IU did not deserve to be in CFP. Great article by USA Today
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And the same ESPN that had him living on the McAfee Show.
So the media and network that promoted and fell in love with Curt Cignetti because his saltiness is great for ratings won’t want those ratings anymore and will be mad at him.
Gotcha. 🤭
Actually, I was thinking the media who will never vote a team like IU into the CFP.... again
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Woof. This has gotten to an obsessive degree. It’d be one thing if Purdue fans were the only people on earth saying they had a weak schedule and not a single analyst or national newspaper were saying the same thing. But to hover around a rivals board weeks after your season has ended, yikes. Everyone ignore these trolls and they’ll crawl back into their holes.
Here's a great article from the Athletic that summarizes the whole nonsense-narrative from SEC apologists:The strength of schedule needs to be a bigger part of the CFP selection process. IU's performance last night showed exactly what we all knew, IU did not deserve to be in the CFP. Cig's argument that they streamrolled their opponents doesn't hold water, since they beat the lower half of the CFP members this year. There is not a top 20 team that their team could have beat this year. I guess they can at least put up a banner that they made the CFP.
Here is a great USA Today article talking about this stupid CFP committee decision and there was no way that IU should have been in the top 12 for the CFP.
Indiana's loss to Notre Dame was College Football Playoff mistake that can't happen again
Forget about the meaningless late touchdowns, Indiana didn't belong in the College Football Playoff at Notre Dame. The mistake can't happen again.www.usatoday.com
Alabama loss to Michigan shows Indiana, SMU deserve apology for Playoff bid criticism
By Chris Vannini
Dec 31, 2024
The college football pundit class owes Indiana and SMU an apology.
The Hoosiers and then the Mustangs saw their names get dragged after their lopsided first-round College Football Playoff losses. By Kirk Herbstreit. By Paul Finebaum. By a trolling Lane Kiffin on X. By many others. All because of the hypothetical image in our heads of the SEC and specifically what Alabama, the first team left out of the Playoff, used to be.
People didn’t even wait for the first round to finish before burying Indiana. Surely SEC teams would’ve been more competitive. The point spreads! The NFL players!
Hypothetical Alabama is undefeated. Don’t worry about those pesky bad losses.
“Indiana was outclassed in that game,” Herbstreit said on “College GameDay” the morning after the Hoosiers’ loss. “It was not a team that should’ve been on that field when you consider other teams that could’ve been there.”
About that …
A few hours after SMU’s 38-10 loss at Penn State, Tennessee lost 42-17 to Ohio State to close out the first round. Then, on Tuesday, a nearly full-strength Alabama team lost 19-13 to a Michigan team playing without most of its star players in the ReliaQuest Bowl (and South Carolina followed by losing 21-17 to Illinois in the Citrus Bowl).
Whoops.
GO DEEPER
Shorthanded Michigan stuns No. 11 Alabama in ReliaQuest Bowl
You know who actually did beat Michigan? Indiana. You know who played a closer game at Ohio State than Tennessee did? Indiana.
SMU quarterback Kevin Jennings had three turnovers in the first half at Penn State, costing his team. Alabama QB Jalen Milroe had three turnovers in the first quarter against Michigan, costing his team. Turns out, bad days happen.
Herbstreit’s a smart analyst. He’s immensely respected by coaches, and deservedly so. He’s usually more measured than what we saw him say about Indiana. The guy won’t even make predictions for games he announces.
Which is why watching people melt down on TV and on social media over Indiana and SMU during the first round of the Playoff was a bizarre spectacle. As if we’d never had CFP blowouts before.
Yes, the SEC is the most talented and strongest conference. That doesn’t guarantee anything. Anyone who watched Alabama this year knew it wasn’t a typical Alabama team. The ceiling was high, with a win against Georgia and a blowout of LSU. But the floor was also low, with losses to Oklahoma (which finished 6-7) and Vanderbilt (7-6).
To go to bat so hard for this specific Alabama team and tear down teams like Indiana and SMU, which had their best seasons in at least a generation, felt off-base and honestly quite mean in real time. In hindsight, it was also just plain wrong.
Would Ole Miss, South Carolina or Miami have played more competitive Playoff games? We don’t know. That’s the point. Critics were so set in their beliefs without remembering this is college football and weird things happen all the time. You have to make selections based on a small set of data.
Everyone knew from the moment the 12-team Playoff format was announced that the teams at the bottom of the bracket wouldn’t be true national title contenders. We all said a team that gets left out won’t have much of a leg to stand on, especially compared to undefeated Florida State in 2023.
And yet so many people fell into the trap because the sport is built on debate and because the generational juggernaut that is Alabama was on the bubble, pitted against surprise upstarts in Indiana and SMU.
The first two CFP games confirmed a narrative. The rest of the games confirmed the opposite. We all yelled at each other for nothing. And now Herbstreit probably needs to stay out of his social media mentions for the next 12 months.
And by the way, no more citing hypothetical point spreads to make arguments, please. It’s a made-up talking point that fans and even people like Nick Saban use to push an agenda.
Alabama was a 22.5-point favorite against Vanderbilt, a 14-point favorite against Oklahoma and a 16.5-point favorite against Michigan. It lost all three games. Enough with the nonsense. What’s the point of playing games if Vegas oddsmakers can create a more competitive outcome?
Alabama lost three games to unranked teams in Kalen DeBoer’s first season. Saban went 123-4 in such games. It’s a new era for the sport, and the old Alabama is gone.
The committee got the 12 teams right. I said it the day of the selection show. It remains true today. That doesn’t mean Indiana or SMU could’ve won the national title. The 12-team Playoff isn’t just about the national championship. It’s about creating more access. It did that.
This is a fun sport full of unexpected outcomes. That’s why we love it. The next time you find yourself tearing down someone to defend a team not even ranked in the top 10, maybe take a step back and think about it first.
If you want to question the value of wins, make sure the next team up, you know, actually wins.
(Photo: Douglas P. DeFelice / Getty Images)
Wow! I seriously can't believe you are still here.Here's a great article from the Athletic that summarizes the whole nonsense-narrative from SEC apologists:
Alabama loss to Michigan shows Indiana, SMU deserve apology for Playoff bid criticism
By Chris Vannini
Dec 31, 2024
The college football pundit class owes Indiana and SMU an apology.
The Hoosiers and then the Mustangs saw their names get dragged after their lopsided first-round College Football Playoff losses. By Kirk Herbstreit. By Paul Finebaum. By a trolling Lane Kiffin on X. By many others. All because of the hypothetical image in our heads of the SEC and specifically what Alabama, the first team left out of the Playoff, used to be.
People didn’t even wait for the first round to finish before burying Indiana. Surely SEC teams would’ve been more competitive. The point spreads! The NFL players!
Hypothetical Alabama is undefeated. Don’t worry about those pesky bad losses.
“Indiana was outclassed in that game,” Herbstreit said on “College GameDay” the morning after the Hoosiers’ loss. “It was not a team that should’ve been on that field when you consider other teams that could’ve been there.”
About that …
A few hours after SMU’s 38-10 loss at Penn State, Tennessee lost 42-17 to Ohio State to close out the first round. Then, on Tuesday, a nearly full-strength Alabama team lost 19-13 to a Michigan team playing without most of its star players in the ReliaQuest Bowl (and South Carolina followed by losing 21-17 to Illinois in the Citrus Bowl).
Whoops.
GO DEEPER
Shorthanded Michigan stuns No. 11 Alabama in ReliaQuest Bowl
You know who actually did beat Michigan? Indiana. You know who played a closer game at Ohio State than Tennessee did? Indiana.
SMU quarterback Kevin Jennings had three turnovers in the first half at Penn State, costing his team. Alabama QB Jalen Milroe had three turnovers in the first quarter against Michigan, costing his team. Turns out, bad days happen.
Herbstreit’s a smart analyst. He’s immensely respected by coaches, and deservedly so. He’s usually more measured than what we saw him say about Indiana. The guy won’t even make predictions for games he announces.
Which is why watching people melt down on TV and on social media over Indiana and SMU during the first round of the Playoff was a bizarre spectacle. As if we’d never had CFP blowouts before.
Yes, the SEC is the most talented and strongest conference. That doesn’t guarantee anything. Anyone who watched Alabama this year knew it wasn’t a typical Alabama team. The ceiling was high, with a win against Georgia and a blowout of LSU. But the floor was also low, with losses to Oklahoma (which finished 6-7) and Vanderbilt (7-6).
To go to bat so hard for this specific Alabama team and tear down teams like Indiana and SMU, which had their best seasons in at least a generation, felt off-base and honestly quite mean in real time. In hindsight, it was also just plain wrong.
Would Ole Miss, South Carolina or Miami have played more competitive Playoff games? We don’t know. That’s the point. Critics were so set in their beliefs without remembering this is college football and weird things happen all the time. You have to make selections based on a small set of data.
Everyone knew from the moment the 12-team Playoff format was announced that the teams at the bottom of the bracket wouldn’t be true national title contenders. We all said a team that gets left out won’t have much of a leg to stand on, especially compared to undefeated Florida State in 2023.
And yet so many people fell into the trap because the sport is built on debate and because the generational juggernaut that is Alabama was on the bubble, pitted against surprise upstarts in Indiana and SMU.
The first two CFP games confirmed a narrative. The rest of the games confirmed the opposite. We all yelled at each other for nothing. And now Herbstreit probably needs to stay out of his social media mentions for the next 12 months.
And by the way, no more citing hypothetical point spreads to make arguments, please. It’s a made-up talking point that fans and even people like Nick Saban use to push an agenda.
Alabama was a 22.5-point favorite against Vanderbilt, a 14-point favorite against Oklahoma and a 16.5-point favorite against Michigan. It lost all three games. Enough with the nonsense. What’s the point of playing games if Vegas oddsmakers can create a more competitive outcome?
Alabama lost three games to unranked teams in Kalen DeBoer’s first season. Saban went 123-4 in such games. It’s a new era for the sport, and the old Alabama is gone.
The committee got the 12 teams right. I said it the day of the selection show. It remains true today. That doesn’t mean Indiana or SMU could’ve won the national title. The 12-team Playoff isn’t just about the national championship. It’s about creating more access. It did that.
This is a fun sport full of unexpected outcomes. That’s why we love it. The next time you find yourself tearing down someone to defend a team not even ranked in the top 10, maybe take a step back and think about it first.
If you want to question the value of wins, make sure the next team up, you know, actually wins.
(Photo: Douglas P. DeFelice / Getty Images)
Dude, just give it a rest. Your life can't truly be this desperate.
The desperation for our acceptance is real.
You're on a rivals forum at 10:16 PM ... CONSTANTLY trying to convince PURDUE fans that Indinia belonged. The fact that we aren't bending the knee to you clearly is under your skin or you simply wouldn't be here. It would be one thing if this was a Indinia forum, but it isn't... so you have to make a determined effort to come here in the first place and then take the time to post your drivel and on more than one account.
So no, this is 100% about you needing our acceptance and making yourself feel better as if it weren't for your infestation of the forum here, this topic would likely have died a long time ago.. It's also rather sad that needs explained to you, but then again you struggle to even count to 10 as we have seen so I really shouldn't surprised.
Kinda creepy that I posted about Indiana Football in a “rivals” (ironically—that’s exactly what IU and Purdue are) forum thread about Indiana Football, and your first critical takeaway is that you noticed it was 10:16 pm. Is there an appropriate time or is that too late in the evening? Missed that as a red flag.
Anyway- back to the topic at hand in this thread—IU Football and the CFP!
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12,14 or 36 doesn't mean anything if players are able to purge themselves from teams that are in a championship run.
After a 1-11 season, most of us true Purdue fans are disappointed that players left the team..... Players leaving OSU or Penn St.
Is kinda mind blowing........
The Hurrying Loosiers, who lurk here often, are still whining because all of the experts have said they shouldn’t have been invited to the CFP after ND curb stomped them with ease. They’ve apparently tried to harass Herbstreit on several occasions, and he’s been pretty vocal about what idiots the Indinia fans are after all of that. None have the sense two just shut up. Maybe getting chased off twitter wasn’t enough for them. Lol
Not whining. This is fun!
Instead of whining, the IU fan base is celebrating an 11-2 season and a very well deserved spot in the College Football Playoffs!!
And “all” of the experts haven’t said that.
Would you like to see proof of experts that very much thought IU Football was very deserving?
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It's hilarious to see the Indinia fans here STILL begging for our approval. They keep bumping a thread on a PURDUE forum clamoring for our acceptance.
At this point it's reached such a sad state, all you can laugh at their desperation (well .. even more than we already do).
At this point it's reached such a sad state, all you can laugh at their desperation (well .. even more than we already do).
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Nice bump! 👆 Here's the reality; when someone posts off-topic insults I have responded to get this Indiana Football thread back on topic!
The topic is - did Indiana's 11-1 regular season merit inclusion in the College Football Playoffs?
Here's the latest update as a way of re-directing the thread from off-topic bumps back to its on-topic substance: After last night, I can factually state that IU's 11-1 regular season was ended with a ten point loss to a Notre Dame team that will be playing for the national championship. In fact, if OSU beats Texas, IU's only two losses will be to the two teams in the national championship game!
While I question IU's spot in the playoff's (their schedule was pretty weak) I do congratulate them on a nice season compared to what the past few seasons have been. Do I see Cig doing it again, no I don't.
As stated elsewhere, any once-beaten team from the Big Ten certainly belongs in the nation’s top eight, despite outcry by fans whose own team answered 66 points with 67 yards. We have zero room to talk this year, although we can always point to all the P’s on the Bucket chain and note there’s a lot more where those came from, 77-43-6 in all. Talk about a blowout. Plus, it’s fitting to yank the chain of any supporter of the losingest program in NCAA history whose schedule boasted the two all-time worst programs by percentage. That’s downright smelly.
