Manchin kills Build Broke Better bill!!

[Indy_Rider]

Its a shame the Congress won't legislate a stand alone compromise.....
1. Add free childcare for working families under $75k.
2. Take away some other giveaway(s) of relatively same budgetary amount as #1 that incentivises people not to work.

That kind of compromise would likely appeal to all (except the extreme radical partisans on each side), and most importantly help poor and middle class American families and America get back to work.

Trouble is corrupt politicians always want to add programs and NEVER delete any.

And actually, that is part of the problem when you draw an arbitrary line like that. I would've been better off taking a pay cut then to get below that threshold. My youngest is in 1st grade now, so it wouldn't apply, but that is what I hate about these programs and the arbitrary line they set and I've dealt with it a lot with my daughter. She was born with a cleft lip and palate. Before she was born, we heard about all these great programs that would help us. Turned out we were just over the threshold so had to scrape up money to pay for it all ourselves.

 

[TeddyValentineDidNothingWrong]

I'm glad you're fans of the multi-millionaire coal baron who lives on a yacht. Bet that boots tastes yummy.

 

[Boiler Buck]

And actually, that is part of the problem when you draw an arbitrary line like that. I would've been better off taking a pay cut then to get below that threshold. My youngest is in 1st grade now, so it wouldn't apply, but that is what I hate about these programs and the arbitrary line they set and I've dealt with it a lot with my daughter. She was born with a cleft lip and palate. Before she was born, we heard about all these great programs that would help us. Turned out we were just over the threshold so had to scrape up money to pay for it all ourselves.

75K per person....is 150k per couple.
Sorry about your troubles. That problem is why I support opperation Smiles.

If you guys as a couple were above 150k, I will not feel sorry for you from a financial stand point.

 

[Boiler Buck]

The Democrats didn’t want to give up their biggest line item…a $475B tax cut for the rich in blue states (high state and local tax…SALT).

True, but that is different than a small targeted stand alone bill.

If they want to do a separate stand alone for Salt they can....but knowing how DC works or shoukd we say doesn't work, don't hold your breath .

 

[SIBoiler2]

True, but that is different than a small targeted stand alone bill.

If they want to do a separate stand alone for Salt they can....but knowing how DC works or shoukd we say doesn't work, don't hold your breath .

Will never happen. With it in a stand alone it will require 60 votes in the Senate. Never happen especially in an election year not to mention the libs in the House won't hold still for helping the rich.

 

[Boiler Buck]

Will never happen. With it in a stand alone it will require 60 votes in the Senate. Never happen especially in an election year not to mention the libs in the House won't hold still for helping the rich.

If they really wanted salt (l do not), they could tie it to a budgetary bill in the house couldn't they? I think those avoid the Senate's 60 votes

 

[bonefish1]

We'll see how it goes in WV ab elsewhere when they continue to pay up the ying yang for childcare, elderly care, drugs etc. But some folks like to vote against there own interest.

Like blacks?

 

[FreedomWins]

Like blacks?

Uh oh!!

 

[BSIT]

I said it on a previous post a couple months ago that the Dems better be careful or he’ll switch to a Republican or Independent and caucus with the Republicans. The tolerant party is hypocritical
White House Turns on Joe Manchin for Killing Joe Biden’s Build Back Better Bill
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...in-killing-joe-bidens-build-back-better-bill/
Dem Rep. Omar: Manchin’s Excuses ‘Complete Bullsh-t’ — He Can’t Be Trusted
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...excuses-complete-bullsh-t-he-cant-be-trusted/
Ayanna Pressley: Manchin Has ‘Contempt’ for the American People
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...manchin-has-contempt-for-the-american-people/
Sanders: We Need to Force Manchin to Vote — ‘He Doesn’t’ Have the Guts to Stand Up’ to Special Interests
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...ve-the-guts-to-stand-up-to-special-interests/

Just saying. Just disappointed he would still caucus with Dems
Report: Joe Manchin May Become an Independent After White House Accuses Him of Disloyalty
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-after-white-house-accuses-him-of-disloyalty/

 

[BNIBoiler]

Like blacks?

I don't. Perhaps the Gumbo/Sambos and the poor whites that are Chumpers.

 

[Crayfish57]

I don't. Perhaps the Gumbo/Sambos and the poor whites that are Chumpers.

You really have no clue do you?

 

[BSIT]

Just saying. Just disappointed he would still caucus with Dems
Report: Joe Manchin May Become an Independent After White House Accuses Him of Disloyalty
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-after-white-house-accuses-him-of-disloyalty/

More in the pipeline potentially moving to Republican
McCarthy: ‘I Think There Are a Few Other Democrats’ Thinking About Changing Parties
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...er-democrats-thinking-about-changing-parties/

 

[BoilerBiker]

They shoot for the moon, then hammer on Republicans until they cave to a portion of it and Democrats get a few of the social programs they want out of it that will never go away. Rinse repeat, and we are that much closer to a nanny state.

the art of the deal

 

[BoilerBiker]

More in the pipeline potentially moving to Republican
McCarthy: ‘I Think There Are a Few Other Democrats’ Thinking About Changing Parties
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...er-democrats-thinking-about-changing-parties/

more should become independents

 

[TheGunner]

More in the pipeline potentially moving to Republican
McCarthy: ‘I Think There Are a Few Other Democrats’ Thinking About Changing Parties
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...er-democrats-thinking-about-changing-parties/

Politicians have to follow the voters. What a novel concept.

This administration may be viewed as worse than Carter’s and I fully expect a Republican run for the next 12 yrs, assuming we can put someone with a brain in office who can just put the right policies in place.

 

[tjreese]

Politicians have to follow the voters. What a novel concept.

This administration may be viewed as worse than Carter’s and I fully expect a Republican run for the next 12 yrs, assuming we can put someone with a brain in office who can just put the right policies in place.

"MAY?" The border crisis alone is worse than anything Jimmy ever did...and I did not forget the 400 day captives.

 

[BSIT]

Politicians have to follow the voters. What a novel concept.

This administration may be viewed as worse than Carter’s and I fully expect a Republican run for the next 12 yrs, assuming we can put someone with a brain in office who can just put the right policies in place.

We need Reagan 2.0

 

[Crayfish57]

We need Reagan 2.0

Hell at 95 Carter still might be a slight upgrade to what we have

 

[Boiler Buck]

more should become independents

I really think Independents delude theirselves. Both these corrupt parties are who they are, regardless of lying and rah, rah rhetoric during their campaigns.

Yet we have independent voters that tell themselves, "I really like what they said about X"....and vote for them. Then after the election, they govern 95% like Ds or Rs do.....the talk is mostly lies and puffed up banter, yet Independent voters think somehow election after election it will be different. LOL

Occasionally you have a Collins or Manchin type that are free thinkers for their republics they represent, but that is the rare exception not the rule.

 

[BoilerBF]

 

[BoilerBF]

Answer: Yes, Biden did just make up that Manchin said that.

 

[Riveting-]

Calling a black man 'boy' has clear racist undertones. A true Boilermaker does not speak like that under any conditions.

You really should strive to be better than Biden, which is not a high bar.

How about this one, @Bill4411 ?