Houston vs. Purdue: MASTER DISCUSSION THREAD

[tjreese]

Cox got eaten by a screen so Braden jumped out to cover Cryer. Probably Loyer needed to rotate down after the inbounds but it happened really fast.

I’m sure Houston saw that other teams also scored the same way earlier in the year against Purdue. I would’ve not wanted to run that for less shot. I understand they were worried about the perimeter. I would’ve liked to shut the court off garding the trigger man. Nothing going underneath towards the basket, like usual play for other teams and everybody, knowing where the balls going

I think it was Iowa years ago, who had to play where the trigger man was left to go double and a trigger man stepped in, and I just threw a high lobby, and the guy tipped it back to the trigger man. He just stepped in for a basket trigger man’s closest to the basket easiest to score if you don’t cover it Since I seen it a few times I think it’s a mistake on defense rather than a great play on offense.

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

One seed spot from complete chalk in the Regional Finals......never seen that before.

 

[TwinDegrees2]

Props to a good Boiler team. Loyer, Smith, Cox, TKR, and Heide and Myles deserve praise for their efforts. Also, Berg who didn't play long, but altered at least two shots while he was in.

If Paint can land two players out of the portal, a big that can rebound and a quick point guard who can play defense and shoot. Smith needs some rest during the game.

And CMP did a very solid coaching job this year

 

[seminolesboilers]

Good comeback from 10 down...but then to lose that the way Purdue did...hurts. That was a push off by UH on the previous play...and should have been called an offensive foul on the Cougars. Let's have an all SEC FF4!

 

[decontain]

Legend has it that Braden Smith is still careening across the hardwood in Indianapolis, to this day, after that egregious game deciding missed offensive foul call....

 

[TwinDegrees2]

Good comeback from 10 down...but then to lose that the way Purdue did...hurts. That was a push off by UH on the previous play...and should have been called an offensive foul on the Cougars. Let's have an all SEC FF4!

I'm pulling for UT and MSU.

 

[tjreese]

Good comeback from 10 down...but then to lose that the way Purdue did...hurts. That was a push off by UH on the previous play...and should have been called an offensive foul on the Cougars. Let's have an all SEC FF4!

Feel for the kids. Kim probably has never heard me like I was on them swallowing the whistle and especially the D on the out of bounds. Mo was with Purdue and they might have won in regulation but most likely in overtime

 

[Boiler2807]

You do realize that for most the game Braden had two people on him? The number one goal for Houston was to make it hard on Braden

Oh they did. He had some good passes. He absolutely can’t have entire halves with just one shot. It’s not gonna work no matter how you slice it. It wasn’t just this game. There have been multiple games. He gotta find a way

 

[TwinDegrees2]

Oh they did. He had some good passes. He absolutely can’t have entire halves with just one shot. It’s not gonna work no matter how you slice it. It wasn’t just this game. There have been multiple games. He gotta find a way

What Braden needs to free him up are a 4 & 5 who can score and rebound.

 

[jdbrees922]

Cox got eaten by a screen so Braden jumped out to cover Cryer. Probably Loyer needed to rotate down after the inbounds but it happened really fast.

Loyer was on the bench

 

[BoilerMaker P]

Weird that the most physical team in the tournament finishes with only 5 fouls.

 

[clankhan]

As I mentioned before, Painter has a tendency, just like the UVA E8 game, to avoid making micro adjustments, such as substituting a shorter guard for someone with more length and better defense (ie Eifert at the end of regulation during the 2019 E8).

This isn’t the first time we’ve seen this. We were so close—one good play or one less missed call could have been the difference between winning and losing

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

Was Loyer in on that play? I thought it was TKR, Smith, Colvin, Cox, and Heide.......candidly, though I'm not thinking straight due to Boilerepherine level overload.

Maybe it was Heide, but someone ball side needed to shade the inbounds after Braden broke out but he might have had his back turned.

 

[Boiler2807]

What Braden needs to free him up are a 4 & 5 who can score and rebound.

100% that’s where we are one transfer away from being scary good comes into play

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

Maybe it was Heide, but someone ball side needed to shade the inbounds after Braden broke out but he might have had his back turned.

Oh I hear you, Top......think it all broke down when TKR's man got the ball in the lane......of course, no guarantee that overtime would have made a difference, but that game probably deserved five more minutes. Didn't think the Boilers had a real good chance when they got down double digits, but they gutted it out and almost pulled it out.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

100% that’s where we are one transfer away from being scary good comes into play

Probably a broken leg away from a 2 seed. Unlucky

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Maybe it was Heide, but someone ball side needed to shade the inbounds after Braden broke out but he might have had his back turned.

Smith has done that all year and I hate it every time he does it. He can easily take away that pass that would have gone to cryer by being more at a45 degree angle and not allowing the inbounder to pass it to the weak side.

I get why he did it cuz of cryer, but much rather would have had cryer shoot it (he was struggling) than a 1 footer. It wa sa gamble and it didn’t work out. Much like him trying to sell the push off by uzan. Which was a foul but it was interesting the refs finally swallowed their whistle all of a sudden in that situation.

That’s not why we lost tho. Had opportunities to hit open shots and just missed em. Hell of an effort. Best game they’ve played all year.

 

[jdbrees922]

Weird that the most physical team in the tournament finishes with only 5 fouls.

Ya that’s a joke , noticed the postgame shows wouldn’t mention anything about the missed calls and the assaults that happened

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

Some of these press conference questions.......man, I tell ya. "How much does this loss sting?" Wth....what do you expect, dimwit? Oh......not too much.....just happy to be here......like Stuart Smalley.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Some of these press conference questions.......man, I tell ya. "How much does this loss sting?" Wth....what do you expect, dimwit? Oh......not too much.....just happy to be here......like Stuart Smalley.

Just make sure we bring everyone back and get 2 portal guys.

Keep the big 3 together.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

I DONT WANT TO HEAR ANYMORE LOYER BS OR BS ABOUT HEIDE OR COLVIN.

Loyer kept us in this game in the first half and clearly Sampson shut it off in the 2nd half.

Heide with HUGE 3s and Colvin drove and had two big time pull ups and a huge 3.

TKR and Braden were amazing as well.

This one sucks but was amazing to see us play our best ball all year. Hope they’re all back for one last run next year.

 

[clankhan]

I DONT WANT TO HEAR ANYMORE LOYER BS OR BS ABOUT HEIDE OR COLVIN.

Loyer kept us in this game in the first half and clearly Sampson shut it off in the 2nd half.

Heide with HUGE 3s and Colvin drove and had two big time pull ups and a huge 3.

TKR and Braden were amazing as well.

This one sucks but was amazing to see us play our best ball all year. Hope they’re all back for one last run next year.

To be honest, if Braden / Kaufman played like they normally do, we win by 10+

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

To be honest, if Braden / Kaufman played like they normally do, we win by 10+

Braden played awesome and so did TKR. The Houston defense is damn good. And yeah, if either one hits one more shot, it’s a diff story. Hopefully they got a bad taste in their mouth and they’ll come back next year for a shot at the NC

 

[qazplm]

Cox got eaten by a screen so Braden jumped out to cover Cryer. Probably Loyer needed to rotate down after the inbounds but it happened really fast.

But you can't do that because who's covering the inbounder?

Better to let them try and make that pass all the way to the corner and a long shot than give up what we gave up.

We should have been inviting them to toss it back towards half court. All five players should have been in the paint on that play the whole time. You have time to recover on the long pass.

 

[qazplm]

Maybe it was Heide, but someone ball side needed to shade the inbounds after Braden broke out but he might have had his back turned.

Braden appeared to make an instant reaction (I'd say overreaction) to seeing an open player so I don't think that was part of the defensive design.

 

[Boileratthebeach]

The forearm shiver at the end was the most blatant non call, but how did Houston only get called for five fouls in the second half? While Purdue did struggle to get to the rim, there were numerous plays (especially on rebounds) when a Houston player would pull a Purdue player down and grab the board. That's just insane - FIVE?!

Compared to 11 in the first half. Just atrocious.

 

[FireRyanWalters]

Braden appeared to make an instant reaction (I'd say overreaction) to seeing an open player so I don't think that was part of the defensive design.

Also it was at like the 3rd to 4th second. Man in the middle doesn't break off and it's 5 second violation or an errant pass.

 

[Bank Shot Podcast]

Looks like it was a heck of a game.

 

[ImRonBurgandy?]

Get some a couple more effing rebounds and it doesn't even come down to that inbounds play. Rebounding was atrocious and imo ehat ultimately killed the Boilers.

 

[FireRyanWalters]

Get some a couple more effing rebounds and it doesn't even come down to that inbounds play. Rebounding was atrocious and imo ehat ultimately killed the Boilers.

Lol when they can maul our players and not get called... hell tkr 3rd? Foul was a uh player with 0 control falling on him during loose ball.

 

[Chi-Boiler]

To be honest, if Braden / Kaufman played like they normally do, we win by 10+

You do realize that Houston's entire defensive scheme was to shut them down and let other guys beat them right?

 

[Chi-Boiler]

But you can't do that because who's covering the inbounder?

Better to let them try and make that pass all the way to the corner and a long shot than give up what we gave up.

We should have been inviting them to toss it back towards half court. All five players should have been in the paint on that play the whole time. You have time to recover on the long pass.

I truly think that Houston scouted this. As Purvis said above, Braden has been doing this on defensive inbounds all year, and it's usually a good idea. He acts like he's defending the inbounder, and then quickly turns to double/cover an open guy. They scouted it specifically for this situation and it worked for them. Give them credit for making a play. Truthfully, it's probably Cox' job to switch back, and he almost did, but it was a shade too late. I actually think he committed goaltending on the play, which in theory would have been a normal stopped clock situation that would have allowed Loyer back in the game, which he wasn't because it was a clock review. Would Loyer have gotten off a better pass? Probably not, Braden actually got a decent shot off.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

To be honest, if Braden / Kaufman played like they normally do, we win by 10+

Houston had a lot to do with that.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

Braden appeared to make an instant reaction (I'd say overreaction) to seeing an open player so I don't think that was part of the defensive design.

He’s an instinctive player and his instincts are usually right. This time it didn’t work out, but it’s hard to be too critical of Braden.

 

[Wolegib]

Purdue gave it everything they had. It just wasn’t enough

 

[Gman544]

FYI the play was for Cryer. The inbounder saw Smih go after Cryer who was freed by the screen and made the pass, got himself in a spot to receive the ball for a layup, his teamate saw it, made the right pass and Purdue did not rotate, game over. Simple as that. Purdue played with heart and almost pulled if off. If they keep their players and add a good piece or two next year could be fun.

 

[PaBoiler78]

He’s an instinctive player and his instincts are usually right. This time it didn’t work out, but it’s hard to be too critical of Braden.

wasn't it Braden on that inbounds play vs Illanoy where their guard bounced it off his back but couldn't finish the layup

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

wasn't it Braden on that inbounds play vs Illanoy where their guard bounced it off his back but couldn't finish the layup

Yes but KJ somehow blew the bucket Lolol

 

[clankhan]

You do realize that Houston's entire defensive scheme was to shut them down and let other guys beat them right?

I’m just saying if they made one more bucket, we would’ve won. Not a knock on either player or anything like that

 

[Wolegib]

A very hard loss to accept. They played their heart out. You talk about how Sampson scouted Purdue and knew how to defend against Purdue. Nobody thought this game would be close. I believe painter and his staff scouted Houston just as hard! It just wasn’t meant to be. If Purdue was a 3 seed, their opponent would have been just as tough and the game would have been played elsewhere. Purdue proved they belonged and made me proud. Most people thought the season was lost when Jacobsen went down for the season. This season was possibly Psinter’s best coaching jobs. First he lost Catchings and then Jacobsen. He adjusted on the fly and got the best possible outcome.