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I think his confidence is really shaken. He left at 4-6 points on the rim tonight. He can do that. When he has point blank shots, he's got to finish.
 
got some good boards tonight, but yes he is shaken a bit IMO...........chin up!
 
I think his confidence is really shaken. He left at 4-6 points on the rim tonight. He can do that. When he has point blank shots, he's got to finish.
Agree. Until he learns to remain balanced and use his strength to dunk through contact instead of stretching, reaching, and flipping finger rolls and reverses, this problem will continue.
 
I think he is so worried about traveling, turning it over, getting fouled, etc. that he literally becomes a statue at times..........afraid to use any foot work. Then he just stretches to lay up his shots, and you know what happens next. Just needs to play, not think. IDK, just my opinion.
 
Agree. Until he learns to remain balanced and use his strength to dunk through contact instead of stretching, reaching, and flipping finger rolls and reverses, this problem will continue.

Yup. I feel like he is trying to do much when he gets the basketball. Just do you hook shots and your drop steps and go up and dunk it and the rest will come...
 
haas has had to play behind (and learn) from some top guys in ajh and CS.
If CS leaves, I think haas shines next season
 
haas has had to play behind (and learn) from some top guys in ajh and CS.
If CS leaves, I think haas shines next season
He can't shine until he plays through contact, not contact to the body, but to his arms...holds the ball weak and needs to keep it up high...does that and I think he could shine next game, not next year....
 
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I think his confidence is really shaken. He left at 4-6 points on the rim tonight. He can do that. When he has point blank shots, he's got to finish.
Okay, just as I just did with PJ, I'm going to defend Haas. He's 6th in minutes played, and yet he's 1st in FG % at 61%. I'll take that production any day of the week.
 
His confidence is definitely shaken. He was always smiling and cheering others on and now he just droops. Obviously he is targeted -and abused - in every game so his inability to get it done is not all his fault. Hopefully the coaches will be able to work with him to move him through this down period.

Well, if we can see the efffect it's having, obviously the other coaches see that and know that if you make life difficult for him by being really physical and yes, fouling until the refs call it, then you can negate the size advantage.
Painter and Haas have to figure that out and not let it get to him mentally.
His demeanor is definitely different and it's impacting his play. Just my observations.
 
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Okay, just as I just did with PJ, I'm going to defend Haas. He's 6th in minutes played, and yet he's 1st in FG % at 61%. I'll take that production any day of the week.
61% doesn't mean much if you aren't taking many shots. That is like saying I am 100% from the field because I made one shot and have never taken another.

Something is up with Haas and it's all mental.
 
Still feel Haas gets different set of rules due to his size. Players hang all over him. It could be considered assault at times.
Normally I would agree but he could have easily been called for a flagrant when he pulled Tate down with him in the second half. I am sure he gets frustrated with people hanging on him all game but he still needs to watch where his elbows and his big Bear paws are at all times.
 
I'm still shocked how he couldn't put that last basket in. LIke watching a 5 yr old miss the first bucket with a ping pong ball on Bozo buckets.

10 boards which were important though. Need him to contribute and looking forward to improved play from him.
 
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His confidence is definitely shaken. He was always smiling and cheering others on and now he just droops. Obviously he is targeted -and abused - in every game so his inability to get it done is not all his fault. Hopefully the coaches will be able to work with him to move him through this down period.
We have seen him play much better and stronger before. He'll be back to the old Haas and still make improvements. He is def one of the good guys and positive leaders on the team. Big fan of the big guy.
 
I can deal with him missing shots if he plays and rebounds like he did in the 2nd half last night. Hell he even blocked a big shot and came away with the ball if I'm not mistaken. I felt like he was playing like a 7-footer on the boards and on defense even though he rimmed a couple offensively.
 
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I'll give him credit. His first shot was a catch, drop step, dunk attempt that got "blocked" (he got fouled) and his next shot attempt was a made dunk. That's what he needs to do. Get deep. Turn and dunk or turn and pass. Make the game easy. Ya he missed some bunnies. So did Vince. It wasn't a great game but Haas was effective and they were really fouling and frustrated with his size.
 
Haas is still mentally weak. You can't be 7'2'' and miss that many shots at the rim. I think he is officiated unfairly because of his size and it has broken his confidence. He looks like Travis Carroll out there right now. He got 10 boards that pretty much fell to him. His hands are like clubs when he attempts to grab the ball. It's tough to watch.

I honestly feel bad for him and I hope he recovers. He has the size to dominate. Hope he figures the mental part out because he seems like a good guy you want to root for.
 
I think Haas needs to spend more time screening for teammates and working to get good shots for others. He isn't having much success at the moment running directly to the block, posting up, and fighting for position. Opposing defenses collapse in the lane limiting dribble penetration and making post entries difficult. If he gets a post feed, he is often operating in traffic or he has been pushed out beyond his comfort zone.

I would like to see him spend more time moving around out of the lane setting screens. If he ends up with a guard or small forward on him on a switch or his defender gets lost then go post up. Otherwise, his primary job is screener not scorer.

Moving away from the basket will limit his scoring, but he isn't really scoring consistently at this point anyway. In addition, his stagnant presence in the lane is making life tougher for anyone else that is trying to score in the paint. If he isn't a threat to score and is effectively just clogging the lane, he has to find some other way to contribute offensively or it really doesn't make much sense to have him on the floor.
 
61% doesn't mean much if you aren't taking many shots. That is like saying I am 100% from the field because I made one shot and have never taken another.

Something is up with Haas and it's all mental.
He's taken 122 shots and hit 74. He's second in points on the team behind CS. I'll still take that production. I'm sure he's disappointed that he's not doing better, but he's not doing as poorly as some portray. There are other players doing worse that folks on here are screaming they should be playing more.
 
Haas is still mentally weak. You can't be 7'2'' and miss that many shots at the rim. I think he is officiated unfairly because of his size and it has broken his confidence. He looks like Travis Carroll out there right now. He got 10 boards that pretty much fell to him. His hands are like clubs when he attempts to grab the ball. It's tough to watch.

I honestly feel bad for him and I hope he recovers. He has the size to dominate. Hope he figures the mental part out because he seems like a good guy you want to root for.

Ok.

You may have gone overboard. Haas and Carroll are not remotely similiar!
 
Props for Haas.... 10 Rebounds in 20 minutes.....that is a major improvement. I will take 6 pts and 10 R from Haas in 20 minutes any day.

If you want to gripe...gripe on his D that is where he limits his PT.
 
i must be watching a different game than you guys. How many fouls did he draw? How many shots did he effect? Too much box score judgement.

This is a good point, Top. Thompson fouled out, and Tate had four. When Tate went out with his third late in the first half.....the game turned, and although the Boilers had trouble holding on.....it was absolutely one of the critical points in the game.

Even going back to the Minnesota game, three of their front-line players fouled out.

Now.....have there been issues? yes......can there be more production/improvement? yes

But IH and CS are impacting the game in other ways besides points and rebounds....I also liked a few of the times IH made some nice strides on D. Did he struggle at times? yes

He's still a "big" part of the team.....I'd rather see the struggles now than later in the year, and in the BTT or NCAA's.

Also....while it might have been a little bit of a struggle/off game for CS....I'll take that for an off-day....he seemed a little frustrated.....but give some credit to OSU.....they have some players.....even now with Bates-Diop out for the year.
 
i must be watching a different game than you guys. How many fouls did he draw? How many shots did he effect? Too much box score judgement.
Exactly! He's missed 39% of his shots, he hasn't taken a 3, so he's playing within his range, he's rebounding, and as you said "altering shots". Which is what you want your big guy to do.
 
Okay, just as I just did with PJ, I'm going to defend Haas. He's 6th in minutes played, and yet he's 1st in FG % at 61%. I'll take that production any day of the week.

Uhh he's also 7 foot 2 and his shots all come from basically right around the rim. I sure hope he'd be 1st in FG %

Haas seems like a really, really great kid, and he will be an important piece if Purdue wants to make a run, so definitely rooting for him!
 
But, Painter has clearly lost faith in him as evidenced by him not being in the games late and relying on Biggie at the 5. Which is fine, but that's a result of Haas committing too many turnovers and not converting on a number of point blank bunnies.
I'm fine with Haas being a 6th man, he's a helluva player to bring off the bench. But, I also believe he's talented enough and has the tools to have a more positive impact and he's simply not using those tools correctly.
 
Ok.

You may have gone overboard. Haas and Carroll are not remotely similiar!

My point being they are/were both soft. Haas should be terrorizing the rim and making people think twice about coming in between him and the basket. I'm praying he develops a killer instinct. He's too nice out there.

Basketball is a "what have you done for me lately" sport. Haas started the season off well but he's been slumping since the competition has increased.
 
Footwork around the basket and confidence at the foul line are the two areas where I see the clearest improvement in Haas in his 2.5 seasons.

Ball handling is still an area that needs more improvement.

He's a hard-working kid and a good basketball player. He'll get there.
 
My point being they are/were both soft. Haas should be terrorizing the rim and making people think twice about coming in between him and the basket. I'm praying he develops a killer instinct. He's too nice out there.

Basketball is a "what have you done for me lately" sport. Haas started the season off well but he's been slumping since the competition has increased.


He has to be careful, though, especially in the B1G season where he'll face quality competition every night. Terrorizing around the basket is a good way to get into early foul trouble, especially when you're 7'2" 295. That won't be particularly helpful, either.
 
He has to be careful, though, especially in the B1G season where he'll face quality competition every night. Terrorizing around the basket is a good way to get into early foul trouble, especially when you're 7'2" 295. That won't be particularly helpful, either.

The big ten refs put a lid on any sort of physical play so once again he'd be penalized for being big so I get your point.
 
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