I will be shocked if Fleck isn't our next coach.......

[lbodel]

Getting a "name coach" from a powerhouse school doesn't work well for Purdue. Akers was used to getting the top talent in the state, and his game planning/recruiting did not work well at Purdue. He didn't get the kids who were good enough to hide his weaknesses. Someone like Fleck might be a better choice because he is very used to working with less developed kids. He develops them, and puts them in winnable situations, which is an important skill. That is the type of coach Purdue needs. Not Les Miles.

I've said it a bunch already, but this board seems laser focused on hiring a current head coach. Maryland made a pretty good hire, at least imo so far, and he was a defensive coordinator.

I think a school like Purdue is in a similar boat to Maryland. Maryland also fired Edsall mid-season and spent some time chasing some bigger names, realizing it wasn't going to happen and then plucked a pretty solid coordinator who has already made some big improvements at Maryland that fans are excited about.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

I've said it a bunch already, but this board seems laser focused on hiring a current head coach. Maryland made a pretty good hire, at least imo so far, and he was a defensive coordinator.

I think a school like Purdue is in a similar boat to Maryland. Maryland also fired Edsall mid-season and spent some time chasing some bigger names, realizing it wasn't going to happen and then plucked a pretty solid coordinator who has already made some big improvements at Maryland that fans are excited about.

I think Jeff Scott is the offensive version of Durkin. Both are ace recruiters at big time programs.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

PJ ain't picking UK over PU, if that's your point. No way.

I meant it to mean how Butch Jones came close to taking the job and then picking Tennessee. Fleck may in fact be 1A on MBob's board of coaches...but he may be interested in a bigger program if they come calling.

 

[SunnyFL24]

The AD said that this time, money won't be an issue. Count on getting a real name coach, not some MAC guy like Fleck

...........and you must trust politicians too....." Money no object"......money will be a big issue!

 

[PaBoiler78]

I've said it a bunch already, but this board seems laser focused on hiring a current head coach. Maryland made a pretty good hire, at least imo so far, and he was a defensive coordinator.

I think a school like Purdue is in a similar boat to Maryland. Maryland also fired Edsall mid-season and spent some time chasing some bigger names, realizing it wasn't going to happen and then plucked a pretty solid coordinator who has already made some big improvements at Maryland that fans are excited about.

one coach I'd like to see be considered is Mike Norvell, currently in his first year at Memphis. Knows offense and is young.

 

[SunnyFL24]

Ok, these are two very different things:

1. Les Miles had proven recruiting RESULTS.

2. Darrell Hazell had an athletic director touting recruiting skills because he lived in a specific state.

There's a difference.

Get off the Miles bandwagon..........Pur is not going to pay 4-5mil for a coach! PERIOD!

 

[Cleanface]

I meant it to mean how Butch Jones came close to taking the job and then picking Tennessee. Fleck may in fact be 1A on MBob's board of coaches...but he may be interested in a bigger program if they come calling.

Ok, yeah. Agree with that 100%.

I think that's the biggest worry of those that want PJF; someone bigger and better will come along.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

I've heard Olsen doesn't have an interest in the collegiate game specifically because of the time that's needed to spend on recruiting. Given, his children were younger then, but if he can still find NFL jobs, I expect he'll stay there.

Let's be honest, though. This isn't about how much Bobinski is willing to pay. This is about what coach is willing to put their career on the line to come coach here. It's the Turner Gill effect. You put together a good season at a lower tier school as an up and comer, find yourself in a historically terrible program, fail miserably, and find yourself back in the doldrums of coaching never to be heard from again. If a guy like Fleck gets better offers, he's gone. If an established guy like Miles ends up at Purdue, it's because no one else wanted him. Somewhere in the middle is a coach not many people are looking at or is considered to be a high risk, but has the pedigree to build something great. That is who Purdue will be looking at.

Any guess as to how much Olsen is making from the jags? If we can offer him $1 million a year pay increase, that might change his mind about college.

Plus job security: looks like the jags coaching staff might all get cleaned out at the end of the season.

I thought we should've hired Olson four years ago instead of Hazell, but apparently there was too much bad blood between he and the Morgue.

 

[RDUBoiler]

one coach I'd like to see be considered is Mike Norvell, currently in his first year at Memphis. Knows offense and is young.

I've been thinking about Norvell. Since he is in his first year as a head coach (as far as I can tell), I wonder if that will scare people off.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Ok, yeah. Agree with that 100%.

I think that's the biggest worry of those that want PJF; someone bigger and better will come along.

If PJF is MBob's guy, then he needs to pull out all the stops: send a Gulfstream to fly him in, and get as many former Purdue players on hand as possible for his visit: Woodson, Colvin, Orton, Griese, Brees if you can fly him in on a Tuesday, etc, etc. Wow him. No more of this Eeyor Morgue stuff.

He's a salesman, and no one loves a great sales pitch more than another salesman.

 

[regionwarrior]

Any guess as to how much Olsen is making from the jags? If we can offer him $1 million a year pay increase, that might change his mind about college.

Plus job security: looks like the jags coaching staff might all get cleaned out at the end of the season.

I thought we should've hired Olson four years ago instead of Hazell, but apparently there was too much bad blood between he and the Morgue.

If I had to venture a guess, I would say Olson is in the $800-$900K range? I base that off of McDaniel in New England is one of the highest paid assistants in the league at $1.5 million. I think $1.75 - $2 mil would net a Greg Olson.

 

[leodisflowers]

Not trying to talk crap as I really like Purdue (Visit there a bunch for recruiting for my company) but why are big name coaches even being thrown around? I think you need to look for an up and coming person and hope to get lucky vs. a big name. I know you are revamping facilities, but Purdue hasn't been a football power since I've been alive (1984).

 

[BoilerBulldog]

Not trying to talk crap as I really like Purdue (Visit there a bunch for recruiting for my company) but why are big name coaches even being thrown around? I think you need to look for an up and coming person and hope to get lucky vs. a big name. I know you are revamping facilities, but Purdue hasn't been a football power since I've been alive (1984).

So you were in a coma between 2001-2004? We are only throwing them around because the press is throwing them around. There have already been reports that Miles and Pelini are both interested in talking to Purdue. No idea if legit, but that seems to give us the green light to speculate on a message board, no?

 

[boiledmeconium]

"The AD said that this time, money won't be an issue"

Don't be stupid...of course it's an issue. If money " wasn't an issue"..why not offer Saban or Meyer $10 million a year??? Of course money is an issue...money is ALWAYS an issue...we'll pay $2.5-$3.5 per year...tops..that's it.
We'll get a coach we can afford....we may want a Corvette...but we'll settle for a Ford Focus.

Not a Ford focus. An F-150. Enough horses to get the job done.

 

[pboiler18]

Kirby going to survive 2 years?

Kirby will get 3....but won't survive them at this rate. I think his recruiting will be a plus....but a small plus. It's not like Richt couldn't recruit....

Jim Cheaney is really sinking his ship there. Some really tough play calls and scheming thus far in the year. I definitely think they will get better....but bad discipline cost UGA the UT game and bad scheming cost them the Vandy game.

I just don't think Kirby Smart is HC material. Richt would have this team 5-1 and in the drivers seat in the east with no problem, IMO.

 

[PU52Chevy]

Whoever it is better keep Parker.....our kids love him and so do the recruits coming in.

Boiler Up!

 

[Summy1]

Two good reason to pick Purdue. They are at rock bottom and if a coach comes in and wins games they will become a king. Imagine finally going to a bowl game again.
They are building new facilities which shows they are committed to football. Hopefully this with the help of some wins will put you in better situation to get recruits.

 

[lbodel]

Get off the Miles bandwagon..........Pur is not going to pay 4-5mil for a coach! PERIOD!

I never said I was on it. I was simply pointing out that comparing Les Miles and Darrell Hazell is a joke.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Whoever it is better keep Parker.....our kids love him and so do the recruits coming in.

Boiler Up!

I'm not real worried about our 13th ranked in the B1G recruiting class. we just need to get the best coaching staff we can.

 

[rezzerfly]

I'm not real worried about our 13th ranked in the B1G recruiting class. we just need to get the best coaching staff we can.

There's a couple of the kids who are committed I wouldn't mind keeping.

 

[BoilerBulldog]

There's a couple of the kids who are committed I wouldn't mind keeping.

Agreed. We can't afford a lost class.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

There's a couple of the kids who are committed I wouldn't mind keeping.

Sure, but no one worth compromising our coaching staff for. If the new coach wants to keep Parker, great. If not, then I won't be worried about losing a few recruits over him.

 

[Harrell]

...............for what it's worth he is 2-0 in the "BIG" this year! Coaching athletes that MSU and MICH discard in the state!(seen them play three times this year, do look impressive) Would I rather see a Miles or a Sumlin, of course! But we are who we are and won't put up the big dollars.

Matt Rhule

 

[BoilerInChiTown]

I'm not real worried about our 13th ranked in the B1G recruiting class. we just need to get the best coaching staff we can.

Better recruits will come once we have the right coach(s).

 

[TwinDegrees2]

PJ ain't picking UK over PU, if that's your point. No way.

Lexington or West Laffy???? SEC or B10?????

 

[pboiler18]

Lexington or West Laffy???? SEC or B10?????

Lexington has lots of issues. Mainly, they had a pretty good coach who recruited pretty well and they still couldn't win.

At least in our situation we can go...hey he was a bad coach and a bad recruiter. Stoops doesn't have a bad reputation.

PJ Fleck won't wanna play 2nd fiddle to basketball. When football is good at Purdue it's embraced just as much as basketball or more, if the BBall team happens to be shitty at the time.

Basketball will always be king there.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Lexington has lots of issues. Mainly, they had a pretty good coach who recruited pretty well and they still couldn't win.

At least in our situation we can go...hey he was a bad coach and a bad recruiter. Stoops doesn't have a bad reputation.

PJ Fleck won't wanna play 2nd fiddle to basketball. When football is good at Purdue it's embraced just as much as basketball or more, if the BBall team happens to be shitty at the time.

Basketball will always be king there.

PJ is 35. That means when he was in HS and college, we were at the peak of the Tiller regime, which he most certainly would have noticed as a Midwestern kid. He knows it's possible.

 

[BoilerBloodline]

I'd take my chance with Miles before I'd spend much money on Fleck. Miles has something to prove, he has kids in the pipeline from his days at LSU that he's been recruiting for a few years, and he doesn't need the money......And Purdue gains instant cred with potential recruits.. My guess, he's going to be a lot cheaper and better prepared than another MAC guy. Miles worst record at LSU was 8-5 which happened in 2014 and 2008. His overall record was 62-28 and the year before he was fired he was 9-3. He took LSU to 11 straight bowls, and two BCS games. Personally, I'd rather have him than I would Fleck.

No way in hell. Les Miles at Purdue is just asking for a repeat of Fred Akers. PJ Fleck is above and beyond any other known possibilities. To win at Purdue you MUST recruit well then have those recruits in the right positions come early September. Fleck easily out-recruited most of the nation when you look at the number & level of players he sold on WESTERN MICHIGAN. You put fleck as head coach on ANY P5 team and he's going to turn some heads.
Purdue Football & Les Miles are as compatible as a strawberry shake blended with turnips. Letting Burke do absolutely nothing for football cost us an opportunity with Sumlin. I highly doubt Fleck will be able to sneeze without Bobinski knowing it over the next couple months. Any other choice will be the wrong one.