Painter has had interest/offers from power 5 schools, and would have another power 5 job in a week if our AD was an irrational, emotion-driven moron.
Luckily, Mike Bobinski is not.
Fire Matt Painter Petition...
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Luckily, Mike Bobinski is not.
An actual Purdue hoops fan wouldn’t have to ask.
So who else? throughout your conversations you keep referencing these schools but when prompted fail to provide any level of detail.
Keep grasping at straws chubby Pally.
We are going to have forced shots and turnovers with shooters an ball handlers -but you know that. IMO Painter should have given him more leeway.
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I love it when people who do not see how players practice sit back and decide who should be getting minutes and who shouldn't. Did you say the same about Wheeler vs. Eifert?
This is my first post since the disaster Friday night. I guess it comes down to three things for me:
1) That loss to FDU was absolutely unacceptable and will permanently tarnish the legacy of a team that otherwise impressively overachieved. 30 years from now, nobody's going to remember that a team led by a guy who started playing basketball mid-way through high school and a couple true freshmen won 29 games and the outright B1G championship. They'll just remember that this team choked away the biggest upset loss in the history of the NCAA Tournament. That's too bad, but it's reality.
2) Purdue's recent trend in the NCAA Tournament is unacceptable. Painter is accountable for reversing it. Purdue was actually a really tough out in Painter's early years. From 2007 to 2012, 5 of the 6 teams that knocked Purdue out of the NCAA Tournament advanced to the Final Four. Two won the title. Only one was seeded below 3. Since 2015, Purdue has lost to four double-digit seeds, and only Virginia has advanced to the Final Four. That's on Painter, and it has to change.
3) We're crazy if we think Bobinski is going to fire Painter this year. No AD in the country would fire a coach coming off a 29-win season and an outright conference championship. Furthermore, no credible coach would come to Purdue knowing that what Painter accomplished this year will get him fired.
1) That loss to FDU was absolutely unacceptable and will permanently tarnish the legacy of a team that otherwise impressively overachieved. 30 years from now, nobody's going to remember that a team led by a guy who started playing basketball mid-way through high school and a couple true freshmen won 29 games and the outright B1G championship. They'll just remember that this team choked away the biggest upset loss in the history of the NCAA Tournament. That's too bad, but it's reality.
2) Purdue's recent trend in the NCAA Tournament is unacceptable. Painter is accountable for reversing it. Purdue was actually a really tough out in Painter's early years. From 2007 to 2012, 5 of the 6 teams that knocked Purdue out of the NCAA Tournament advanced to the Final Four. Two won the title. Only one was seeded below 3. Since 2015, Purdue has lost to four double-digit seeds, and only Virginia has advanced to the Final Four. That's on Painter, and it has to change.
3) We're crazy if we think Bobinski is going to fire Painter this year. No AD in the country would fire a coach coming off a 29-win season and an outright conference championship. Furthermore, no credible coach would come to Purdue knowing that what Painter accomplished this year will get him fired.
Clank is not a Purdue grad nor a Purdue fan. Even people who have never had any association with the university would not make some of the incorrect statements he has made. Just a silly, bored kid looking for attention.
Lol. So you’re saying that Eifert had a bigger ceiling than Wheeler ? Are you saying you’d rather have Eifert fight Diakite for the rebound instead of Wheeler?
I’m not sure about you but you don’t have to be some sort of Basketball guru to see the difference in size and ability.
Maybe your accusation earlier was merely you projecting?
Since you obviously didn't watch the games, I wouldn't expect you to understand. Emmanuel Dowuona was also much bigger and more athletic. How could Painter -- and you -- have possibly missed that fact?
The people who have a history of wanting Painter fired had a golden opportunity. But they overplayed their hand. The NCAA tourney debacle had every Purdue fan wondering if the time was right for a change. But when the self-appointed "leaders" of the movement began talking about Kelvin Sampson and Rick Pitino as alternatives to bring a banner to Purdue, and then openly wishing that star recruits would decommit to speed along Painter's firing, it causes the more sane fans to pause and reflect. It became clear that for some people, the demand for change wasn't about Purdue University or Purdue basketball. It was about their self-esteem and their desperate need to be associated with a winner.First of all, I went to Purdue when Painter played. I like him as a person and I think he a good regular season coach, but not many people outside of the Midwest care much about BIG titles and certainly not the national media calling Purdue the "Choke Artist Program of the Decade" etc...
College basketball is all about March and us losing to North Texas (#13), St. Peters (#15), Fairleigh Dickinson (#16) along with Little Rock etc. are not acceptable for program like Purdue.
The head coach is the CEO of their program, so when you have failed on the biggest stage you should be accountable for his failure.
I think Painter has become too comfortable, too stubborn and too rigid for the good of Purdue.
So with this petition, this is your chance to voice your displeasure with Matt Painter.
This might not get him fired but it should be put him on notice to at the very least to make major changes if he wants keep his job.
They may get another opportunity. No one knows what will happen next year. But if we see another embarassing end to the season, my advice to the "Ainters" is to not make it about you. Don't advocate things that will have long-term negative effects on Purdue. Most Purdue grads do not believe that the ends justify the means. So, do not make insanely radical statements about recruits or coaching choices that any level-headed person would not accept just to hang a banner in Mackey.
Lol. What does Dowuona have to do with wheeler and eifert? If YOU were an actual purdue fan you’d know that he was riding the bench all season and is almost the same height as Trevion And Wheeler. Why would we put him in? Are YOU sure you are a purdue fan?
Are you saying that in a free throw rebounding situation, you’d rather have Eifert rather than Wheeler or Big Cat?
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To want to replace Painter is ridiculous. So much of what he does is what you want from a coach and a program. On the other hand, expecting Painter to adapt his coaching is a reasonable requirement going forward. He just needs to tweak a few things to be better prepared for challenges on the court. The players say that the hardest class they have to take as a freshman is to learn the playbook. Seems to me that maybe the playbook is too damn thick. I have read where we have over 350 different offensive sets. If that is the case, that to me is a waste of paper and time. Pare down the playbook, institute a zone defense so that you can throw off the other teams offense and stop teams like St. Peter's and FDU. Stop being so predictable. Change how we handle the press. What we do currently against the press is crazy. We should take advantage of the situation to score. We have good enough athletes to break the press. This wait on a double team is the craziest way to advance a ball that I have ever watched.
Yeah cuz Eifert hadn’t gotten any important rebounds in that game…
The same boosters who won’t fill the NIL coffers to buy difference makers are the same ones who won’t spend 8 figures to buy him out. It’s simple math…
The other issue apparently unnoticed is that Trevion was horrible about blocking out on FTs. Great offensive and defensive rebounder, but that lack of attention to detail on Fts...like many times not stepping into the offensive player rather than stepping forward happened way toooooo many times.
Well put. This is about where I'm at. Matt Painter is a very good basketball coach. The entire Purdue community can be proud of the program he runs. That said, it's undeniable that he needs to reevaluate his approach to the NCAA Tournament, especially against smaller, scrappier teams.
Painter needs to stop this trend from snowballing further. Plucky mid-majors now have every reason to believe they can beat Purdue in the NCAA Tournament. Our own players seem to have lost confidence in winning those match-ups.
I support Painter but this has to be a wake up call.
I hope to see some significant changes to either the roster or the strategy.
If Painter doesn't sign any significant transfers and loses again in the tournament to another double digit seed for the 4th consecutive year then I'll be very disappointed in him.
He has to know that this is a must win year for Purdue.
I’m hoping he does change but I have very little faith he will.
Yes I remember. Painter waited until the last second which meant all of the good players were now expensive and he still didn't offer a penny.
Hopefully he learned from that debacle.
Once is mistake, twice is a decision.
It will be so frustrating if we're reading the same article next year about how he missed on Nelson in the portal. It's like a bad record stuck on repeat.
We have the Boilermaker Alliance NIL Collective chaired by Drew Brees. I'm sure if he went crying to Drew he'd cut him a check right away.
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Agree with most of this, with one exception:
The press breaking blame is on his failure last offseason. Gotta spend some money in the portal so we have more than 1 ball handler next season.
Hopefully the Purdue AD and the basketball staff are working on a plan that is better than, “who can we get for free?”
I thought last year would have been a wake up call. Unfortunately it happened again. This years loss was a total embarrassment for the fans and anyone associated with the team. I still support Painter, but he must change things to get a more positive result.
I still am shocked that the North Texas game - in Indy, nonetheless - wasn't the wake up call. I joined this board in the aftermath of St. Peter's. And now here we are.
Painter is unlikely to change anything. It's his point of pride that he rarely uses the transfer portal and doesn't offer NIL.
Unfortunately it's likely that he will just add another backfill for Jenkins to play 15 minutes per game and average 4 ppg.
I wouldn't be surprised if this happens next year. There probably won't be a significant roster change. I'm sure almost every D1 coach has taken a look at the Purdue - FDU game to see how the historic upset occurred.
The next mid major Purdue faces in the tournament will be confident and well prepared.
If we shoot 18% from 3 on 26 attempts no single player can bail you out (unless that player can hit a ton of 3's).
Smith turned the ball over 7 times with a turnover rate of 42% and had a box plus minus of -8.9 against FDU
Nijel Pack would have likely played better and it's possible that's all Purdue would have needed to win
He must change at least how to break and attack the press. That alone would be huge and more than likely more wins against teams that have no business beating them.
So who's coming up with the 800K to buy him? Seems easy until reality hits you in the face.
Well Painter and the coaching staff thought they sell Nijel Pack to sign for $0 so he can sing kumbaya with Furst, his former AAU teammate.
So Pack waited to hear more offers. Surprise, someone swooped in and took him and Purdue had a freshman point guard play 36 minutes to lose as a #1 against a #16.
Reality hit someone in the face and it wasn't me
What? We needed 800K. Who was getting it? That's the reality I'm referring to!
