New athletic director Mike Bobinski is ignoring a bunch of you (link)

[TC4THREE]

http://www.news-sentinel.com/sports/pu/Purdue-s-Mike-Bobinski-goal-is-clear----from-good-to-great

Take, for instance, the growing legion of angry Purdue fans unhappy with ..... the fact the basketball team has lost its NCAA tourney opener in each of the past two seasons .....

How does he deal with those fans?

“I ignore them,” he says with a laugh.

And then, “I’ve done this for a long time. Every school has folks who are half-empty fans. They view nothing but challenge and less than. I can’t change that. For me, it’s focusing on our positives, our strengths, and the opportunities we have ahead of us. Those are the folks who will get us where we need to go.

“You build things with positive energy and enthusiasm. You don’t build with folks who believe we can’t; we never will. I have little time or patience for that. It’s just not productive. It doesn’t help you build anything.

“I will listen to everybody, but at the end of the day, I will attach myself to those who believe we can and help us move in the right direction. Misery loves company, but it won’t have company with this guy. I have no problem tuning out the noise.”

 

[BBG]

Okay that is epic and hilarious. I like this guy already.

 

[bonefish1]

Not sure there was much else he could say in response to the question.

What I would like to hear is something to the effect of:
"I'm the new sheriff in town and things are going to change. That's why the BOD hired me and told me I'd have the authority and resources to make the necessary changes. Middle of the pack and average are not going to be good enough for Purdue as long as I'm the AD. We will make an organization commitment to strive for excellence, to compete for championships and to have facilities worthy of championship programs."

 

[TC4THREE]

Not sure there was much else he could say in response to the question.

What I would like to hear is something to the effect of:
"I'm the new sheriff in town and things are going to change. That's why the BOD hired me and told me I'd have the authority and resources to make the necessary changes. Middle of the pack and average are not going to be good enough for Purdue as long as I'm the AD. We will make an organization commitment to strive for excellence, to compete for championships and to have facilities worthy of championship programs."

“As long as we know we’re doing the best we can possibly do, and push the envelope in every appropriate way possible, that’s all we can do,” Bobinski says. “You can’t do more than your best. At the end of the day, people will like or not like it. I can’t control that.

 

[Kesselschmiede]

“As long as we know we’re doing the best we can possibly do, and push the envelope in every appropriate way possible, that’s all we can do,” Bobinski says. “You can’t do more than your best. At the end of the day, people will like or not like it. I can’t control that.

Lol .. owned. Too bad for the negatwitts Painter is proven to be performing above average much to their dismay. A hater is just gonna hate.

 

[bonefish1]

“As long as we know we’re doing the best we can possibly do, and push the envelope in every appropriate way possible, that’s all we can do,” Bobinski says. “You can’t do more than your best. At the end of the day, people will like or not like it. I can’t control that.

I guess it all depends on what the expectations are. Some of us have higher, some lower. Depending on your perspective, you'll either be happy or not.

 

[bonefish1]

Lol .. owned. Too bad for the negatwitts Painter is proven to be performing above average much to their dismay. A hater is just gonna hate.

Good God you're annoying.

 

[Kesselschmiede]

Good God you're annoying.

It's okay if you think that, I'll take annoying over being a moron like you.

 

[Kesselschmiede]

I guess it all depends on what the expectations are. Some of us have higher, some lower. Depending on your perspective, you'll either be happy or not.

No some of you have unrealistic emotional expectations, then the rest of us are realistic about things.

 

[BBG]

Good God you're annoying.

Don't poke the troll Lenny

 

[TC4THREE]

I guess it all depends on what the expectations are. Some of us have higher, some lower. Depending on your perspective, you'll either be happy or not.

I have high expectations for things I have control over. Got to love people who are proud of their high expectations..............for others!!

 

[DG10]

http://www.news-sentinel.com/sports/pu/Purdue-s-Mike-Bobinski-goal-is-clear----from-good-to-great

Take, for instance, the growing legion of angry Purdue fans unhappy with ..... the fact the basketball team has lost its NCAA tourney opener in each of the past two seasons .....

How does he deal with those fans?

“I ignore them,” he says with a laugh.

And then, “I’ve done this for a long time. Every school has folks who are half-empty fans. They view nothing but challenge and less than. I can’t change that. For me, it’s focusing on our positives, our strengths, and the opportunities we have ahead of us. Those are the folks who will get us where we need to go.

“You build things with positive energy and enthusiasm. You don’t build with folks who believe we can’t; we never will. I have little time or patience for that. It’s just not productive. It doesn’t help you build anything.

“I will listen to everybody, but at the end of the day, I will attach myself to those who believe we can and help us move in the right direction. Misery loves company, but it won’t have company with this guy. I have no problem tuning out the noise.”

How is that stance, never mind approach, any different from his predecessor? Stop by Ross-Ade on a home football Saturday (heck, stop by on a day when they are away for that matter and it is not all that different) and see how that worked out.

Just means that Purdue fans should expect more of the same, for the very reason that it exists in the first place...expectations are minimal, and there is zero accountability...from the top (i.e., AD) on down.

The only thing that matters to anyone is that nice check that they receive for doing absolutely positively nothing...and that check provides the job security that all involved have, as there is zero motivation or need to do anything in that they get that check regardless.

Brian spent time working up like three pieces on Burke's legacy...whereas it should have taken no more than a couple of sentences...he ruined Purdue football single-handedly, and Purdue is a virtual non-factor within the conference in most sports (and certainly the primary revenue ones more often than not), and virtually entirely irrelevant nationally...and, despite that, he was still able to dictate (literally) the terms of his moving on.

Whether Bobinski wanted to take any action with respect to Painter or Versyp, it was made more difficult because of the extensions that Burke provided, and, with football being the complete epic disaster that it is, in conjunction with those extensions that tied his hands financially, he cannot take action even if he wanted to.

 

[punaj]

Didn't Burke hire Joe Tiller? He started in 1993 and Tiller was hired 3-4 years later. I wouldn't classify that as ruining football at Purdue. He hasn't done much since, but the Tiller years were pretty good given Tiller is our all-time winningest football coach.

 

[DG10]

Didn't Burke hire Joe Tiller? He started in 1993 and Tiller was hired 3-4 years later. I wouldn't classify that as ruining football at Purdue. He hasn't done much since, but the Tiller years were pretty good given Tiller is our all-time winningest football coach.

Purdue football is at the lowest point that it ever has been, with the worst coach it has ever had...and while Purdue has had some success historically, it is not exactly a glorious history...so those are some dubious achievements, both directly attributable to him.

He did indeed hire Tiller...then screwed him royally by not supporting him and his staff financially, which ultimately led to his demise...which Burke mismanaged as well.

 

[TC4THREE]

Purdue football is at the lowest point that it ever has been, with the worst coach it has ever had...and while Purdue has had some success historically, it is not exactly a glorious history...so those are some dubious achievements, both directly attributable to him.

He did indeed hire Tiller...then screwed him royally by not supporting him and his staff financially, which ultimately led to his demise...which Burke mismanaged as well.

Couple points here:

Have always heard that Tiller was not Burke's first choice so in retrospect was it a great hire or just a great coincidence that he was the first guy willing to take the job?

Secondly, Burke never supported the football program the way it needed to be supported until he hired Hazell and ironically, it has never been worse. Left Tiller out to dry after he came in and got the ball rolling and then the way he held back resources on Hope was shameful. He may not have been the guy to take us to a national championship but if you've decided that he's not worthy of your full support then don't hire him to begin with or let him go when you come to that opinion. I am generally positive regarding Burke (I can even excuse some of cheapness with which the AD was run because I think that comes in large part from the BOD) but I could not disagree more with the way he transitioned away from Hope. Literally every step was botched in that transition from Hope to Hazell.

 

[DG10]

Couple points here:

Have always heard that Tiller was not Burke's first choice so in retrospect was it a great hire or just a great coincidence that he was the first guy willing to take the job?

Secondly, Burke never supported the football program the way it needed to be supported until he hired Hazell and ironically, it has never been worse. Left Tiller out to dry after he came in and got the ball rolling and then the way he held back resources on Hope was shameful. He may not have been the guy to take us to a national championship but if you've decided that he's not worthy of your full support then don't hire him to begin with or let him go when you come to that opinion. I am generally positive regarding Burke (I can even excuse some of cheapness with which the AD was run because I think that comes in large part from the BOD) but I could not disagree more with the way he transitioned away from Hope. Literally every step was botched in that transition from Hope to Hazell.

Tiller was indeed the first guy willing to take the job opposed to the first choice for the job...same for Hazell for that matter.

The damage was done by the time Burke spent money, and the money that he spent was not genuine support for that matter...never mind it was a cost that he in turn tried to pass on to the fans/supporters. Hazell is a lousy coach whether you pay the guy $1m or $2m or $5m...and that notion escaped Morgan, just like many others did with respect to how to actually run a program, never mind department.

 

[boilersallthewaynow]

Okay that is epic and hilarious. I like this guy already.

OMG yes!

Keep on doing what ya been doing and you'll get different results , scratch that , BETTER results !!!!!!!

Gotta be a Morgan Burke mini-me !

And now we know why the hire.

Is he going to surround himself with the same people who haven't got us there , like ever ?

Sounds like a brilliant plan.

 

[vilehoopster]

He's doing what all ADs do; he's a diplomat.

He's blowing gas out of both sides of his butt, keeping both factions happy. The sub-title of the article is "from Good to Great," but then he talks about how he ignores people who are upset with the lack of NCAA wins.

You people who take this article that he's happy with how basketball is going, look at his quotes. “As long as we know we’re doing the best we can possibly do, and push the envelope in every appropriate way possible."

So are you saying that Bobinski believes that last place in the Big Ten and not winning NCAA tourney games is "the best we can possibly do"? Do you really think he believes that not getting one top player from Indiana or anywhere nearby with this 2017 class is "the best we can possibly do"? You guys seem to be saying that that's exactly what he's said: that what we've seen for the last four is "the best we can possibly do." Do you really think he's saying that?

Look at this quote: "You don’t build with folks who believe we can’t; we never will. I have little time or patience for that. It’s just not productive. It doesn’t help you build anything."

Isn't that a direct comment to you Painter apologists? We can't get anyone better than Painter. Purdue can't recruit any better than Painter does? We can't get to a Final Four; those days are over? You can't expect to get to the Sweet Sixteen most seasons; really, going to a Sweet Sixteen twice in eleven years is the best you can expect. We can't do better than that.

Come on you guys. He's being a politician by appeasing both factions of fans.

But if you look at his quotes, he definitely is implying that he has high expectation: "Good to Great".

Like I said it before. We'll see.

 

[tjreese]

He's doing what all ADs do; he's a diplomat.

He's blowing gas out of both sides of his butt, keeping both factions happy. The sub-title of the article is "from Good to Great," but then he talks about how he ignores people who are upset with the lack of NCAA wins.

You people who take this article that he's happy with how basketball is going, look at his quotes. “As long as we know we’re doing the best we can possibly do, and push the envelope in every appropriate way possible."

So are you saying that Bobinski believes that last place in the Big Ten and not winning NCAA tourney games is "the best we can possibly do"? Do you really think he believes that not getting one top player from Indiana or anywhere nearby with this 2017 class is "the best we can possibly do"? You guys seem to be saying that that's exactly what he's said: that what we've seen for the last four is "the best we can possibly do." Do you really think he's saying that?

Look at this quote: "You don’t build with folks who believe we can’t; we never will. I have little time or patience for that. It’s just not productive. It doesn’t help you build anything."

Isn't that a direct comment to you Painter apologists? We can't get anyone better than Painter. Purdue can't recruit any better than Painter does? We can't get to a Final Four; those days are over? You can't expect to get to the Sweet Sixteen most seasons; really, going to a Sweet Sixteen twice in eleven years is the best you can expect. We can't do better than that.

Come on you guys. He's being a politician by appeasing both factions of fans.

But if you look at his quotes, he definitely is implying that he has high expectation: "Good to Great".

Like I said it before. We'll see.

I do not think an AD cares at all about recruiting star power for a current coach. I think that could be a variable about a future coach. I think the coach is evaluated on results on the court, away from the court and in the classroom with unequal weighting. If Matt doesn't recruit any five stars and wins to the expectation level, the A.D. won't care. Now if Matt doesn't win and the A.D. thinks that is the result of not recruiting well in the eyes of those that give star power, then that might be a portion of evaluating a new coach for hire. The only way recruiting star power affects the evaluation of Matt is if Matt's teams don't win to expectations.

 

[Inspector100]

Didn't Burke hire Joe Tiller? He started in 1993 and Tiller was hired 3-4 years later. I wouldn't classify that as ruining football at Purdue. He hasn't done much since, but the Tiller years were pretty good given Tiller is our all-time winningest football coach.

Burke sought help and assembled a committee to provide a recommendation that he would eventually hire. I believe there were members of the BOD, some faculty, a person or two from the administration office and maybe a highly respected sports alum.on the committee. And Gene Keady was on that committee because he had a football background. The committee did all the work. I don't know if it was the idea of Coach Tiller or the committee, but bringing his staff from Wyoming was the smartest thing that happened. Joe would still be coach if that staff had remained in tact and Purdue would be a national power, sort of like Paterno's run at Penn State. Sorry, that last part is just my opinion.

 

[BoilerBiker]

He's doing what all ADs do; he's a diplomat.

He's blowing gas out of both sides of his butt, keeping both factions happy. The sub-title of the article is "from Good to Great," but then he talks about how he ignores people who are upset with the lack of NCAA wins.

You people who take this article that he's happy with how basketball is going, look at his quotes. “As long as we know we’re doing the best we can possibly do, and push the envelope in every appropriate way possible."

So are you saying that Bobinski believes that last place in the Big Ten and not winning NCAA tourney games is "the best we can possibly do"? Do you really think he believes that not getting one top player from Indiana or anywhere nearby with this 2017 class is "the best we can possibly do"? You guys seem to be saying that that's exactly what he's said: that what we've seen for the last four is "the best we can possibly do." Do you really think he's saying that?

Look at this quote: "You don’t build with folks who believe we can’t; we never will. I have little time or patience for that. It’s just not productive. It doesn’t help you build anything."

Isn't that a direct comment to you Painter apologists? We can't get anyone better than Painter. Purdue can't recruit any better than Painter does? We can't get to a Final Four; those days are over? You can't expect to get to the Sweet Sixteen most seasons; really, going to a Sweet Sixteen twice in eleven years is the best you can expect. We can't do better than that.

Come on you guys. He's being a politician by appeasing both factions of fans.

But if you look at his quotes, he definitely is implying that he has high expectation: "Good to Great".

Like I said it before. We'll see.

i can see what you're saying.
after reading, i definitely did not get the impression of the OP, as that would be a 'negative' connotation towards fans, which would be against the core of mb2's positive sentiment here. (and i'm sure he's been told how mb1 and ms cross have previously POd supporters in the past, so i doubt he would venture down that path so soon in his tenure either).

i read this more towards football, but i'll keep it to this board/thread.
to me, it sounds pretty pro-dh2, and makes it seem that he is staying positive with that program/staff, dh2 still needs more time, etc etc. maybe 2-3 wins is the best they can do right now (until we get more massive upgrades to recruiting budgets, improved assistants, more facilities, stadium renovations...? i'm just guessing here as he did not elaborate with any specific details).

if someone were to read it as negative and a shot to fans,
it would likely be directed to a vast majority of the fan base (90+% ?), since i get the feeling most are either already looking past dh2 or on their last straw (as seen by countless threads on coaching candidates, etc).

 

[Kesselschmiede]

I love this new AD! He dropped some realism on the negatwitts and now you can see them scurrying about with their tails between their legs.

Just goes to show why the negatwitts aren't an AD and this guy is.

 

[nat100]

Yeah, there is a context issue here. The quote applied to football.

TC's been fishing quite a bit lately.

 

[TC4THREE]

Yeah, there is a context issue here. The quote applied to football.

TC's been fishing quite a bit lately.

Are fans upset that the football team got beat in the NCAA tournament the past two years?
The quote applied to fans of both programs in general.

 

[nat100]

Are fans upset that the football team got beat in the NCAA tournament the past two years?
The quote applied to fans of both programs in general.

Fair enough. I skimmed the article admittedly.

 

[BoilerBiker]

Are fans upset that the football team got beat in the NCAA tournament the past two years?
The quote applied to fans of both programs in general.

Since the primary focus of his hire/ initial tasks are football, that is the way I read it.
The author stated both sports in that line but mb2 kept his comments to a generic 'program' without stating specific sports (at least in those quotes)

On the other hand, you could be correct.
He could have been ripping fans of bball since we have many that still actively care enough to be negative.

On the football side, many are not even negative anymore. They have simply moved on and stopped following the team as seen in the absence online, few in the stands, not watching on TV, etc.

 

[Dryfly88]

Since the primary focus of his hire/ initial tasks are football, that is the way I read it.
The author stated both sports in that line but mb2 kept his comments to a generic 'program' without stating specific sports (at least in those quotes)

On the other hand, you could be correct.
He could have been ripping fans of bball since we have many that still actively care enough to be negative.

On the football side, many are not even negative anymore. They have simply moved on and stopped following the team as seen in the absence online, few in the stands, not watching on TV, etc.[/QUOTE]
Please don't ever let that happen to Basketball. I would much rather come on here and argue (discuss) our different opinions about the team than to have silence because everyone has just given up and moved on. Bobinski really has his hands full. There is nothing worse than a fan base that has just lost interest.