Harris headed to the Border! 🤔. 🤪

[TheGunner]

so Harris is going to the border. I assume she thinks its better (to be fashionably) late than never.

Just another flip flop from the Queen Flip Flopper.

Harris campaign plans trip to the US southern border amid polling concerns | CNN Politics

Vice President Kamala Harris is planning to visit the US-Mexico border while in Arizona on Friday, according to a source familiar with the discussions, as Harris tries to close the gap with former President Donald Trump on the issue of immigration.

amp.cnn.com

 

[mediaexpert]

FACT CHECK

1, Democrats, grappling with years of border crises, have tried to flip the script on Republicans after the GOP blocked a bipartisan border measure earlier this year. FACT CHECK Oklahoma Republican James Lankford and Arizona independent Kyrsten Sinema, voted against advancing the measure Thursday, protesting what they said was an unserious process focused on political optics. There were arguments about the 8k illegals and how they would be vetted, plus there was foreign aid to Ukraine tied into the bill. All the R's voted against the bill because it was too lenient, and all Buden had to do was reenact Trump's Executive Orders on the border.

2. Harris campaign officials think she has a case on immigration: Using the failed bipartisan border measure to cast Trump as unserious on the border and citing her time as California attorney general when she tackled transnational criminal gangs. FACT CHECK Please note CNN did not fact-check either FALSE CLAIM as did the ABC Moderators during the debate.

3. Republicans have falsely claimed that Harris is the “border czar,” casting her as solely responsible for the management of the US-Mexico border. It’s a title that Harris’ team has been trying to shake off since the moment President Joe Biden assigned her to tackle the root causes of migration in 2021“While we fight to move our nation forward to a brighter future, Donald Trump and his extremist allies will keep trying to pull us backward. We all remember what they did to tear families apart, and now they have pledged to carry out the largest deportation, a mass deportation in American history,” she said. FACT CHECK Google this, and you will see pages of media agreeing with this, but look what I found:

FACT CHECK: Harris was Biden’s second 'border czar,' despite recent media claims

(The Center Square) – As Vice President Kamala Harris began campaigning to become the next Democratic presidential nominee, media outlets started claiming she was never President Joe Biden’s border czar.

www.thecentersquare.com

Friday’s visit to Arizona also comes at a time when border crossings are the lowest they’ve been since 2020 – and comes on the heels of new polling that shows Trump leading in the battleground state. FACT CHECK - The bi-partisan border bill was a joke compared to the 91 Executive Orders Trump passed on the border. We had conservatively 11 million illegals, and after all the heat, Biden enacted a Trump Executive Order, and illegals crossing dropped, but instead of praising Trump, the Dems claimed victory. Are you kidding me?

 

[Katscratch]

FACT CHECK

Friday’s visit to Arizona also comes at a time when border crossings are the lowest they’ve been since 2020

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In your words, as you summarized above.
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[bonefish1]

democrats are liars. What else is new.

 

[Boiler Buck]

In your words, as you summarized above.
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NPR says border crossings are low now because Biden finally made an executive action to make it so ....as well as Mexico beefing up enforcement, via Biden encouragement. Something he could have done early on but didn't want to because he didn't care about securing America.....and finally did because it was election season.

From the article.....
"President Biden issued executive actions severely restricting asylum claims at the border, and migrants who cross are more likely to be removed from the country expeditiously.

Under the new policy, the processing of most asylum claims at the southern U.S. border is suspended when the seven-day average of unauthorized crossings exceeds 2,500. The restriction could be suspended 14 days after the seven-day-average drops to 1,500 per day.
Due to this rule and Mexico’s beefed-up enforcement, unauthorized crossings in June hit the lowest level since President Biden took office in 2021"

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/30/nx-s1-5051615/border-migrant-crossings-mexico-us-illegal-cbpone

 

[Katscratch]

NPR says border crossings are low now because Biden finally made an executive action to make it so ....as well as Mexico beefing up enforcement, via Biden encouragement. Something he could have done early on but didn't want to because he didn't care about securing America.....and finally did because it was election season.

From the article.....
"President Biden issued executive actions severely restricting asylum claims at the border, and migrants who cross are more likely to be removed from the country expeditiously.

Under the new policy, the processing of most asylum claims at the southern U.S. border is suspended when the seven-day average of unauthorized crossings exceeds 2,500. The restriction could be suspended 14 days after the seven-day-average drops to 1,500 per day.
Due to this rule and Mexico’s beefed-up enforcement, unauthorized crossings in June hit the lowest level since President Biden took office in 2021"

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/30/nx-s1-5051615/border-migrant-crossings-mexico-us-illegal-cbpone

The 2024 legislation attempts followed by the executive order to me was clearly an election year effort. Trump asking his allies to block it was also to me clearly an election year effort.

 

[Riveting]

so Harris is going to the border. I assume she thinks its better (to be fashionably) late than never.

Just another flip flop from the Queen Flip Flopper.

Harris campaign plans trip to the US southern border amid polling concerns | CNN Politics

Vice President Kamala Harris is planning to visit the US-Mexico border while in Arizona on Friday, according to a source familiar with the discussions, as Harris tries to close the gap with former President Donald Trump on the issue of immigration.

amp.cnn.com

She did go to Europe after the Lester Holt interview, so now she is going to the border too.

Not only that, she has picked up an endorsement from Iran, who appreciate the Biden/Harris appeasement policy that let them fill their coffers. Watching for the ayatollah to do a campaign ad and funnel big money into the campaign.

 

[Boiler Buck]

The 2024 legislation attempts followed by the executive order to me was clearly an election year effort. Trump asking his allies to block it was also to me clearly an election year effort.

And neither of the above would or did solve the problem. Both would/did help a little.

But after all this time it's time to solve this expensive and extremely dangerous issue.

 

[Boiler Buck]

These "NEW COMERS" illegal & legal are breaking the bank on both Medicare and making it harder for the Govt to fund future SS just due to the expensive DEM handouts.

Either they work and contribute to SS or be deported. None should be on ANY handouts whatsoever. And yes, if they want to work give them Work Permits. Otherwise ship them out.

But deport ALL who get in ANY legal trouble, and deport ALL who will not work.

Any of them want to be citizens, apply like anyone else and get in line.

 

[mediaexpert]

The 2024 legislation attempts followed by the executive order to me was clearly an election year effort. Trump asking his allies to block it was also to me clearly an election year effort.

Copied from above:

FACT CHECK

1. Democrats, grappling with years of border crises, have tried to flip the script on Republicans after the GOP blocked a bipartisan border measure earlier this year. FACT CHECK Oklahoma Republican James Lankford and Arizona independent Kyrsten Sinema, voted against advancing the measure Thursday, protesting what they said was an unserious process focused on political optics. There were arguments about the 8k illegals and how they would be vetted, plus there was foreign aid to Ukraine tied into the bill. All the R's voted against the bill because it was too lenient, and all Biden had to do was reenact Trump's Executive Orders on the border.
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Possibly, Trump asked his colleagues to vote against it, but I'm not at all convinced that Trump did it for a talking point. The talking point is NOT about immigration in 2024! The talking point is that the Biden Administration repealed President Trump's ninety-one Executive Orders to seal the border. And then, in 2021, 2022, and 2023 while telling the American People plus Congress that the border is secure.

The Florida and the Texas Governors then sent less than one percent of their illegals to Democrat cities, especially those who bragged that they welcome anyone. After that, the Mayors complained to the media, and Biden/Harris acted. In 2024, the American People finally learned the truth.

 

[TheGunner]

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In your words, as you summarized above.
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Great job Biden Harris. Much like gas prices, it only took 3 1/2 years and an election cycle to actually DO SOMETHING. The last implications on inflation, the budget deficit, housing costs and crime, 🤷‍♂️ oh well.

And all it took was Biden’s executive order, contrary to liberal belief on this board. And the liberals are still arguing about it.

 

[Katscratch]

Great job Biden Harris. Much like gas prices, it only took 3 1/2 years and an election cycle to actually DO SOMETHING. The last implications on inflation, the budget deficit, housing costs and crime, 🤷‍♂️ oh well.

And all it took was Biden’s executive order, contrary to liberal belief on this board. And the liberals are still arguing about it.

So you were a fan of Biden's Executive Order; you just thought it should have happened sooner?

Agreed.

 

[bonefish1]

Harris is like the typical democrat race hustlers who show up anytime there's a crisis and tv cameras in order to give the appearance of caring. She's learned this technique well from hustlers like Jesse and Rev Al. Unfortunately, the dummy dem voting base believes it and laps up the pandering like a thirsty dog.

 

[TheGunner]

So you were a fan of Biden's Executive Order; you just thought it should have happened sooner?

Agreed.

Am I a fan of Joes XO…yes. Should it have happened sooner….Yeah, like 3 1/2 years ago.

You can go back and read the posts on this forum. The Democrats (in Congress and here) argued the bill that Trump had rejected was necessary to stop the influx of illegal immigrants and the GOP and posters here have been saying that a bill wasn’t necessary just that Joe needed to get off his a$$ and sign the XO.

Joe and the liberals could have controlled illegal immigration, they just didn’t care and to be honest, when Joe stated “surge the border” it was obvious to me that he actually wanted it to happen.

So the immigration problem was brought on by Biden and Harris’s policies…contrary to what they say today

 

[Mr_Scott]

Trump is like the typical maga race hustlers who show up anytime there's a crisis and tv cameras in order to give the appearance of caring. He's learned this technique well from hustlers like Roger Stone and Steve Bannon. Unfortunately, the dummy maga voting base believes it and laps up the pandering like a thirsty dog.

fify

 

[mediaexpert]

Am I a fan of Joes XO…yes. Should it have happened sooner….Yeah, like 3 1/2 years ago.

You can go back and read the posts on this forum. The Democrats (in Congress and here) argued the bill that Trump had rejected was necessary to stop the influx of illegal immigrants and the GOP and posters here have been saying that a bill wasn’t necessary just that Joe needed to get off his a$$ and sign the XO.

Joe and the liberals could have controlled illegal immigration, they just didn’t care and to be honest, when Joe stated “surge the border” it was obvious to me that he actually wanted it to happen.

So the immigration problem was brought on by Biden and Harris’s policies…contrary to what they say today

Furthermore, the Biden/Harris XO was copied from Trump's XO.

However, I don't believe that H/B doesn't care; I believe it has to do with the Globalistic Corporations that funded them. They want open borders and unfair trade practices with China to get CHEAP LABOR. This has been going on by both sides for the past forty years, except for Trump. This is why Trump negotiated new trade practices with China, built the wall, and got Mexico to pay for it. And yes, Trump convinced Obrador that the Cartels were killing his power in Mexico, and Obrador knew he couldn't write a check for the wall, so he sent troops to his southern border and his northern border, and he kept the asylum seekers to remain in Mexico. The costs essentially were the same as building the wall.

In addition, the Military Industrial Complex has had DC involved in wars and conflicts for the past sixty years because they fund the Presidents. And the only exception was Trump.

This is so easy for me to see, and I don't understand why others don't connect the dots. Instead, the media (which is owned by Globalist Corporations) has us chasing stories based on speculation.

 

[bonefish1]

fify

That's cute.
My prediction is that Harris shows up to the border for about 30 minutes of camera time, giggles through most of it, won't take any off scripted questions, and gets the hell out of there as quickly as possible. (then calls Lester Holt.....)

 

[TheGunner]

The 2024 legislation attempts followed by the executive order to me was clearly an election year effort. Trump asking his allies to block it was also to me clearly an election year effort.

The GOP effort was simple why negotiate when you don’t have to negotiate. I am sure you can find the liberal version, but why approval a bill that ties future administrations. Biden asked for the problem (aka “surge the border”) and it was his problem to close before the election. The joke is…everyone knows that Kamala will open it back up for her handlers if she is elected, just like Joe did.

The Senate Immigration Deal Would Only Make the Border Crisis Worse

On the heels of the worst month ever recorded at our southern border, a Senate deal is being quietly negotiated by Republican lawmakers. Desperate to secure more money for Ukraine, they are attempting to mollify public concern over the chaos that has reigned at the border since President Biden...

www.heritage.org