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If Swanigan doesn't go Purdue that is just utterly preposterous

you are telling me you know more than I about Cuonzo's commitment tweets. surely that makes you some sort of expert no?

why would I assume you, a purdue fan, have any idea what he tweets when he gets a commitment as head coach of Cal? are you are crazy person? a stalker? his brother?[/QUOT
 
Dude you're so lost. I never said a thing about his "tweets".
Yeah I'm a stalker. Zo was a very popular player during a pretty significant period at Purdue. Zo is the perfect example of what we consider to be a Boiler. I can assure you that almost all of this board and many of the IU fan lurkers here, know more about Zo then you seem to judging by your posts. I would be willing to bet many here have been following Zo since around or before the time you were born.
 
Dude you're so lost. I never said a thing about his "tweets".
Yeah I'm a stalker. Zo was a very popular player during a pretty significant period at Purdue. Zo is the perfect example of what we consider to be a Boiler. I can assure you that almost all of this board and many of the IU fan lurkers here, know more about Zo then you seem to judging by your posts. I would be willing to bet many here have been following Zo since around or before the time you were born.

What did I say that indicated that I felt I knew "Zo" on a personal level more than anyone here or knew anything more than the type of things he tweets when he has a commitment as head coach of my alma mater? Please do share these mysterious posts by me that I have not seen that indicate I feel I have some deep understanding of "Zo's" heart and soul.
 
This was his recruiting pitch. could be an indication he just got a commitment from someone. he tweets things like this when he gets commitments.

now pray tell what you found in this statement so offensive and indicated anything other than the fact I am aware types of things he tweets when he gets a commitment as head coach of the university of california? I anxiously await your answer.
 
What did I say that indicated that I felt I knew "Zo" on a personal level more than anyone here or knew anything more than the type of things he tweets when he has a commitment as head coach of my alma mater? Please do share these mysterious posts by me that I have not seen that indicate I feel I have some deep understanding of "Zo's" heart and soul.
Once again. I think it's cute how you act like an expert on Zo as a Cal fan following tweets compared to the audience your taking to. That was my original point. I can't help it if your logic of trying to out type me made you believe I was claiming to have access to something as out of reach as Zo's Twitter feed and that I was some sort of expert on the matter.
 
Once again. I think it's cute how you act like an expert on Zo as a Cal fan following tweets compared to the audience your taking to. That was my original point. I can't help it if your logic of trying to out type me made you believe I was claiming to have access to something as out of reach as Zo's Twitter feed and that I was some sort of expert on the matter.

Once again. Please direct me to the post where I indicated I was an expert on "Zo."
 
Once again. Please direct me to the post where I indicated I was an expert on "Zo."
When you came here trying to tell Purdue fans what Zo means by his tweets. It's up there, go read it. You came here to try and rub landing Biggie in our faces, posters gave you reasons as to why your logic isn't sound, then you start all of the, "his tweets mean this", and "are you some sort of stalker for still follow Zo" logic.
Why don't you impress us with some basketball knowledge? I am happy with what Purdue returns without Caleb. I als think with our team as is and Cal even if they land Biggie, that Purude still has a better season and would win head to head. Now you tell me what adding your stud class does for your team and why I am wrong.
 
When you came here trying to tell Purdue fans what Zo means by his tweets. It's up there, go read it. You came here to try and rub landing Biggie in our faces, posters gave you reasons as to why your logic isn't sound, then you start all of the, "his tweets mean this", and "are you some sort of stalker for still follow Zo" logic.
Why don't you impress us with some basketball knowledge? I am happy with what Purdue returns without Caleb. I als think with our team as is and Cal even if they land Biggie, that Purude still has a better season and would win head to head. Now you tell me what adding your stud class does for your team and why I am wrong.

Wow. That's some insane level logic. How in the world was I "rubbing" anything in? I'm sharing information. Take it or leave it. Get help. This isn't really that important. Just please don't kick your dog.
 
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gotcha. I was originally responding to the original poster who seemed to think tv ratings / exposure should factor into his decision.

Tell that to the many players that never get a lottery pick. If you don't get that u ain't likely to get jack squat in NBA. 25 or so McDonalds AA's - 29 1st rnd picks. 14 big money. Competing worldwide for those slots, and NBA scouts definitely want exposure. If you want to join a gang and be one of the gang on a team Cali and blend in, disappear, be friends. Put that in front of whatchya could have been as a local hero. Lebron James played that card in H.S. Granted, a phenom, the home crowd goes a long way in publicizing yoe status. It creates a huge following. Glenn Robinson played that card too. Or go to Cal and be someplace that ain't gonna matta in the long-run as your NBA prospects dwindle day by day. I mean why want to be a king in your castle? Why want that? Why not go to the furthest spot in any direction on the continent to play for an unproven school for an unproven coach, and to play in the pitiful pac. Sounds like a good move to me.
 
Wow. That's some insane level logic. Get help.
That's what I thought. You have nothing. Good luck this year. You've got a good coach. maybe if you grow up and pay attention you may learn something. Sadly going to other boards trolling while claiming to not be a troll is gonna hold you back a bit.
If Zo gets Biggie, he will let you know without having to use cryptic tweets that only you understand. Until then, you may want to refrain from bragging about it here. We will be fine with or without him.
 
Tell that to the many players that never get a lottery pick. If you don't get that u ain't likely to get jack squat in NBA. 25 or so McDonalds AA's - 29 1st rnd picks. 14 big money. Competing worldwide for those slots, and NBA scouts definitely want exposure. If you want to join a gang and be one of the gang on a team Cali and blend in, disappear, be friends. Put that in front of whatchya could have been as a local hero. Lebron James played that card in H.S. Granted, a phenom, the home crowd goes a long way in publicizing yoe status. It creates a huge following. Glenn Robinson played that card too. Or go to Cal and be someplace that ain't gonna matta in the long-run as your NBA prospects dwindle day by day. I mean why want to be a king in your castle? Why want that? Why not go to the furthest spot in any direction on the continent to play for an unproven school for an unproven coach, and to play in the pitiful pac. Sounds like a good move to me.

if he's not going to the NBA, I'd certainly suggest going to Cal over Purdue.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandr...ges/rankings/national-universities/top-public

and btw cal and purdue have the same number of current nba players.
 
That's what I thought. You have nothing. Good luck this year. You've got a good coach. maybe if you grow up and pay attention you may learn something. Sadly going to other boards trolling while claiming to not be a troll is gonna hold you back a bit.
If Zo gets Biggie, he will let you know without having to use cryptic tweets that only you understand. Until then, you may want to refrain from bragging about it here. We will be fine with or without him.

yeah he's never used "cryptic tweets" to indicate he has a commitment. what was I thinking?







Oh shit. you don't know what you are talking about.
 
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if he's not going to the NBA, I'd certainly suggest going to Cal over Purdue.

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandr...ges/rankings/national-universities/top-public

and btw cal and purdue have the same number of current nba players.

Those rankings are a joke. Tell that to UNC who handed out fake degrees. Its the same books its the same stuff. You ask anyone in the real world, they'll take a Purdue guy over Cal. California is one of the worst run states ever. I'd go on vacation, but never to live. Besides you're splitting hairs, nobody goes around saying Purdue sucks academically and people throw those liberal rankings in the face all the time. Horrible example. In a job interview is he gonna say well Cali is in the largest state and had more applicants, we're cool? With the exception of a few colleges, If you can't get into the Stanfords, the USC's you go Cal. Any1 can take a spreadsheet and switch a few numbers here or there differenced by decimals basically and rank them in order. The real question is what do you know. But kids don't care about that. And those NBA stats don't add up to squat. What matters is here and now. Which school is gonna do u the best chance now. That's clearly Purdue. Hands down right now its the situation too. Its primed for him. I'd be shocked if he takes Cal, that's a stretch to me. And a shocking one at that. The real matter, value, is in your following. The local media from where your home state is. They're gonna have your back if you perform. They're the real asset. Why bet your chips on a fad? Purdue is the one place he can be featured as a franchise guy like Drew B. You think Drew duplicates that at another school? Maybe, maybe not. But the local media and following propelled him to the national stage let there be no doubts there.
 
Those rankings are a joke. Tell that to UNC who handed out fake degrees. Its the same books its the same stuff. You ask anyone in the real world, they'll take a Purdue guy over Cal.

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Purdue Class of 2019: Average GPA 3.57 Sat 1269
Cal Class of 2019: Average GPA 4.18 Sat 1394
 
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Purdue Class of 2019: Average GPA 3.57 Sat 1269
Cal Class of 2019: Average GPA 4.18 Sat 1394

Splitting hairs dude. UNC beats that. U think it mattered when they faked their test scores and handed out fake classes, fake degree? Any school can fake those stats by selectively excluding applications from the criteria. Its all hearsay, but who knows, maybe schools are blatantly honest on those questionnaires they receive, after all, a good ranking surly doesn't bring them some bacon. Those stats are pseudo quackery. UNC handed out fake degrees a little harder to fake that than true stats. Besides, you think that matters basketball wise. Who's gonna send him to the promise land. Answer: Purdue. Cal is just gonna chew him up and spit him out. At the end of the day he gets to participate in a true rivalry in state vs. IU, things people remember their entire lives at Purdue, he'll get that here not at Cal. He'd be the first 5 star recruit Purdue got since Glenn Robinson, every single time people see him on TV ESPN to CBS will be making comparisons, think of the advertising that does to scouts if he can produce at Purdue being compared to Robinson with every basket he makes. Think of the glory he'll have every time Purdue plays IU. He'd be a hero. Not to mention, if he had a really good year at Purdue NBA scouts would be salivating. And after all he'd be allowed to put an American flag up in his window.
 
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You are embarrassing us. Cal is a great school. I agree US News is a poor ranking service, but let's not act like assess, here and start talking about how they favor Cal because they are "liberal." That assertion makes little sense.
 
You are embarrassing us. Cal is a great school. I agree US News is a poor ranking service, but let's not act like assess, here and start talking about how they favor Cal because they are "liberal." That assertion makes little sense.

That wasn't the assertion at all. The assertion was that it is pseudo quackery and liberal as well.
 
I've done pretty well with my Purdue engineering degree. Anyone who trolls posting USnews rankings clearly doesn't know what they're talking about. Cal is a phenomenal school, no denying that. But rankings in terms of what you desire to study, and the reputation that program has is far more important.

Moreover, why is discussion of academic even an issue here? Most of the things these athletes major in anyway isn't going to get them a real job unless they go to graduate school. And where you got your undergrad degree really only matters if you're going to look for employment right after. If you're going to major in basket weaving 101, it doesn't matter where you get your degree.

I'm a proud Purdue alum, and some dude trolling about how Cal is ranked higher isn't going to change the value of my degree.
 
I've done pretty well with my Purdue engineering degree. Anyone who trolls posting USnews rankings clearly doesn't know what they're talking about. Cal is a phenomenal school, no denying that. But rankings in terms of what you desire to study, and the reputation that program has is far more important.

Moreover, why is discussion of academic even an issue here? Most of the things these athletes major in anyway isn't going to get them a real job unless they go to graduate school. And where you got your undergrad degree really only matters if you're going to look for employment right after. If you're going to major in basket weaving 101, it doesn't matter where you get your degree.

I'm a proud Purdue alum, and some dude trolling about how Cal is ranked higher isn't going to change the value of my degree.
Purdue is among the top Engineering schools in the world and trying to use gpa stats as part of an argument is just proof that person has no leg to stand on.
 
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Purdue Class of 2019: Average GPA 3.57 Sat 1269
Cal Class of 2019: Average GPA 4.18 Sat 1394

I don't want to get sucked into this petty argument more than this one post and I have no interest in disparaging Cal, but these stats have nothing to do with the quality of education that Swanigan would receive.

What high school GPA and SAT measure are selectivity, rather than quality of education. Purdue has a state mandate to be inclusive of the states population, so Purdue will never compete with the most selective public institutions in selectivity metrics. Cal is in a huge state with limited access to its top tier of public institutions, so many capable applicants never get the opportunity to attend. While that certainly makes Cal's job easier, it does not make the quality of education that Cal delivers better.

For the most part, Purdue is a very rigorous school. Purdue graduates that I worked with have earned their degrees and are well prepared to succeed in the real world. Many don't make it in Purdue's more rigorous degree programs. I think it's safe to say that the opportunity exists for Swanigan to get a great education at either institution.
 
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Purdue Class of 2019: Average GPA 3.57 Sat 1269
Cal Class of 2019: Average GPA 4.18 Sat 1394

Dude, seriously??

PUR and CAL are both great schools with long histories of great academics.

I mean, you can bag-on and degrade about 80% of P5 schools vs Cal academics, but Purdue is not one of those in that 80%. We are known the world over for being one of the greatest ENG, TECH, AG, etc etc etc etc schools in the history of mankind! Purdue aka "The cradle of Astronauts", for example. Academically, we're both great.


This thread got real dumb real quick.
 
The evolution of this thread has taken more turns down gravel roads than we've seen in a long time. I have to give credit that the pissing matches have been of urinal proportions.
 
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Dude, seriously??

PUR and CAL are both great schools with long histories of great academics.

I mean, you can bag-on and degrade about 80% of P5 schools vs Cal academics, but Purdue is not one of those in that 80%. We are known the world over for being one of the greatest ENG, TECH, AG, etc etc etc etc schools in the history of mankind! Purdue aka "The cradle of Astronauts", for example. Academically, we're both great.


This thread got real dumb real quick.

Krispy Kreme makes a nice donut, better than 80% of the donut shops on earth, but no one seriously considers it one of the best donuts on the planet except people with some emotional interest in elevating Krispy Kreme to that level.
 

Ok. I can't stop at one post because the link is too interesting.

If you click on the table on the second tab, you'll see that of the top 10 institutions, Purdue has by far the lowest six year graduation rate. While that historically counts against Purdue in U.S. News' metrics, it really speak to both opportunity and the uncompromising rigor that characterizes Purdue's engineering program. A Purdue Engineering degree is respected because it is earned. The same applies to many other Purdue degrees.
 
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Huh??

Aren't you kind of proving our point?? #5 public ENG university in the country (according to your link). Ahead of Princeton, Cornell, Texas, etc etc etc (I actually thought TX was ahead of us). What are there, 15,000 schools that offer ENG, and we're Top 5??

You're kindof coming off as a little ridiculous, insecure, and frantic here. We're both great.

Talking academic smack is something WE do as well. THAT'S OUR MOVE!!! Not sure why you feel the need to pull this card, but whatev.
 
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Yeah, sorry to you too! You do realize that the US News methodology has been questioned by some pretty solid sources. They tend to focus way more on student to faculty ratio that may or may not be indicative of the quality of education. Since Purdue is one of, if not the biggest, Engineering schools they probably rank poorly in that one important category. The WSJ did a report on where recruiters focus their energy and Cal Berkeley wasn't even close to Purdue.
 
Or one of Cal's campus janitors.

If we were talking campus janitors at MIT, it'd be a different story, though.
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Swanigan is #19 according to Rivals. UK has Skal who's like #10 or something who is a center. I'm not sure who they have at PF next year, but I would guarantee Swanigan would get major minutes. Look at how many bigs they had last year and all of them saw good minutes. Was it 35 a game? No. But they also had 3 or 4 bigs. If they have 2 next year, Swanigan will get lots of minutes and a chance to play with some really talented kids.

Also, Cal does a very good job of developing the players he has. I just don't think it's going to be as easy to see a dramatic difference in just one year. To insinuate that he doesn't develop them much is a little crazy, if you ask me. It's not going to look like JJ here at Purdue or Oladipo at IU because they were in college for a long time.

To say UK isn't good place for him is nonsense. He'll be showcased all year with UK who plays in a weak conference, a ton of their games are on national television and they will almost certainly make the NCAA Tournament. UK would be just as good of a place for him as any other.
Yeah, Derek Willis' years with cal sure have been transformational. Obviously there is draw to UK but he doesn't really develop much talent outside of his top 25/30 recruits.
 
Yeah, Derek Willis' years with cal sure have been transformational. Obviously there is draw to UK but he doesn't really develop much talent outside of his top 25/30 recruits.
He's on the all academic SEC team. So that's probably why he's being kept around. Helps the GPA plus he will most likely graduate on time which wouldn't hurt Cal in the long run. There are parents of blue chip kids out there who realize that a degree will yield benefits when they have spent any NBA money they earn. Especially in light of the fact that most pro athletes are broke within 3 years of leaving the game.
 
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Calipari doesn't get players drafted, players who play well and have great measurables get themselves drafted.

Saying "Calipari gets players drafted" is such a dumb, casualfan phrase.

Calipari gets top 20 recruits who are one and dones, regardless of where they go.
 
By my math last year Purdue had 20 of its 31 regular season games on the big 10 network. So 11 on national networks. (from the purdue website)

Cal had 19 of it's 31 games on the pac-12 network. So 12 on national networks.

I'm not seeing a whole lot of difference exposure wise.

When's the last time you actually watched a west coast basketball game?

Now think about how often you watched a B1G or ACC game, which do you think you watched more often?

I'm assuming the majority of the country watches B1G and ACC games more often than Pac12 because of not only time zone, but the prestige difference in basketball.
 
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