I find the vitriol on Walters a little odd
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Why? I don’t understand the Marve vitriol. Never heard a bad thing about him from his time n WL
Ironically, Akers was ahead of his time with a run&shoot spread offense while Colletto’s run-first offense would probably do very well today behind those big lines of his…
I personally attended that $hit-show in College Park.
I never thought I'd ever be embarrassed to be a Purdue fan until that day.... zero pride, zero emotion from Haze and the entire team.
Is there any argument that Walters isn’t pretty much Jim Coletto part 2? Not hazell but not good either
Colletto was a pile of meh as a coach, but the singular brilliance of Mike Alstott ( btw the only REAL "A-Train" ) made those teams so fun to watch.
I saw the A-Train single-handedly beat the crap out of the entire state of West Virginia in Morgantown. What an absolute blast of a road trip!
The difference is Colletto was an established coach and Walters is just starting. There's quite a difference between having bad seasons in your first job and after a long time of doing it.
Where did Coletto become most known as a coach before here? What was his claim to fame
It’s not his first season as a coach.
It’s always been his responsibility to get his unit schemed, fundamentally sound and lined up properly. Pretty alarming that he can’t handle those basics here.
He was a longtime o-line coach at Ohio State... I think he played there as well...
I agree with cover 3. He’s trying to run a defense you run when you have athletes. We haven’t had those kinda athletes here up and down the defense since the days of Schweigert, Phillips, koutivides etc.
He should have figured out a way to start in a four man front and then work his defense in.
Or, his focus wasn't to maximize wins right away but to install a system he likes and knows and then recruit players to fill it.
His issue of course is that he hasn't, this far, been able to recruit or transfer in players at linebacker particularly and somewhat Dline to make it all work. The biggest problem with the defense is mid level. We don't have speed at linebacker. So teams don't do amazing running right at us, but they do gangbusters on the edge. They also do pretty well in midrange pass plays.
A couple of quick linebackers would improve the defense to fairly good.
The real issue with this team remains the offense.
We make a bowl game last season with the same defense and a good offense. We are possibly 2-2 right now with the same defense and a better offense.
Everyone focused on the defense because they don't like Walters and defense is his thing, but the issues have been offense. Score a few touchdowns last week, and you have a defense that goes into the fourth quarter less tired and up two scores or more. Maybe that defense doesn't collapse?
The defense was worse than the offense last year.
Neither was a good unit overall. We as armchair coaches have diagnosed this defense is bad vs the outside run. How easy do you think it is for opposing coaches who get paid to scheme all week to beat it?
I’m not sold this secondary is all that bad. Issue is we commit 5-6 to pass rush or “run blitz” totally lack containment and then rely on the 4-5 DBs to get off a block, take good angles and get a guy down 10-30 yards down the field.
What about that sounds like a good defense? It disastrous in one of the few leagues where teams still run the ball heavily and doubly disastrous when your one mid level OOC opponent can’t throw the ball but can run speed option at you all game.
A good coach would take the elements of the scheme they want to play but adjust to the talent they have. They would call coverages to put what they do have in a position to be successful. They would sure as hell adjust in game too when calling the same coverages and getting beat on the same concepts and even plays is happening over and over. Not here though!
Well, that is if they want to keep their job. I’m not so convinced this coach cares about that at this point. The fans are over it and he seems over it too.
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Good coaches adapt to the players they have.
I agree that the defense isn't currently the bigger issue. But it's not like it's great. 38 points to Oregon State isn't good. And yes, part of that is keeping the offense on the field.
Walters' biggest issue is not being experienced enough to know what he doesn't know. And being dumb enough not to bring an experienced assistant coach to his staff, especially on offense. I partially blame Bobinski for that idiocy.
That’s the the, it was always going to be recruiting high schoolers to the defense. People think that because the portal exists, Purdue gets the kind of players you have to buy. Purdue paid 400-500 to keep Kydran Jenkins. Top tier linebackers and defensive backs cost at least that much.
So by making the choice you suggest, he was betting on making this defense work with Grant, Beasley, Bradford etc
The max wins this team was going to get was one or two more lol
Y'all acting like Brohm would have taken this team to the playoffs lol
If I know that I'm not getting money for immediate help, and what I have isn't well great, I can either try and run a system I don't know or plan on using long term to squeeze out one or two more wins in the short term or I can look longer term, accept I'm going to lose some games early and recruit my way there.
Now if that doesn't work, you're screwed around year three, but, again, the real problem right now is the offense.
You approach this job one of two ways. I gotta win as many games as possible immediately no matter what, or I have to build something knowing I'm probably not going to be immediately successful.
The latter is smarter but it's an impatient world so it's probably not a viable strategy anymore. He has one more season max to do something, but his downfall ain't going to be the defense, it's going to be the offense.
I agree. The thing is, that’s why he screwed himself by trusting a guy with a 2 page offensive playbook.
at first I was like Harrell is a good hire, but after last year you could see he wasn't the guy. I would have went after a guy like Morehead, veteran coach w/ a good O backround
Obviously choosing Harrell was a bad choice. Then again it seems unreasonable to expect a first time ever head coach with limited coaching experience period to nail personnel decisions out of the gate.
That's why Purdue shouldn't have a first time head coach without having an advisor who's been there and done that...
That part's on Bobinski...
Some on on3 were saying even if the hire was made, it never should have been made without some restrictions on the staff (maybe a couple old former head coaches and definitely someone who has called plays before).
The choice was made and then he made the choice to get rid of him. So he learned.
His next choice will determine whether he has a shot of staying here or not. If he finds a great coordinator matched with an improving defense and a lighter schedule then he will have a chance.
If he muffs it again he will be fired before the end of next season.
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