IU has more backcourt talent and will put up bigger numbers, but Purdue doesn't need or even want big numbers from its backcourt. What Purdue needs is efficiency: low turnovers and high true shooting percentages, to go along with solid defense. With so much focus on the front court and stopping Purdue in the paint, I think that Purdue has a chance to get really solid efficiency numbers from the backcourt, perhaps among the best in the conference.
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As an offshoot of the Purdue/IU thread over at the Stye I believe I have coined a new word. The word is morony. If something is ironic it involves irony. Since SNU doesn't understand the concept of irony/ironic I believe his posting often enters the realm of moronic hence the term morony applies to that which he posts.
Is the A-hope pipeline still on-going or has that more or less ground to halt due to the limited results gained for IU?
I would guess that the slap on the wrists IU got from fooling with A-Hope recruits might have redirected IU's recruiting. I know he was voted second most likely to cheat by his peers, but I think he trys reasonably hard to keep the program clean. Crean might steer away from A-Hope, unless they have a really good recruit. Maybe they don't right now, so you don't see the pipeline in action.
Remember, the personality of the coach is a bit manic. I think right now he is focused on flying all over the country throwing IU offers out the plane window as he passes over a recruit's neighborhood. IIRC he is spending an enormous amount of money on recruiting right now, IU leads the BIG in MBB recruiting spend by a large margin. In true manic fashion, he gets focused in one particular type of action and pursues it frantically.
While there will always be kids that want to play at IU because their families have always been fans, many of the more rational recruits in the state seem to avoid the catch & release strategy Crean uses, and look elsewhere. That may be why he is flying around the country.
I used to defend SNU but have come to realize he has the cognitive ability of an egg plant. Sure people are biased when it comes to their team, but he takes it to a whole new level.
Speaking of SNU, I believe it was him that wanted folks to go to the main rivals board to get unbiased options. He posted this thread about defensive improvement over there, specifically about IU jumping up the 150 spots or whatever the claim is.
http://forums.rivals.com/threads/team-defense-improvement.164340/
Funny thing is that even IU fans are commenting and saying the claims are nuts. Good stuff.
http://forums.rivals.com/threads/team-defense-improvement.164340/
Funny thing is that even IU fans are commenting and saying the claims are nuts. Good stuff.
If you go on the main Rivals board, as I did, you will find a bunch of IU guys patting UK guys on the back, and saying how good UK will be. Then the UK guys align themselves with SNU and a couple other IU boys if anyone challenges either.
The level of hypocracy and kiss-up by the IU fans (mostly SNU) on that board is pretty strong. Of course, he continues to argue against straw man positions that you never posted, and accuses everyone else of being homers. It was fun debating with a different fan base, but I doubt I will go back to that board. The cross support between UK and IU fans was sickening.
That's strange. I went there and had my usual back and forth and being called a homer and unreasonable but the only person who agreed with Snu was his second screen name da bull.If you go on the main Rivals board, as I did, you will find a bunch of IU guys patting UK guys on the back, and saying how good UK will be. Then the UK guys align themselves with SNU and a couple other IU boys if anyone challenges either.
The level of hypocracy and kiss-up by the IU fans (mostly SNU) on that board is pretty strong. Of course, he continues to argue against straw man positions that you never posted, and accuses everyone else of being homers. It was fun debating with a different fan base, but I doubt I will go back to that board. The cross support between UK and IU fans was sickening.
If you go on the main Rivals board, as I did, you will find a bunch of IU guys patting UK guys on the back, and saying how good UK will be. Then the UK guys align themselves with SNU and a couple other IU boys if anyone challenges either.
The level of hypocracy and kiss-up by the IU fans (mostly SNU) on that board is pretty strong. Of course, he continues to argue against straw man positions that you never posted, and accuses everyone else of being homers. It was fun debating with a different fan base, but I doubt I will go back to that board. The cross support between UK and IU fans was sickening.
Crean has this game circled from the get go, it's the only match up this year and we beat IU decisively in both games last year. If he could have Bob Knight give the pregame pep talk and John Mellancamp sing the National Anthem he will.
If Crean loses to Purdue again it could be the end for him. You can tell he has already started cutting corners in recruiting.
In his mind, facts are determined by how many people he can find on the web who agree with his POV. If all those people are simply him logged on under different names, it still validates his point -- in his mind.
I would guess that the slap on the wrists IU got from fooling with A-Hope recruits might have redirected IU's recruiting. I know he was voted second most likely to cheat by his peers, but I think he trys reasonably hard to keep the program clean. Crean might steer away from A-Hope, unless they have a really good recruit. Maybe they don't right now, so you don't see the pipeline in action.
Remember, the personality of the coach is a bit manic. I think right now he is focused on flying all over the country throwing IU offers out the plane window as he passes over a recruit's neighborhood. IIRC he is spending an enormous amount of money on recruiting right now, IU leads the BIG in MBB recruiting spend by a large margin. In true manic fashion, he gets focused in one particular type of action and pursues it frantically.
While there will always be kids that want to play at IU because their families have always been fans, many of the more rational recruits in the state seem to avoid the catch & release strategy Crean uses, and look elsewhere. That may be why he is flying around the country.
It's also likely that crean was given boundaries by the iu administration after he and others were found multiple times skirting the rules.
I would guess that the slap on the wrists IU got from fooling with A-Hope recruits might have redirected IU's recruiting. I know he was voted second most likely to cheat by his peers, but I think he trys reasonably hard to keep the program clean. Crean might steer away from A-Hope, unless they have a really good recruit. Maybe they don't right now, so you don't see the pipeline in action.
Remember, the personality of the coach is a bit manic. I think right now he is focused on flying all over the country throwing IU offers out the plane window as he passes over a recruit's neighborhood. IIRC he is spending an enormous amount of money on recruiting right now, IU leads the BIG in MBB recruiting spend by a large margin. In true manic fashion, he gets focused in one particular type of action and pursues it frantically.
While there will always be kids that want to play at IU because their families have always been fans, many of the more rational recruits in the state seem to avoid the catch & release strategy Crean uses, and look elsewhere. That may be why he is flying around the country.
I've been thinking about you a lot lately, SQUIRREL!
Yep. He and Bull are now saying that Bryant will stretch the defense by hitting 3's. After all of the talk about having a legit big man finally, they want him to play on the perimeter. Baffling. Bull even linked a video of the McDonald's all American practice to prove how good he is. It of course was all highlights of Bryant pushing off on smaller defenders and shooting long range unguarded. I asked about the fact that it showed zero defensive highlights from Bryant as that is what they both keep harping on as the reason IU will be better. All I got was crickets.
Classic IU delusional bandwagon fans.
He pushes off to get open? He will be a perfect complement to Yogi!!!
And he could toss in Vitale for the opening game excitement and IU would still lose. They are not much better than last year.
I'm pretty sure Da Bull and SNU are different guys. Da Bull knows basketball fairly well. Although a bit of a homer (who isn't) Da Bull will give you a good analysis. SNU reverts to a "just 'cause I said so" type argument when challenged.
You know that is true. Here is hoping that Da Bull is the sensible IU fan we have been searching for!
First off way to embellish. I never said he'd be playing on the perimeter. I did say he has the ability to shoot the 3 if they want to sag off of him in the paint and in the pick and roll/high screen game. He will shoot the ball and I welcome it. Keep the guy from sagging and it only opens up the lane for drives. He's not going to sit at the 3 line jacking up bombs all game. I also prefaced that video by saying its just highlights but gives you an idea of what he does well. He did pick Stones pocket in the vid. I quit responding because neither side was getting through, and became pointless after a point. You don't think he'll be better than Hanner, I said he will even if he simply plays the full schedule as Perea missed 9 B1G games last year. Below starting about the 1:50 mark shows some of his defense, again its just highlights in high school but he shows good awareness and timing on blocks. I don't see how he can't be better at the 5 on defense than 6'6 Hartman or 6'8 Perea who loved to take charges. He's longer, taller then both, and has a much high basketball IQ than perea.
That's not the video you shared for one. Secondly if you call that picking Stones pocket, I don't know if you understand what that means.
Here's the video you shared and Stine lost the ball all by himself and Bryant picked it up.
After watching the videos of Bryant, he is going to get abused down low from his lack of muscle as compared to others in the league. He will stretch defenses because he will have to play outside the lane for the most part.
After a year of gaining muscle that should change, but next season... no.
After a year of gaining muscle that should change, but next season... no.
Yeah I posted the other vid to show his D. Picking his pocket= a steal IMO, he knocked it out of his hands. If you think Stone lost it on his own you're either blind or living up to your username.
Maybe. Contrary to what snu thinks, AJH and Haas and probably even Biggie to an extent I think will not have any trouble with him. Biased sure, but just going off of the videos and taking in to account the sheer size of those 3, Bryant will get wore out .. especially with no real option for a backup for him.
If you are calling Stones left calf Bryant's hand, then yeah he knocked it out of his hand. You may want to rewatch it again. Bryant doesn't touch the ball until it's two feet behind Stone. Bryant left an opening to the basket and Stone tried to get pretty by dribbling behind his back to go left to the opening. He dribbles it off the back of his left calf. Not to mention the shove by Bryant when the ball is behind Stone would be called a foul.
But ask the others here what they think.
The ball is at Stone's hip when Bryant knocks it away. Pause it frame by frame at the 1:00-1:03 mark. I don't think he pushed off Stone just had his momentum being carried forward as he was making his move but could possibly be called during a true game.
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I see the poke. I still say it's stone trying to be Jordan that caused the turnover. I don't see many other bigs trying to drive from the circle in the B1G. But yeah. He stole the ball from a 6'10" guy trying to play point guard. Impressive.
Lol you just cant give any credit. Its a 1on1 drill between two centers, as simple as that but you had to argue a meaningless point.
I said I saw the poke. I don't know what else you want me to say.
I will add that if he is going to stay out of foul trouble, he will need to stop reaching on defense and shoving off on offense. IU fans love to say Purdue players are too physical and grab and shove a lot. Well he has his hands all over Stone here and the shove after the steal would probably be called a foul and negate the breakaway.
He has skills no doubt. But he will need to move his feet and keep his hands off players for IU to be able to use his skills.
Sadly, I can't/won't disagree with your manic/frantic comments. I tend to agree. I do think one can argue that he gets good enough results on the recruiting trail (generally speaking), but he's nowhere close to the top of the "bang for your buck" rankings.Remember, the personality of the coach is a bit manic. I think right now he is focused on flying all over the country throwing IU offers out the plane window as he passes over a recruit's neighborhood. IIRC he is spending an enormous amount of money on recruiting right now, IU leads the BIG in MBB recruiting spend by a large margin. In true manic fashion, he gets focused in one particular type of action and pursues it frantically.
On a related note, as a fan I feel offering so many kids every year cheapens the IU offer a little. I don't know how that's interpreted by 16/17yr-olds though; I've never heard any recruits comment "I'd feel better better about my IU offer if they hadn't offered 6 other people at my same position", but that doesn't mean they aren't thinking it.
No one did, why does this place always embelish things? Proudopete said the video showed no defense, i merely mentioned it showed bryant picking stone's pocket. We then had an argument because he didnt have his reading glasses on.
Some good quotes but another good read if you have the time.
Da Bull, You are really active on the main board. As in there are very few threads that you don't get involved in. Especially if IU or PU is mentioned. I'm curious why you only come here after the IU win? You didn't post anything here when IU was struggling earlier in the year especially in Maui. Nothing after losing at Penn State....
If you really want people to take you seriously here then you need to show up during good and bad. Otherwise you will just get lumped in with all the other bandwagon people. Maybe you don't care, but you must, because you took the time to go back and bump 2 threads from last summer.
Stick around and participate all the time, not just when it is after an IU win. Unless you are just seeing what kind of reaction you get so you can run back to the main board and report. I would welcome you and Upright Hoosier to contribute here.
If you really want people to take you seriously here then you need to show up during good and bad. Otherwise you will just get lumped in with all the other bandwagon people. Maybe you don't care, but you must, because you took the time to go back and bump 2 threads from last summer.
Stick around and participate all the time, not just when it is after an IU win. Unless you are just seeing what kind of reaction you get so you can run back to the main board and report. I would welcome you and Upright Hoosier to contribute here.
Ha probably because i already knew how bad we were playing, didn't need, want, to read anymore about it. Hell I almost stopped watching games after Maui. Honestly try not to make it a habit of posting on here considering how bad this board used to be with IU trolls. Posted a few times last spring/summer/fall in regards to the upcoming season. Had remembered some conversation today about it and figured i'd take a look back and see what was said, always fun to me to see the points of view at that time now that we are at that point we were trying to predict, not necessarily to throw things back in peoples faces. I'll try and pop in throughout the end of the year, BTT, and NCAA tourney. As wild as this year has been its only going to go up IMO. Buckle up.
Looks like you have rekindled several threads from months ago. Probably aren't going to get much response or if you do it will most likely get ugly. I don't think the folks at Peegs would be very welcoming of a PU poster that did that there either.
I very rarely go to Peegs so I don't know how many PU people post on there regularly, but my guess is not very many. Does it normally stay civil when they do?
Wouldn't know don't post on the free board, rarely post on the premium board. The posts may not be welcomed but nothing wrong with people laughing at things they said in the past. Not trying to be a prick and didn't post immediately after the IU/PU game so maybe that'll garner me a little good will, doubtful but maybe. There was some good conversation in those threads mixed in between some muck. Stephens was brought up a lot, sucks him having to deal with his situation, wish we could have seen him at full strength mentally and physically. He was the main guy i was interested in watching this year from Purdue, along with Cline who seems to be carving himself out some PT, needs more IMO.
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