I do respect IU football fans for their perseverence.After all,they havent had a career winning coach since Bo Mc Millan left in 1947.
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Tom Allen they guy who screwed up Dick Dullaghan's dynasty at BD! Warren loves them some Tom Allen.
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In basketball Purdue owns iu 115-89.
Purdue will own iu as long as you live.
Not to start an argument, but here's my question for you....Allen has had two weeks to prepare for Utah, whom I think is over-rated this year. How is it that his vaunted defense allowed Joe to run for 222 yards, and catch passes for 51....almost a 300 yard game? Sorry, but I'm not impressed with his "coaching" ability anymore than I've ever been impressed with Crean from his days at Marquette to now. I said it at the time, Fred Glass screwed the pooch with this one.
Two things. Joe Williams is a great running back. His last four games he rushed for 149, 181, 172 and 332 yards. That's an average of 208 so he was only 14 yards over his last 4 game average. Second, missing Marcus Oliver really hurt the linebacker depth. Also a third thing, he just got married so was basically on his honeymoon so he had some built in mojo.
Outcoached? IU trailed WKU 28-17 at halftime, and it wasn't Sudfeld who won the game for IU, it was Jordan Howard, who had lots of rushing yards. IU barely beat (38-35) a Conference USA team which put up over 500 yards on IU.
On his honeymoon....Hell man, he had to be dead tired then.Two things. Joe Williams is a great running back. His last four games he rushed for 149, 181, 172 and 332 yards. That's an average of 208 so he was only 14 yards over his last 4 game average. Second, missing Marcus Oliver really hurt the linebacker depth. Also a third thing, he just got married so was basically on his honeymoon so he had some built in mojo.
Nice cherrypicking.
Here are the facts:
2016 (includes bowl games)
WKU
Total Defense - 368 yards/gm (37 in nation)
Scoring Defense - 24.1 ppg (39 in nation) - closer to 21 ppg before Conference Championship and Bowl
IU
Total Defense - 373 yards/gm (41 in nation)
Scoring Defense - 27.3 ppg (57 in nation)
You're beloved Tom Allen gave up more yardage and ppg than Nick Holt did this season. WKU played Alabama and IU played tOSU.
Yes he is. WKU had two TOs, otherwise they would have beaten IU at IU in 2015. LOL
If you could read I was using the stats WKU played against P5 teams. You know the same teams he will be playing year in and year out now. No more Conference USA teams every week.
Got it. So the true measure of his ability is how he fared against P5 schools with a Conference USA roster? Right.
IU also plays in the Big Ten East. And they improved from 112th in total defense to 41st. Next season, very likely to be a top 20 defense. Tom Allen can coach defense. This isn't a concern.
Have to agree with those that are questioning Allen as the permanent head coach. A couple times last night it looked like he was in way over his head in running the team as head coach but I guess that is to be expected when you hire someone who only has high school experience as a head coach. Don't really see how this ends well for IU.
He just got married?So what?That is an unusual excuse even for IU fans.Two things. Joe Williams is a great running back. His last four games he rushed for 149, 181, 172 and 332 yards. That's an average of 208 so he was only 14 yards over his last 4 game average. Second, missing Marcus Oliver really hurt the linebacker depth. Also a third thing, he just got married so was basically on his honeymoon so he had some built in mojo.
So let me get this straight. A guy that takes over an injury depleted roster, with one of the worst QBs in the country, and no kicking game whatsoever, a team that just went through the turmoil of a head coaching change, goes to Santa Clara and loses in basically a road game, by 2 points to a top 20 team that has won 10 bowl games in the last 11 years. And you guys think he did poorly? In his head coaching debut?
Stick to engineering guys.
Stick to engineering guys.
That's depends on whether he can find a QB and an OC. Allen clearly is not an expert in that area. Defense and STs is his strength.
A fan of the worst football program in the history of the NCAA accusing others of not knowing football? I'm really enjoying this thread.
One of the worst QB's in the country even though he was one of the best in the big ten? Lol
I don't think you did poorly but instead played average. It was an extremely sloppy game from both sides with the turnovers. Did you know you have the longest winless streak regarding bowl games?
Why on earth do you think IU will improve on defense vs. this year? You're losing some experienced DLs and LBs. IU with a top-20 defense? LMAO
You are totally delusional, but then again you are a Loosier fan, so I shouldn't be too surprised.
Keep in mind they are ecstatic about going 6-7! Just another losing season same as the others.
Any more excuses you want to make for him? Reminds me of this board for the first couple years of Hazell. Always someone else's fault.
Pretty sure Lagow was second in the league in yardage and one of the leaders in touchdowns lol. He threw a lot of INT's but so did Blough.
You have to have an offense that will keep your defense off the field. IU doesn't have such a thing. As for Allen, he was a three year head coach at Ben Davis before he was replaced for going 25-12 at the premier football factory in Indiana. Not a very good resume` for being a Big Ten HC.
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He ruined BD keep in mind the first year they were 10-3 with Dullaghans system. So 15-9!!!! At BD!!!!!
Truly you have to be bad to screw up BD!
Just went and looked at his high school record. Pretty underwhelming for coaching at a powerhouse like Ben Davis. Won 2 sectionals in 3 years. No regional victories or beyond.
Mike Kirschner has been the coach since Allen left and he has a better winning percentage in that time and a state title under his belt in spite of him having to compete in the recently-formed 6A class that Tom Allen didn't have to deal with when he was there. I'd compare Allen's record at BD to Dullaghan's but there is no comparison.
I assumed that when IU hired a high school coach they were at least hiring one of the top ones. Guess not.
Mike Kirschner has been the coach since Allen left and he has a better winning percentage in that time and a state title under his belt in spite of him having to compete in the recently-formed 6A class that Tom Allen didn't have to deal with when he was there. I'd compare Allen's record at BD to Dullaghan's but there is no comparison.
I assumed that when IU hired a high school coach they were at least hiring one of the top ones. Guess not.
I saw the comments he made. One of the things that made Dick so great. Loyalty!
My favorite was the 76-7 Warren Central beat down they put on Coach Tom Allen's boys!
Would have been better off with Kevin Wright down here at IMG.
Who are we losing? Ralph Green is the only graduating senior on the defense. Scales and Fant may go pro but many expect they will be back. Rest of the defense is set to come back.
Not only comments but coming to practice along with many other high school coaches last week to watch bowl prep and talk with the team.
Wow. Football players from all over the state are sure to flock to Bloomington now!
Yeah, it was his mentor! Of course he did.
So that's why they looked like a hot turd last night? They used HS coaches that speak to them?
Mmm-hmmmm.
Where have we heard all of this before?
Oh, that's right: when Margie Burke hired Derp Derp and all of you guys were going out to buy your sweater vests and adjusting the bills on your caps, proudly claiming you would dominate.
How did that work out for you?
Jeepers - all eggs in the basket guys!
Idiot. Hazell was 16-10 at Kent State with one good (winning) season.
If you did any research at all you'd see that Brohm's team has won 8, 12, and 11 games in three years, including back-to-back C-USA Championships and bowl wins. His team scored 45 ppg and gave up 21 in the regular season.
Burke is long gone and the new Purdue AD, Bobinski, actually knows what he's doing.
Your AD hired Tom Crean (the gift that keeps on giving) and he also hired a former HS coach, Tom Allen, to be your new football HC. The Loosiers are going to return to their historical place in the BIG - LAST.
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