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Jobbed by the ref’s

The affect of gambling on sports is well known. How about the Black Sox. How about point shaving in basketball to influence the final score and possibly not the win. With being given points to make the betting even, point shaving also now must occur in football. Do you really think things have gotten better with more widespread betting and more money being bet on games? When the calls by refs are poor against one team at the begining of the game and you see the same happening at the end of the game to cause a different outcome, you have to suspect betting is why. How come some glaring penalties right in front of a ref or two are ignored, and then other minor ones normally never penalized are suddenly called against a team. It's easy for the refs to determine the outcome of a game if the scores are close, and they do. There's so much money involved in football and other sports that anyone involved in the game should be suspect, from the league itself down to the players, and certainly the refs.

Well said and exactly what I have been thinking is happening. We just need to get organized crime to put their money on Purdue.
 
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I told my son it looked like a fixed game in the first half with our first spot of football.
I noticed the same thing, the spotting of the football was interesting all game for both teams, even in the second half when a different ref was doing it. They seemed to like spotting it at the hash marks rather than between.

I don’t know if it materially affected Purdue though. Seemed like they were consistently spotting it short for both sides, but the TV angle can be deceiving too.
 
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Let me start by saying Durham had no business getting that flag, but it did seem there was enough jawing and pushing by both sides to be offsetting penalties. That being said, the refs were not the reason Purdue lost this game.
Sorry, but we played well enough to win. The refs gave that game to Cuse.
 
Brohm didn’t throw the ball directly to the other team for a pick 6.
Lots to be desired from the staff today but this was on the players and the refs.
It was very much a collective effort...Coaching was really bad...refs were flat brutal...and, players absolutely contributed (in the wrong way).

That is a game that just typifies Purdue about as perfectly as any...that game was so there for the taking, for the course of it, and, Purdue just failed in every way to take advantage and STILL had a great chance somehow to win it despite that, and, then got screwed, but, sucked as well with respect to making a stop when it mattered...never mind, mattered most.
 
I know it was Roberto Clemente Day the other day, and, I think the Rays used an entire Latin lineup...today must have been National Ineptness Day, and, the B1G was rolling out the most inept guys that they could locate.

When I saw that Lamont Simpson was doing the game, I knew Purdue was in trouble...that guy sucks in basketball, and, seemingly hates Purdue...that he does this on the side, when he is as bad at what he does for basketball, is mind boggling that he is a B1G official...then again, and, I have said it for years, that they don't care at all on the basketball-side who is doing games or how bad they are, I guess it is no surprise to find the same for football. I am surprised he did not call off-setting PI on the call that he blew late...literally immediately after having blown the catch call inbounds on the play before. He was just DYING to screw Purdue, and, managed to succeed.
 
In the post game video Brohm basically said , I talked to Payne and he said he got pushed and just said something back so I went and tried to get an explanation from the official"

Really? You ask a player why they just got a penalty and you accept their explanation as the objective truth? So much so that you go and challenge the referee with enough aggression that you get a penalty. And then you try an say I was jsut trying to get an explanation.

Brohm's explanation is flawed at so many levels. I hope on further reflection he learns from his mistake and does better,
 
Quit with all this “the fix was in”, “the refs had money in the game”.BS.
we know that’s not true.
what is true, is that during the course of a game , there’s going to be questionable calls, judgement calls and yes, some bad calls. But those calls don’t decide the game….:the actions leading to a call do.
Right now, Purdue is undisciplined: and it cost them a win.
Sullivan, absolutely inexcusable late hit. Basically a turnover.
Durham: you’re going to let the opponent call your mama ugly and then draw a flag because you can’t control your emotions. Inexcusable.
ST coach drawing a flag? You kidding me?
DBs consistently not getting their head around and finding the ball? Coaching.
 
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Agree. It didnt look that bad, but dont know what was said. To call two penalties on the same dead ball in THAT game situation was garbage imo. It wasnt pass interference...it wasnt holding. Tuck the flags and tell the players to stfu. Instead, give one team a huge advantage in the game ON the field.
Clock, mgmt as well as well as the running game, are still probs.
Totally agree. ‘In that situation’ there is no way in the world a ref can make TWO calls like that with so much at stake. You have to let the players decide the game on the field. I mean seriously, you called one penalty, you don’t back it up with another one. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team kick off from the 10 yard line. Yeah, I’ll admit it “we screwed the game up“ with our mouse and in ability to control our behavior, but the refs should be ashamed
 
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The affect of gambling on sports is well known. How about the Black Sox. How about point shaving in basketball to influence the final score and possibly not the win. With being given points to make the betting even, point shaving also now must occur in football. Do you really think things have gotten better with more widespread betting and more money being bet on games? When the calls by refs are poor against one team at the begining of the game and you see the same happening at the end of the game to cause a different outcome, you have to suspect betting is why. How come some glaring penalties right in front of a ref or two are ignored, and then other minor ones normally never penalized are suddenly called against a team. It's easy for the refs to determine the outcome of a game if the scores are close, and they do. There's so much money involved in football and other sports that anyone involved in the game should be suspect, from the league itself down to the players, and certainly the refs.
Ridiculous take.

Every major professional sports league as well as college football and basketball have massive deals and sponsorships with the major sportsbooks and online betting apps. Last thing in the world they want is to have their games compromised. Draftkings or FanDuel would pull their partnerships in an instant if they knew games were fixed. There's a reason why the NFL suspended Calvin Ridley over an 8 team $100 parlay (which is the lowest probability bet you can make) in an instance where he was inactive and not even playing in the game. The conspiracy that Purdue is always on the short end of the stick every time they lose because the fix is in against them is exhausting.
 
Ridiculous take.

Every major professional sports league as well as college football and basketball have massive deals and sponsorships with the major sportsbooks and online betting apps. Last thing in the world they want is to have their games compromised. Draftkings or FanDuel would pull their partnerships in an instant if they knew games were fixed. There's a reason why the NFL suspended Calvin Ridley over an 8 team $100 parlay (which is the lowest probability bet you can make) in an instance where he was inactive and not even playing in the game. The conspiracy that Purdue is always on the short end of the stick every time they lose because the fix is in against them is exhausting.
To make matters worse Treacherous Troll Tiny Tim Weasel Welcher is back! The sewer misses you Trolly. Please slither back!
 
I beleive i saw you being critical of the refs as well. This is the worst ive seen and cant be all just judgement errors. That late flag was ridiculous on an uncatchable ball and what i saw was offensive pi. Look up steven pamon. That was a big ten cover up for sure
 
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Go all the way back to the Syracuse's First Touchdown while it was an obvious call on the previous play that Allen held if you look at the replay you can obviously see a Syracuse lineman holding our #17 in the same frame which would have resulted in off setting penalties. Way TOO many questionable calls or non-calls one on Jones running into the end zone trying to catch a pass while being held by the front of his jersey. Can't say the officials they were B1G Officials or from somewhere else or were biased but they certainly were inept and at best should be given a D- grade!
 
Go all the way back to the Syracuse's First Touchdown while it was an obvious call on the previous play that Allen held if you look at the replay you can obviously see a Syracuse lineman holding our #17 in the same frame which would have resulted in off setting penalties. Way TOO many questionable calls or non-calls one on Jones running into the end zone trying to catch a pass while being held by the front of his jersey. Can't say the officials they were B1G Officials or from somewhere else or were biased but they certainly were inept and at best should be given a D- grade!
Worst ive seen purdue get screwed in football ever. And ive seen some real screwings
 
As a bit outsider here, I think back to tough losses over years. While true that lots of plays can impact a game, there is the concept of grabbing defeat from jaws of victory. That is despite of all bad plays or refs, you have game in hand with little time left, say under 2m and can only do something foolish to lose. That is usually the area to blame. I think back to Penix and that crazy play against PSU where touched cone when knee looked down in OT. Some PSU fans blame refs but how about our QB kneels in reg to run down clock to 20s and let IU try to score at their 15 with no TOs? Our RB was not told to sit his arse down then scores to give IU ball with 1:15 and time out with opportunity to tie with a TD and 2 pt, which they did. Not trying to salt wounds but Durham and your coach shut their mouths then Purdue wins. That is discipline and management problem with Brohm. You have a good team that has lots play for. You have some tough road games with MN and UW. I will be pulling for Purdue. Your team has all the talent to win the West. Best of luck.
 
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The affect of gambling on sports is well known. How about the Black Sox. How about point shaving in basketball to influence the final score and possibly not the win. With being given points to make the betting even, point shaving also now must occur in football. Do you really think things have gotten better with more widespread betting and more money being bet on games? When the calls by refs are poor against one team at the begining of the game and you see the same happening at the end of the game to cause a different outcome, you have to suspect betting is why. How come some glaring penalties right in front of a ref or two are ignored, and then other minor ones normally never penalized are suddenly called against a team. It's easy for the refs to determine the outcome of a game if the scores are close, and they do. There's so much money involved in football and other sports that anyone involved in the game should be suspect, from the league itself down to the players, and certainly the refs.
I’ve kind of wondered for years if the brotherhood of the big ten refs just like to stick it to Purdue here and there because of Tiller’s complaints about officiating to the big ten office. Particularly the Penn State game in 2007 where Tiller filled an official complaint. What followed was a gambling investigation into a ref where the Big Ten eventually cleared him, but they did not renew his contract for the next season. There was also an article in the exponent about Tiller wanting to be able to blacklist officials. Do you think the referee fraternity liked all his complaints? The refs want you to take the bad calls, sit down and shut up about it.
I’m not saying Tiller should not have complained. In fact, I’m glad he did, but I always wonder about payback.
 
I’ve kind of wondered for years if the brotherhood of the big ten refs just like to stick it to Purdue here and there because of Tiller’s complaints about officiating to the big ten office. Particularly the Penn State game in 2007 where Tiller filled an official complaint. What followed was a gambling investigation into a ref where the Big Ten eventually cleared him, but they did not renew his contract for the next season. There was also an article in the exponent about Tiller wanting to be able to blacklist officials. Do you think the referee fraternity liked all his complaints? The refs want you to take the bad calls, sit down and shut up about it.
I’m not saying Tiller should not have complained. In fact, I’m glad he did, but I always wonder about payback.
Tiller was right...Brohm would be as well.

I don't believe even a little that THAT is the issue here, but, that crew yesterday was terrible...from the outset, and, just got worse for that matter until the literal very end.

It was as one-sided ultimately as I can recall a game being, and, I say that having grown up in South Bend (and disliking ND more than anyone).

What happened yesterday was disgraceful...that there will be no accountability, more so...that chances are Purdue could somehow see that same crew of incredible ineptness as soon as two weeks from now is mind boggling.
 
Sorry, but we played well enough to win. The refs gave that game to Cuse.
That’s questionable. They certainly didn’t play smart enough to win.

Kind of the same deal around here in basketball season, don’t give the refs the opportunity to affect the game, because they will and not the way you want it to go.
 
Despite the conspiracy that the refs were trying to screw Purdue, all Purdue had to do was keep their mouth shut, kick it out of the end zone and make SU drive 75 yards in 57 seconds for the win. I like Purdue’s odds without giving them the ball at the 50.
 
Despite the conspiracy that the refs were trying to screw Purdue, all Purdue had to do was keep their mouth shut, kick it out of the end zone and make SU drive 75 yards in 57 seconds for the win. I like Purdue’s odds without giving them the ball at the 50.
"Like" is strong...but, they would certainly have been better...

Purdue was largely its own worst enemy, but, they did get screwed on that last drive for sure...they were screwed a couple of times during the game, but, the last drive was egregiously bad.

I don't have faith that they would have prevailed regardless, as, they are just terrible when a key stop is critical...they did nothing at all to slow, much less stop PSU on its last drive, and, they were terrible again yesterday on that last drive with respect to absolutely no pass rush, guys running around wide open and guys totally out of position or clueless as to what they were supposed to be doing.
 
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Everyone hates Purdue! Loser mentality.

The referees don't hate Purdue. The people on this board are victims of confirmation bias.

This is how confirmation bias is described in Wikipedia:

Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs or values.[1] People display this bias when they select information that supports their views, ignoring contrary information, or when they interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing attitudes. The effect is strongest for desired outcomes, for emotionally charged issues, and for deeply entrenched beliefs. Confirmation bias cannot be eliminated, but it can be managed, for example, by education and training in critical thinking skills.
 
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