Not talking about Morton. He’s as bad on offense as Myles is on defense.
After Battle hitting 3 in a row, Morton was put in the game and Battle went cold and became a willing passer for the next 5 minutes until Morton was subbed out.
Agree and 90% of the adjustments that coaches make you (and I) won't see or notice, just as we can make assumptions about poor play being due to game plan versus execution but the truth is we don't really know.
Yeah, I don't know why some find this so hard to admit. Morton is not a great defensive matchup against everyone but on a guy like Battle or Christie he's really, really good. Same crows that harps on him resulting in 4 on 5 on offense despite the fact that he played a bunch of minutes in the second half against MN when we put up 49.
That's not even close to being accurate:
Because Morton shutting down Battle never even happened. When did he fair well against Christie? I'll go back and watch. That's one of the few games I didn't catch this year.
I hear you and appreciate the response. In my opinion, I think it's more than just an assumption to say Painter is stubborn. This isn't some one-off thing.
Yeah, I wish that weren't the case and maybe Myles will surprise people and step up but I think you're right. Zach will do his thing, it's all about Braden, Fletcher and Lance this season.
This is true. He looked timid especially when he bricked that wide open look during a transition in the first half. I know he drives and gets into the lane but seemingly isn’t good at selling the foul. Not sure if refs don’t bite or if he needs to make it more obvious. Regardless, Loyer being in a groove will be the difference come March.
I actually think he needs to try and sell fouls less, not more. He's getting to the point now where he is starting to fall down before he even completes the shot. Just go strong and complete the shot, quit falling down with minimal contact. Give yourself a chance to make the shot instead of hunting for the foul.
I understand this sentiment, but don't we have enough guys afraid to shoot the ball already. If you start Loyer and bench him if he doesn't hit his first few shots, I'm not sure that's going to encourage him to shoot when he is in the games. It's a conundrum for sure.
I guess I'd have to understand specifically what you're referring to to agree or disagree with you. Most of the time when I hear fans call him stubborn it's because they disagree with his general philosophy (won't play zone, recruits offensive skill over raw athleticism when having to choose one over the other, etc.) or their statements are flat out wrong , i.e. he won't change his offensive approach (which he has many times based on personnel), he needs to recruit more modern bigs (he often recruits more mobile bigs but has often missed in landing them), he doesn't let young players play through mistakes (he does if they're good enough i.e. Biggie, Carsen, Jaden) etc.
Loyer is a big problem in the tournament. Not strong or athletic enough. I don't care about off shooting nights but his ball handling and defense are sub par. Not because of effort or know how but ability and that's what gets you beat. Who's he guarding against houston or uconn? Who on their team can't take him out of a game defensively.
From the start of the season we needed Colvin and or heide to be ready to go in March to make a run. Maybe they weren't good enough, mature enough, coached up enough or whatever but purdues got a glaring weakness. It's the same one as last year. Jones is a plus but it's very obvious what will get us beat.
I'm not following your point. Is that intended to be an example of Painter being 'stubborn'?
I'd be pleasantly surprised if he could play offense or defense against UConn, Houston, Auburn, Kentucky. Can't think of anyone else off the top of my head with as physical and quick athletes on the perimeter as those 4.
Hmmmmmm…..Gooood olllll rocky toppppppp….Fight, wildcats, Fight!
Good Lord, people just block shit out of it doesn’t support their narrative.
Lololol. Must have forgot we beat that orange team that went into Rupp and dismantled UK and we beat an Arizona team that has some athletes/nba talent haha.
Nope. Zona is soft. Auburn and Kentucky's guards >>> Tennessee's guards
You thnk Zona is physical on the peremiter or that Tennessee has better guard talent than UK and Auburn? Seriously?
Whataboutism. The topic is whether Loyer could handle Auburn and Kentucky's guards. Not whether or not we could beat either team.
I honestly don't know in this case. Maybe he couldn't coach Colvin or heide up enough to trust them.
The main point is what happens in March. We have a very long history of beating good teams in December and Jan then getting beat in March. I have my opinion as to why.
Considering UT’s top 4 guards scored more, had more boards, assists and less turnovers AT Rupp compared to UK’s top 4 guards, yes, yes I do think UT has better guards than UK. Auburns overall offense just put up 59 at home vs UKs horrible defense.
The post said “Can't think of anyone else off the top of my head with as physical and quick athletes on the perimeter as those 4.”
Kind of like how you agreed with a post that wasn't even factual (Morton didn't shut down Battle for 5 minutes).
“Can't think of anyone else off the top of my head with as physical and quick athletes on the perimeter as those 4.“
I'll take the "L" on the Vols. I really thought Knecht (6'6) and James (6'7) were SF's. I didn't realize UT lists them as Guards on their roster. Auburn has Bruce Pearl (who preaches physical D and uptempo play) and NBA talent at the guards spots. That makes me nervous to see in the Tourney.
Look at PPG on defense when Morton was in versus when he was out. You got me, I didn't watch the film to see who he guarded but the data supports that the defense was better when he was in.
Watching Houston Iowa state…not sure how Loyer would do against either one of them.
Or maybe they're just not what you want them to be, at least not yet? I think he trusts Cam, he's just not very polished offensively at this point (good spot up shooter though). I've posted this elsewhere but the expectations for Myles coming into the year were not fair to him given the low level of coaching (mostly hs) and competition he dealt with in high schools and AAU. Huge jump for him.
I didn't see anything he did against Ohio State to contribute to the defense being significantly better. Slight upgrade? Possibly. Personally, I rather have offensive production from Colvin or Heide over Morton's defense. But, that ship has sailed and we'll never know if either one of them could have produced with more extended PT and freedom to make mistakes.
I started late and just finished it. Both of those teams have some 'dudes in the backcourt. I want to say Cryer (sp?) played on that National Title winning Baylor team. Too lazy to look it up right now. I think we would all agree that Purdue can play with any team in the country if we're clicking, but after watching nearly 2 months of consistent Big Ten play those teams just looked like WOW to me from a talent standpoint.
Yeah correct on Cryer. He was a dude we were recruiting but Ivey took his spot. I was hopeful we’d get him in the portal, but Lance has worked out well. Houston just can’t score very easily/well. Iowa state has been clickin as of late and their def is just as intense as Houston’s.
