Just for fun....had Painter used the portal..

[bonefish1]

Since Painter was one of the few schools not to use the portal this year, IF he had used the portal, what should he have tried to get?
A more athletic big than what we have? Another G who can handle the ball/shoo? A big guard/small forward who can penetrate and score inside?

 

[typeviic]

That is very hard to answer, since Purdue is arguably the only Power-5 basketball program (IMO) that refuses to go full-bore NIL (so far).
There are 3 scenarios...
1. Continue to do it the old-fashioned way with recruiting, because so far it has worked. This is where CMP is at and does not figure he needs to go NIL, over a recruited kid(s).
2. Join the NIL way of doing things because the recruiting method is no longer working, and conference foes are surging ahead of you.
3. See the NIL writing on the wall and retire from coaching because of it (Jay Wright). Which, BTW, would require Purdue to go ahead with a national coaching search and hire a proven coach and not a "lets hire this assistant and see what happens".

*All of the above assumes that the NCAA does not develop and enforce a NIL salary cap, so team A with alumni/boosters cant outspend team B that has alumni, but not as many boosters.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

That is very hard to answer, since Purdue is arguably the only Power-5 basketball program (IMO) that refuses to go full-bore NIL (so far).
There are 3 scenarios...
1. Continue to do it the old-fashioned way with recruiting, because so far it has worked. This is where CMP is at and does not figure he needs to go NIL, over a recruited kid(s).
2. Join the NIL way of doing things because the recruiting method is no longer working, and conference foes are surging ahead of you.
3. See the NIL writing on the wall and retire from coaching because of it (Jay Wright). Which, BTW, would require Purdue to go ahead with a national coaching search and hire a proven coach and not a "lets hire this assistant and see what happens".

*All of the above assumes that the NCAA does not develop and enforce a NIL salary cap, so team A with alumni/boosters cant outspend team B that has alumni, but not as many boosters.

Marquette didn’t this year!

 

[JRKinn]

That is very hard to answer, since Purdue is arguably the only Power-5 basketball program (IMO) that refuses to go full-bore NIL (so far).
There are 3 scenarios...
1. Continue to do it the old-fashioned way with recruiting, because so far it has worked. This is where CMP is at and does not figure he needs to go NIL, over a recruited kid(s).
2. Join the NIL way of doing things because the recruiting method is no longer working, and conference foes are surging ahead of you.
3. See the NIL writing on the wall and retire from coaching because of it (Jay Wright). Which, BTW, would require Purdue to go ahead with a national coaching search and hire a proven coach and not a "lets hire this assistant and see what happens".

*All of the above assumes that the NCAA does not develop and enforce a NIL salary cap, so team A with alumni/boosters cant outspend team B that has alumni, but not as many boosters.

Purdue is using the NIL, just differently than other schools. We are using it for retention to make sure we don't have to go hire mercs every year. So far the teams with the most success using NIL have been getting one or two really good players out of the portal. The hiring entire teams each season hasn't had very good results.

 

[PaBoiler78]

Since Painter was one of the few schools not to use the portal this year, IF he had used the portal, what should he have tried to get?
A more athletic big than what we have? Another G who can handle the ball/shoo? A big guard/small forward who can penetrate and score inside?

just off hand w/o doing any research, I think that big from Yale ( Wolf ) would have been a good add

 

[Ihaveswag29]

just off hand w/o doing any research, I think that big from Yale ( Wolf ) would have been a good add

Was going to say the exact same thing. Just an at least medium level natural 5.

 

[Boiler Buck]

@ the time of the portal we were actually over schollie limit as it was.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

just off hand w/o doing any research, I think that big from Yale ( Wolf ) would have been a good add

him or cliff…although wolf is averaging 5 turnovers a game right now

 

[bonefish1]

him or cliff…although wolf is averaging 5 turnovers a game right now

I would have like to have seen another bigger guard who can get his own shot, penetrate and finish. Marquette exposed our lack of athleticism at the guard spot, same as Uconn did.

 

[Bleedinggoldandblack]

Just for fun CMP needs to find some 6"11 forwards and 6'5" athletic guards if we are going to keep up with college basketball and a 7 "9" center whose athletic with good hands and footwork....outside of that things look good. 🤣

 

[ChoiceBeef]

Nick Pringle.....Coleman Hawkins.....Eddie Lampkin......

Honestly, it is hard to decide who at the 5 spot I would take because it was going to cost a lot for a mercenary on multiple angles. Highlighted 3 troubled children above.

Would have like Cliff because he is physical, provides shot blocking and rebounding. That is what is killing us right now. I don't know where this convo would be today if Jacobsen didn't get injured and lost for the year....

 

[ChoiceBeef]

Ok, one other thing that is good for laughs.

Labaron Philon from Arkansas, the kid who seemingly couldn't miss against us. Elite freshman guard....he was going to be at Kansas. What happened? Well, Bill Self decided that AJ Storr was more important for their team so he got the boot for Storr.

I would take Philon over Storr.

 

[qazplm]

Hawkins here would have been a ridiculously good addition.

 

[boilerzz]

Hawkins here would have been a ridiculously good addition.

Not sure what is going on with him at K-State but Woof!

Season	Team	Conf	Class	Pos	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	Awards
2020-21	Illinois	Big Ten	FR	F	25	0	6.3	0.4	1.2	.345	0.1	0.5	.231	0.3	0.6	.438	.397	0.5	0.8	.684	0.4	0.5	0.8	0.4	0.1	0.4	0.2	0.6	1.4
2021-22	Illinois	Big Ten	SO	F	33	14	19.0	2.1	4.7	.442	0.6	2.0	.292	1.5	2.7	.551	.503	1.2	1.8	.650	1.4	2.8	4.3	1.5	0.8	0.5	1.4	1.9	5.9
2022-23	Illinois	Big Ten	JR	F	33	33	32.5	3.7	8.5	.441	1.1	4.0	.280	2.6	4.5	.585	.507	1.3	2.1	.614	1.9	4.3	6.3	3.0	1.1	1.2	2.5	1.8	9.9
2023-24	Illinois	Big Ten	SR	F	35	35	31.6	4.1	9.1	.451	1.7	4.6	.369	2.4	4.5	.535	.544	2.2	2.7	.792	1.4	4.7	6.1	2.7	1.5	1.1	1.6	2.6	12.1
2024-25	Kansas State	Big 12	SR	F	4	4	31.8	2.3	9.3	.243	0.8	3.8	.200	1.5	5.5	.273	.284	1.5	2.5	.600	3.0	4.0	7.0	4.0	2.3	1.5	2.3	1.0	6.8

 

[ChoiceBeef]

Not sure what is going on with him at K-State but Woof!

Season	Team	Conf	Class	Pos	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	Awards
2020-21	Illinois	Big Ten	FR	F	25	0	6.3	0.4	1.2	.345	0.1	0.5	.231	0.3	0.6	.438	.397	0.5	0.8	.684	0.4	0.5	0.8	0.4	0.1	0.4	0.2	0.6	1.4
2021-22	Illinois	Big Ten	SO	F	33	14	19.0	2.1	4.7	.442	0.6	2.0	.292	1.5	2.7	.551	.503	1.2	1.8	.650	1.4	2.8	4.3	1.5	0.8	0.5	1.4	1.9	5.9
2022-23	Illinois	Big Ten	JR	F	33	33	32.5	3.7	8.5	.441	1.1	4.0	.280	2.6	4.5	.585	.507	1.3	2.1	.614	1.9	4.3	6.3	3.0	1.1	1.2	2.5	1.8	9.9
2023-24	Illinois	Big Ten	SR	F	35	35	31.6	4.1	9.1	.451	1.7	4.6	.369	2.4	4.5	.535	.544	2.2	2.7	.792	1.4	4.7	6.1	2.7	1.5	1.1	1.6	2.6	12.1
2024-25	Kansas State	Big 12	SR	F	4	4	31.8	2.3	9.3	.243	0.8	3.8	.200	1.5	5.5	.273	.284	1.5	2.5	.600	3.0	4.0	7.0	4.0	2.3	1.5	2.3	1.0	6.8

I am not judging based on a handful of games but something isn't jiving just yet for KSU.

My assumption, he heard he was going to play home games in Manhattan and thought that was in NYC not Kansas.....

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Marquette didn’t this year!

FIRE SHAKA !!!

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

I would have like to have seen another bigger guard who can get his own shot, penetrate and finish. Marquette exposed our lack of athleticism at the guard spot, same as Uconn did.

How many teams this year can do that you think?

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Not sure what is going on with him at K-State but Woof!

Season	Team	Conf	Class	Pos	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	Awards
2020-21	Illinois	Big Ten	FR	F	25	0	6.3	0.4	1.2	.345	0.1	0.5	.231	0.3	0.6	.438	.397	0.5	0.8	.684	0.4	0.5	0.8	0.4	0.1	0.4	0.2	0.6	1.4
2021-22	Illinois	Big Ten	SO	F	33	14	19.0	2.1	4.7	.442	0.6	2.0	.292	1.5	2.7	.551	.503	1.2	1.8	.650	1.4	2.8	4.3	1.5	0.8	0.5	1.4	1.9	5.9
2022-23	Illinois	Big Ten	JR	F	33	33	32.5	3.7	8.5	.441	1.1	4.0	.280	2.6	4.5	.585	.507	1.3	2.1	.614	1.9	4.3	6.3	3.0	1.1	1.2	2.5	1.8	9.9
2023-24	Illinois	Big Ten	SR	F	35	35	31.6	4.1	9.1	.451	1.7	4.6	.369	2.4	4.5	.535	.544	2.2	2.7	.792	1.4	4.7	6.1	2.7	1.5	1.1	1.6	2.6	12.1
2024-25	Kansas State	Big 12	SR	F	4	4	31.8	2.3	9.3	.243	0.8	3.8	.200	1.5	5.5	.273	.284	1.5	2.5	.600	3.0	4.0	7.0	4.0	2.3	1.5	2.3	1.0	6.8

Yeah something is up but would have been great had he come here. He’d def be having a better season haha

 

[johnboiler123]

I would’ve liked to see us ditch berg and grab another center

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

I would’ve liked to see us ditch berg and grab another center

Haha (I assume) you’re joking cuz in reality that’d look really bad with future players haha. But I guess other teams do it …but that ain’t paint

 

[proudopete]

It’s clear that Painter was all in on Jacobsen at the five this year and to get him experience for our run next year.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

It’s clear that Painter was all in on Jacobsen at the five this year and to get him experience for our run next year.

Yeah he very well may have used the “not going to bring in a portal guy on top of you” as part of his pitch to DJ.

 

[johnboiler123]

Haha (I assume) you’re joking cuz in reality that’d look really bad with future players haha. But I guess other teams do it …but that ain’t paint

Players transfer all the time. No recruit would bat an eye at a guy like berg transferring to a lower level where he’s more suited to play.

 

[Roeder]

Not sure what is going on with him at K-State but Woof!

Season	Team	Conf	Class	Pos	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS	Awards
2020-21	Illinois	Big Ten	FR	F	25	0	6.3	0.4	1.2	.345	0.1	0.5	.231	0.3	0.6	.438	.397	0.5	0.8	.684	0.4	0.5	0.8	0.4	0.1	0.4	0.2	0.6	1.4
2021-22	Illinois	Big Ten	SO	F	33	14	19.0	2.1	4.7	.442	0.6	2.0	.292	1.5	2.7	.551	.503	1.2	1.8	.650	1.4	2.8	4.3	1.5	0.8	0.5	1.4	1.9	5.9
2022-23	Illinois	Big Ten	JR	F	33	33	32.5	3.7	8.5	.441	1.1	4.0	.280	2.6	4.5	.585	.507	1.3	2.1	.614	1.9	4.3	6.3	3.0	1.1	1.2	2.5	1.8	9.9
2023-24	Illinois	Big Ten	SR	F	35	35	31.6	4.1	9.1	.451	1.7	4.6	.369	2.4	4.5	.535	.544	2.2	2.7	.792	1.4	4.7	6.1	2.7	1.5	1.1	1.6	2.6	12.1
2024-25	Kansas State	Big 12	SR	F	4	4	31.8	2.3	9.3	.243	0.8	3.8	.200	1.5	5.5	.273	.284	1.5	2.5	.600	3.0	4.0	7.0	4.0	2.3	1.5	2.3	1.0	6.8

Take the money and run Coleman!

Tang should be fired for giving a career 10 and 5 guy 2 million or whatever he got. He's always been overrated IMO.

 

[Bank Shot Podcast]

AJ Storr
Zeke Mayo
Oumar Ballo
Kadary Richmond
Johnell Davis
Kanaan Carlyle
Myles Rice
Jaxson Robinson
Great Osobor

There are a few. A more athletic wing than Loyer that can play the 2 or 3 that could have stepped into Jones place and/or a center.