.
Why would you care if anyone considers him a serious threat from outside if he's shooting 44% from three? Wouldn't you want them to not take him seriously? It wasn't that he was turning down a bunch of open shots as a sophomore, he only played 15 mpg.

Is your point that he's unlikely to be a primary or secondary scorer? If so, I agree, but if the guys who are supposed to be shooters are knocking down shots Purdue doesn't need him to be. Agree that Purdue would benefit greatly on offense from other options if he's not knocking down open shots and / or if guys like Braden and Loyer are struggling.
 
If teams don't think of his as a potential threat to score they won't guard him. If they don't guard him, they can help off of Morton without being penalized. The whole point of Purdue's offense was to dump it down to Zach and if he gets doubled or triple teamed pass the ball to a back cutter or out to a perimeter player for the open 3.

Teams laid off of Morton this year and he took 3.7 shots a game and made 1.2. Two years ago he took less than 1.8 shots a game, making .8. I'm not talking about 3s here. I'm talking total shots from the field.

My point was that even if Morton shot 44% form the field (compared to 32 %), he'd still only make 1.6 baskets a game. In my view teams still wouldn't guard him, because he doesn't shoot unless he's wide open.

Lets just say hypothetically that Morton was an effective scorer and teams couldn't leave him. Wouldn't that make things not only easier for Zach but also Loyer, Gillis or Smith? Wouldn't it help them get more open looks if teams had to "pick their poison" and occasionally double off them as well?
 
If teams don't think of his as a potential threat to score they won't guard him. If they don't guard him, they can help off of Morton without being penalized. The whole point of Purdue's offense was to dump it down to Zach and if he gets doubled or triple teamed pass the ball to a back cutter or out to a perimeter player for the open 3.

Teams laid off of Morton this year and he took 3.7 shots a game and made 1.2. Two years ago he took less than 1.8 shots a game, making .8. I'm not talking about 3s here. I'm talking total shots from the field.

My point was that even if Morton shot 44% form the field (compared to 32 %), he'd still only make 1.6 baskets a game. In my view teams still wouldn't guard him, because he doesn't shoot unless he's wide open.

Lets just say hypothetically that Morton was an effective scorer and teams couldn't leave him. Wouldn't that make things not only easier for Zach but also Loyer, Gillis or Smith? Wouldn't it help them get more open looks if teams had to "pick their poison" and occasionally double off them as well?
I understand what you're trying to say but I think that your logic is inconsistent (or maybe circular?).

Agree that if Morton (or any other player) is not seen as a threat to score it clogs up the rest of the offense. If that results in him consistently getting open threes and he can hit them at a 40%+ rate (a big if), to me that's great. Let him shoot 15 threes a game and make six of them. Hell, let him shoot 25 open threes a game and make 10 of them at 1.2 points per possession before factoring in some of the best rebounders in the country cleaning up on the offensive boards.

That's purposeful hyperbole but at some point the defense is going to stop cheating off of him if he can hit open shots at a high rate or his usage rate is going to go way up. You can have a highly efficient and effective offense that includes guys with very low usage rates as long as they can convert when they're left open. The main problem with Ethan last year (IMO) was that he didn't convert at a high enough rate.
 
It’s really easy. Morton can’t hit the side of a barn shooting the dang ball. Many wanted to keep Newman too and look what reality told you. He’s a WKU quality player
Are you really in that small group of fans that doesn't yet realize the competitive balance in college hoops now? You haven't seen enough guys transfer to "big' time programs and still excelling? hmm
 
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