Of all those potential replacements the one that I would least like to see long term would be Prohm. Almost unknown outside of the MVC and the mid south but a true rising star. Biggest question in my mind is how well he recruits at a school with a little tougher academic standards than what he has had to deal with at Murray State. His team will make a little noise in the tournament if they don't get ambushed in the MVC tournament. Have second longest winning streak in the country at 24 in a row after opening 2-4 and ranked in the top 25. Good D and uptempo offense. Might not be quite ready to make the jump to a B1G program yet but he's not going to be at MSU much longer.
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You're only here because you're the little brother trying to make himself feel better after getting beat up. In other words, you're still ticked about Purdue owning IU and you're bitter.
#sweep
#Broomington
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Re: Now, here is evidence and proof (since you obviously are an idiot)
But what if Crean isn't planning on leaving and feels he can use his immense coaching ability to turn this around. We already know his ego is in line with this. Add in Glass feeling the same way. What you get then is another year of what you have.
I have seen zero evidnece from Crean that he is the type of guy who walks away peacefully or admits failure.
But what if Crean isn't planning on leaving and feels he can use his immense coaching ability to turn this around. We already know his ego is in line with this. Add in Glass feeling the same way. What you get then is another year of what you have.
I have seen zero evidnece from Crean that he is the type of guy who walks away peacefully or admits failure.
Btwon, I just spoke with my guy in Dayton (needed to talk about an appt. next week) and he said folks in Dayton love Miller because he has done all of the right things with players. He swears he's clean, he's fair, and that he's a hell of a coach. When I "suggested" that IU might be looking at him to replace Crean, his words were, "I've been hearing that for two days".
And he again talked about how folks in Dayton, while they won't have the money to keep him, don't want him to leave.
With all this bravado and smoke in the air, IU guys walking around sticking their chests out, crowing about getting any coach they want...
...won't it be funny when they find out Crean is staying for another year?
I will laugh my ass off.
...won't it be funny when they find out Crean is staying for another year?
I will laugh my ass off.
I'm guessing he's taking a job at an Ivy League school where his intellectual abilities will be appreciated. I'm gonna miss the post game posts on the Stye entitled "Coach Crean Verbatim" with the picture that always looks like he swallowed a turd.
Re: Now, here is evidence and proof (since you obviously are an idiot)
Remember....in Crean's contract he owes IU $8,000,000 if he walks away. Negotiations go both ways and if you're married you already know this, and if you're not maybe you will someday...."HAPPY WIFE/HAPPY LIFE". Ever think Joannie Hargaugh Crean might just be ready to move out of the hatred and vile that is the IU environment right now? Ever think Crean knows his ass is on the line and being the egotistical POS that he is, that he wants to move before he does get fired?
Re: Now, here is evidence and proof (since you obviously are an idiot)
Me thinks you are underestimating Creans ego. He can fix this and I'm sure he has been saying just that.
Me thinks you are underestimating Creans ego. He can fix this and I'm sure he has been saying just that.
IU's coach next year is Tom Crean. No one is going to pony up the money to buy him out and the rumor that the money is in place isn't true.
Re: If you only knew... ***
Board of Trustees good enough for you Scribe? It would be embarrassing given that the students are paying for athletic support now and the BOT doesn't want to waste 10 million dollars.
Board of Trustees good enough for you Scribe? It would be embarrassing given that the students are paying for athletic support now and the BOT doesn't want to waste 10 million dollars.
Re: If you only knew... ***
What is this guys obsession with "ripped", "sculpted", "ferocious" or "grace like a swan" when it comes to mens basketball coaches? This guys seems to salivate over coaches like Tommy does over Ryne Smith:
-If you guys thought that Crean's physical fitness was intimidating, just wait until you see what shaka does to you guys.
-respect shaka and his sculpted features
-shaka smart.. you may remember him...
young, ripped
-Tommy has the grace of a swan
-someone just as fierce and lean as tommy... me and tom are fine with that (say what?)
-tom is still just as ferocious as he has ever been
-think about what the physical presence of shaka would do to your players
-if we want billy donovan, ripped billy, we get him
What is this guys obsession with "ripped", "sculpted", "ferocious" or "grace like a swan" when it comes to mens basketball coaches? This guys seems to salivate over coaches like Tommy does over Ryne Smith:
-If you guys thought that Crean's physical fitness was intimidating, just wait until you see what shaka does to you guys.
-respect shaka and his sculpted features
-shaka smart.. you may remember him...
young, ripped
-Tommy has the grace of a swan
-someone just as fierce and lean as tommy... me and tom are fine with that (say what?)
-tom is still just as ferocious as he has ever been
-think about what the physical presence of shaka would do to your players
-if we want billy donovan, ripped billy, we get him
Re: If you only knew... ***
Reasonable is just extolling the manly virtues of IU coaching candidates to see if he will get a rise out of our fan base. It is just a sad, lonely cry for attention. I suggest not feeding it, then maybe it will go away.
I hear IU is going after Adolf Rupp to replace CTC. After all, he has only been dead a few years. They've had worse stiffs on the bench. Just think about the trolls posts on this one. I can see Reasonable talking about Rupp's bone(r)s. ...and Rupp's "rigor" when it comes to discipline. How Rupp is the strong silent type.
Reasonable is just extolling the manly virtues of IU coaching candidates to see if he will get a rise out of our fan base. It is just a sad, lonely cry for attention. I suggest not feeding it, then maybe it will go away.
Crean will not be the coach next year. It's basically already been settled from what people that know are saying. They absolutely are going to throw the book at Stevens, multiple times and at all costs. Money is not an issue whatsoever. But, Brad is not necessarily a money hungry guy either. They love the state of Indiana, but the timing may not be right.
I personally think they will land him. If not, who knows. But Crean is gone. Period. Make no mistake about that.
I know how much crean's buyout is, i also know that Stevens is making silly money in the NBA right now...he might not be money hungry but i think he's making like 8-10 million a year...doubt he's going to take a 6-8 million dollar pay cut.,..even if it is IU...I know IU has deep pockets but i don't know if they are that deep...not like they have a ton of money coming in from football.
I, too, don't know all the details but I think you're off a bit.
I think Stevens' contract in Boston is like 6-yrs/22 mil. I think IU could offer 7/35 range. In any case, I think they could match what he makes at worst. And the NBA turns on coaches quickly if they don't produce. Ask slick Rick or Cal. If IU will put up with Crean for 7 years its safe to say that Stevens would have a fair amount of job security at IU compared to the NBA.
I could be wrong, as always, too.
And Crean makes 3.2 for comparison.
Not saying Stevens is coming, but they are close.
Also, the buyout will not be 12 million if Crean leaves on his own and negotiates a deal.
A la Tubby Smith
This post was edited on 3/6 3:05 PM by IndianaHoops
Not saying Stevens is coming, but they are close.
Also, the buyout will not be 12 million if Crean leaves on his own and negotiates a deal.
A la Tubby Smith
This post was edited on 3/6 3:05 PM by IndianaHoops
According to his contract, unless he negotiates a deal, he owes IU something like $ 8 Million if he leaves. Glass must have really been drunk when he negotiated this one.
mike, Crean is not going to walk away from $11 million. He has a family and if he does that, he is dumber than even I think that he is.
IU may well fire him and try to bring in Stevens or someone else. However, they are on the hook for TC's money. But I find it hard to believe that they have an extra $15 million sitting in a drawer that could not be spent on better things. They just went big on the AH redo and recently on the new practice facility. The donor pool is ont a bottomless pit.
As an aside, I love all the IU fans who alsways claimed that Creaning did not exist are now so mad that he was doing it. Funny how they seem to owe an apology to all the critics prior who were called idiots for suggesting his shortcomings.
Like I said in another thread, this is Gloria Swanson in "Sunset Boulevard" all over again.
IU may well fire him and try to bring in Stevens or someone else. However, they are on the hook for TC's money. But I find it hard to believe that they have an extra $15 million sitting in a drawer that could not be spent on better things. They just went big on the AH redo and recently on the new practice facility. The donor pool is ont a bottomless pit.
As an aside, I love all the IU fans who alsways claimed that Creaning did not exist are now so mad that he was doing it. Funny how they seem to owe an apology to all the critics prior who were called idiots for suggesting his shortcomings.
Like I said in another thread, this is Gloria Swanson in "Sunset Boulevard" all over again.
Mike, you're just trying to stir the chit with that question. Brad isn't coming, and if he ever does I'll answer it then.
A couple of things...
First, the buyout (12 Mill) is not a one time payment. IU has until 2020 to pay it out. So, IU could pay Crean roughly 2 million a year over the next 5 years if they wanted.
Second, any coaching job Crean lands will subtract from that. So, if Crean lands a job that pays him 1 million a year over the next 5 years, IU would only owe him 1 million a year over that same time frame.
This post was edited on 3/6 3:36 PM by IndianaHoops
Don't forget. The BTN contract is going to drop a bigger chunk of cheddar in everyone's lap this next go-around.
Like someone else said, it's walking away, but walking away with another job. He'll still make plenty of cash and not have to deal with his family going through all of this. Plus, imo, his ego couldn't handle getting fired. This solves all of those issues.
hey ya'll don't try using logic on this lot!
it wont work!
hehehe
tom is owed 11 million over five years minus what he gets at his next job... and if i know tom like i think i do, with his relentless fitness regimine, and his flawless dieting habits, his tenacious personality and can-do attitude, he will be landing a job that pays at least 1.5 million per year... no issue there... iu will barely be paying the buy out heheh
leaving us plenty of breathing room to bring in the likes of another young, chizzled stud with no inperfections, like shaka smart
it wont work!
hehehe
tom is owed 11 million over five years minus what he gets at his next job... and if i know tom like i think i do, with his relentless fitness regimine, and his flawless dieting habits, his tenacious personality and can-do attitude, he will be landing a job that pays at least 1.5 million per year... no issue there... iu will barely be paying the buy out heheh
leaving us plenty of breathing room to bring in the likes of another young, chizzled stud with no inperfections, like shaka smart
maybe.. heheh
who did you see after young, fierce shaka ripped your team to shreds in the ncaa tournament?
who did you see after young, fierce shaka ripped your team to shreds in the ncaa tournament?
purdue i hope you enjoyed your fairy tale run of mediocrity, shaka and his intense demeanor are about to knock you right back down to dead last... you know, where you finished last year!!
HAHAH
HAHAH
heheheh calbert cheaney's team.. hehehe
final fours, championship game...
hehehehhe
purdue have either of those?!?!
DURRRRRR... I DONT THINK SO BOSS!
final fours, championship game...
hehehehhe
purdue have either of those?!?!
DURRRRRR... I DONT THINK SO BOSS!
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