Mershawn Rice in the slot?
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He’s gotta be on the field. Especially being the nephew of Jerry Rice.
With Rice's size, it would be odd for him to be a regular at the slot receiver positions. Hey, if it works, great.
The biggest thing with him at Purdue has been his health, so maybe this is the year he puts it all together. Seems like we have a lot of talented guys that just cannot stay healthy.
Grant is another one that shows his skills when he is on the field, but that time on the field always seems to be too short.
The biggest thing with him at Purdue has been his health, so maybe this is the year he puts it all together. Seems like we have a lot of talented guys that just cannot stay healthy.
Grant is another one that shows his skills when he is on the field, but that time on the field always seems to be too short.
I haven't heard that's the plan regarding Rice. I think we'll see Bell quite a bit in the slot, all over really. Bell is going to get the ball early and often.
That makes sense getting the ball in the hands of your best player. But Brohm needs to either call plays to spread the ball out or get it in his QBs' heads to spread it around. It seemed to me they forced the ball to Bell too much last year, particularly when Moore was on the shelf.
Bell's much better down the field. The guy has unbelievable body control and hands. He's great on those 50/50 jump balls. He's not a burner and not terribly shifty so not sure you want him running short routes out of the slot and getting teed up by LBs.
Not sure you can call them 50/50 balls when 3 is involved.
AOC even addressed this in his video interview a weeks or so ago. Saying that he missed reads some last year and just threw to Bell, knowing that Bell had such great hands, He noted that he needs to spread the love more, which would improve his game, and stop defenses from just loading up on Bell. Saying it and doing it in game pressure are two different things...but it does show that he's aware that he looked (only) Bell's way too much last year.
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I think this is the key with either QB. Under pressure the natural inclination is to go to your security blanket. With a nice warm, cozy pocket to throw from it is a totally different mindset. Please, please, please let the OL be good this year...
I think we will see Bell in the slot occasionally. In one of the coach's videos, can't remember who, it was mentioned that they have plans to move him around. Getting him lined up against safeties or nickel backs could be useful. Now I don't see him running many shallow drag routes, screens or 5 yard curls from there, but I could see him running flat or out routes primarily and an occasional corner route. I believe Rondale's first TD as a boiler came on a corner route out of the slot. Lots of possibilities down field out of the slot.
Teams are starting to incorporate a lot more fades from the slot as well which I think he would excel at.
This talk of using larger receivers in the slot, I wonder if that is the role the staff had envisioned for Carr.
Translation to this being put out there…
it ain’t happening with sheffield which means they’ve parlayed Moore’s presence into absolutely nothing
They needed someone who could work a lot of the space left from bell and Wright which in turn would help Durham and horvath
Are you dumb, or just this dense?
parlayed Moore into nothing?
We start 2 Rivals 250 recruits at WR.
3 other 4 stars who look pretty good. A transfer WR who has had success and looks to be the real deal.
1 guy not working out or being elite means nothing.
At the slot you .. you know, Moore’s position???
“hey you had Jonathan ogden and parlayed it into nothing”
“what do you mean??? They got an awesome right guard.”
I can do training wheel levels of qualifiers if you need it.
I view rice as an excellent candidate to take Bell’s spot in the future. In the slot I’d much rather have a guy who is 5’11” 180 with the ability to work space for big plays.
I can’t wait until I become the worst person in the world because you needed me to add “at the exact same position that moore played” because you aren’t as smart as you think you are
Brohm wants a bigger WR in the slot. He used carr there last year.
meh wants to recreate the mismatch that Hopkins got. Rice can do that.
Ah, so Rondale is only responsible for replacing himself. Got it.
He’s not the reason Bell or Wright came? Please. At the end of the day, you’re upset about something (finding Rondales replacement) that you haven’t even let happen yet. You’re mad…but the fact is you don’t know squat.
rondale isn’t responsible for anything.. but when you have Ron dayne you’re not supposed to be like “oh we are moving an H back there because of yet another failed player development.”
NO.. YOU need to see a huge receiver in the slot not work to be like “yeah that was dumb”.. that takes no brain power. I already know it’s a dumb idea.
if brohm pulls it off then he will be an innovator and I’ll be dead wrong and will say so, but I don’t see it.
With no success (Carr). Didn’t Hopkins play in addition to slot sized receivers?
this sounds a lot like “we will be like Ohio state under tressel but here” or “yeah let’s run a 3-4 at Purdue”
You know what I should let it play out … it’s just frustrating because everything was Set up for tj sheffield to have a nice season
He’s just A player. One. The Covid season seems to have warped your perception about player development. In a 6 game season….you barely have any time to develop. Each QB only started 3 games. Our best defensive player played 3. A minor injury basically zapped 33% or 50% or more of your season just like that….like what seemingly happened with King Doerue (and others). Im not raving about the job Brohms done but you had an injury riddled 2019, a Covid crazy 2020….we never got the chance to work through any adversity because there was just more the next game, next year, etc.
There’s a clean slate in my mind. Schedules not too rediculous ( I think ND will be beatable, OSU not so much). The rest of the games I don’t really see anybody on the schedule who’s just an automatic write in loss. I still think Brohm has 2 more years regardless with his big $$ buyout but even at 5-7 he’ll be back for 2022.
What?? Schedule not too ridiculous? It's the #10 toughest schedule. And sorry, but it's highly doubtful Purdue beats ND. I hate ND, but that's just reality...
I don’t care how big or small the guy is. If he’s productive he could be a three horned alien and I wouldn’t think twice about it.
Gotta let em play. You’ll see TEs in the slot. You’ll see Anthrop. You’ll see Rice. You’ll probably see Bell there too. I think 💭 nice the season starts you won’t think twice about this.
He is a player .. cool. Now, on our roster, who fits the characteristics of most every slot receiver you’ll see when you watch college ball.. who is ready to play and more athletic than anthrop?
whether that player played last year or not, he was supposed to be recruited, brought here and developed over the past 2-3 years.
that player doesn’t appear to be here. So brohm is reinventing the wheel .. if he succeeds fine. If he doesn’t it’s yet another head scratcher
Again…you’re worried about something that you’re not even letting play out.
you’re criticizing probably the best position group on the team. Chill
Well I also bring up good ones..
What makes you think you aren’t weird as f when you’re sitting there cataloging dudes on message boards. For a million dollars I couldn’t tell you what you’ve said about anything.
I just love this shit cause I’ve seen it with other people here … “you disagree with me?!? What’s wrong with you??” You sound miserable man.
siller is relevant because he was too tall to be a runningback unless you have exceptional exceptional talent. But yet there were posters here insisting that we just had to give it a chance. Now I don’t remember any of them… but they existed.
Brohm is not reinventing the wheel by moving bigger receivers inside at times. Look at the NFL and see where guys like Keenan Allen line up. Allen probably lines up in the slot half the time. The Bears started lining up Allen Robinson inside the last couple years to try and get him away from the leagues top corners. Oh and Tyreek hill probably lines up outside more than in the slot. Man, what's wrong with the Chiefs.
Oh, but you will say that is the NFL. Well here is a link to an article that talks this same exact thing in the college ranks. Moving Inside
Maybe you are related to TJ, but I hope Brohm doesn't have the same hang ups about slot receivers that you do. I hope he finds a way to get the best receivers on the field. If the best includes TJ, great. If not, then find a way to use the ones who are.
I don’t mind having a guy occasionally do that. I do mind having a scenario where you have anthrop and a whole lot of nothing as your traditional slot guys.
again, if we do go 5-7, many of the rose pushers will wish I was posting more, because the board will be overrun by people who are silently waiting to be about 10 times more cynical than I am.
Ive never once posted Mac talent.. yet every year if we don’t go to a bowl, the Mac talent people come out lol
Being Jerry's nephew, how could he not know football. It's in his jeans.
I'm assuming @Hausta01 is referring to BCFanatic, not Mershawn. But that's a pretty nice comeback as well!
If I may..
I believe the expressed concern is not height but the lack of shiftiness and agility. Operating out of the slot one of the main things you are expected to do is produce yards after catch. Traditionally this is done using quicker Wes Welker/Julian Edelman types - see Rondale Moore. However, there is also something to be said for a big body with good set of hands that can post up on a quick slant and provide a reliable target for a 6-8 yard gain.
As someone else said, I don't really think it matters that much where players line up. Yeah I suppose smaller WRs tend to be in the slot, but that doesn't mean bigger players can't. We see TEs away from the line all the time. WRs are in motion a lot of the time and end up in the slot area at the snap. You're looking for matchup advantages. Wherever that happens it happens.
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