FEMA running out of money?

[BB62]

Yeh, I could care less about Tehran. Flatten it and give it to Israel. Why do you support terrorists?

As for Trump and his foreign policy; what's your explanation for the global stability during his 4 years? Was that just luck and good timing?
How do you explain the global instability under Biden? We currently have 2 wars taking place that the US is involved in and in the case of Russia, we're actually helping to fund their war effort because we have to buy Russian oil (again, due to stupid democrat policies).

Yep. I support terrorists because I don't believe in wiping out Tehran and killing civilians. Believe it or not, civilian casualties are a big factor in military operations. Is this how your mind works?

Are you geopolitically challenged.......or just lack common sense......to believe we can bomb the hell out of whoever we want and there would be no consequences? I'm talking to a Catholic who has no problem murdering hundreds of thousands of people and a college graduate that thinks complex foreign policy issues can be solved by killing civilians. I guess it comes down to you thinking it's cool to be tough and Joe Sixpack stupid.

We're not in a war or at war. Supplying weapons to countries who are at war is not unusual. Trump was supplying weapons to Saudi Arabia in their war with Yemen. How is that different?

Tell me again your reasoning for why Hamas didn't attack Israel during trumps admin..........and something besides the parking lot scenario. Even trump isn't that stupid. You think Hamas is more scared of trump than they are of Israel? If you or trump are gonna claim credit for no wars starting, you have something besides everybody is scared of him. The only thing Hamas was paying attention to was Israel and their security arrangements or lack thereof. What Israel did or didn't do is what guided when and where Hamas would attack.

We were actually AT war, with troops and everything, during trumps term. Why does that not count? Because it didn't start during his term? But wars that started during Biden, where we have not sent troops, is different?

Who emboldened the Taliban by releasing 5000 prisoners? By hanging the Afghan government out to dry when he left them out of the negotiations? Pulled 10k troops out........and why didn't they take all their weapons with them?

 

[bonefish1]

What's happens to the price of oil? Did you think about that? I guess you would then blame Biden for it.

Typical. Can't see past your nose. Radical actions like this can have severe consequences. But at least MAGA dupes will feel better because we acted tough.

Why do you support terrorists and enemies of the US?

 

[bonefish1]

Yep. I support terrorists because I don't believe in wiping out Tehran and killing civilians. Believe it or not, civilian casualties are a big factor in military operations. Is this how your mind works?

Collateral damage. Israel didn't bomb Tehran until after Iran bombed Israel. Let me guess....Israel's response is 'disproportionate'. Right? Sorry, but the Iranian citizens are guilty by association. If they don't leave an area when Israel tells them to, then that's their fault.

Are you geopolitically challenged.......or just lack common sense......to believe we can bomb the hell out of whoever we want and there would be no consequences? I'm talking to a Catholic who has no problem murdering hundreds of thousands of people and a college graduate that thinks complex foreign policy issues can be solved by killing civilians. I guess it comes down to you thinking it's cool to be tough and Joe Sixpack stupid.

Murder? Where's the murder? Do you consider bombing the enemy murder?....I'm not sure you know how war works.

We're not in a war or at war. Supplying weapons to countries who are at war is not unusual. Trump was supplying weapons to Saudi Arabia in their war with Yemen. How is that different?

Tell me again your reasoning for why Hamas didn't attack Israel during trumps admin..........and something besides the parking lot scenario. Even trump isn't that stupid. You think Hamas is more scared of trump than they are of Israel? If you or trump are gonna claim credit for no wars starting, you have something besides everybody is scared of him. The only thing Hamas was paying attention to was Israel and their security arrangements or lack thereof. What Israel did or didn't do is what guided when and where Hamas would attack.

Again, you fail to realize that the bad actors around the globe fear Trump. Trump wouldn't be withholding weapons from Israel to appease the terrorists supporters of the democrat party. Trump would have provided the IDF with as much as they wanted and needed so they could finish the job.

We were actually AT war, with troops and everything, during trumps term. Why does that not count? Because it didn't start during his term? But wars that started during Biden, where we have not sent troops, is different?

Who emboldened the Taliban by releasing 5000 prisoners? By hanging the Afghan government out to dry when he left them out of the negotiations? Pulled 10k troops out........and why didn't they take all their weapons with them?

Binden to Iran: "DON'T"
Iran: "Whatever......."

 

[Quix0te]

What's happens to the price of oil? Did you think about that? I guess you would then blame Biden for it.

Well, let's see. Who cancelled the Keystone Pipeline and numerous oil leases on federal lands during his first day in office?

 

[JBoiler23]

we have to buy Russian oil (again, due to stupid democrat policies).

When did we stop? I don't understand the use of the word "again" in this sentence.

 

[BB62]

Collateral damage. Israel didn't bomb Tehran until after Iran bombed Israel. Let me guess....Israel's response is 'disproportionate'. Right? Sorry, but the Iranian citizens are guilty by association. If they don't leave an area when Israel tells them to, then that's their fault.

Murder? Where's the murder? Do you consider bombing the enemy murder?....I'm not sure you know how war works.

Again, you fail to realize that the bad actors around the globe fear Trump. Trump wouldn't be withholding weapons from Israel to appease the terrorists supporters of the democrat party. Trump would have provided the IDF with as much as they wanted and needed so they could finish the job.

Binden to Iran: "DON'T"
Iran: "Whatever......."

What weapons did we withhold?

Finish the job lol. The leaders of Hamas aren't even in Gaza. So now you're gonna blame Biden for Hamas still being around because we stopped giving Israel 2000 lb bombs.

You never answered. How is it that a catholic is so keen on labeling women and children of a different race/religion as the enemy and killing them?

 

[BB62]

Well, let's see. Who cancelled the Keystone Pipeline and numerous oil leases on federal lands during his first day in office?

Now now. Don't change the topic until you answer the question.

 

[BB62]

Collateral damage. Israel didn't bomb Tehran until after Iran bombed Israel. Let me guess....Israel's response is 'disproportionate'. Right? Sorry, but the Iranian citizens are guilty by association. If they don't leave an area when Israel tells them to, then that's their fault.

Murder? Where's the murder? Do you consider bombing the enemy murder?....I'm not sure you know how war works.

Again, you fail to realize that the bad actors around the globe fear Trump. Trump wouldn't be withholding weapons from Israel to appease the terrorists supporters of the democrat party. Trump would have provided the IDF with as much as they wanted and needed so they could finish the job.

Binden to Iran: "DON'T"
Iran: "Whatever......."

You are simpatico with trump. Fear is the best motivator, just like with your children.

 

[bonefish1]

When did we stop? I don't understand the use of the word "again" in this sentence.

Why would we spend a penny on Russian oil when we could produce all the oil we need domestically? Again, the logic of democrats: Let's fund Russia, which will use the money in a war against Ukraine, and at the same time, give Ukraine money to fight Russia..... WTF.

 

[bonefish1]

What weapons did we withhold?

Finish the job lol. The leaders of Hamas aren't even in Gaza. So now you're gonna blame Biden for Hamas still being around because we stopped giving Israel 2000 lb bombs.

You never answered. How is it that a catholic is so keen on labeling women and children of a different race/religion as the enemy and killing them?

War is hell. Collateral damage.
Do you feel at bad for the Israeli women and children who were raped and murdered as you do for the Palestinian Hamas supporters?

 

[bonefish1]

You are simpatico with trump. Fear is the best motivator, just like with your children.

Fear works if you get the intended results, which Trump does.

 

[Quix0te]

Now now. Don't change the topic until you answer the question.

If you actually read the link that I posted, it provides the answer to your question very clearly:

""In theory, if we lost all Iranian production - which is not our base case - OPEC+ has enough spare capacity to make up for the shock," said Amrita Sen, co-founder of Energy Aspects."

 

[Boiler Buck]

No, you take out Iran's oil terminals and coastal refineries in the Persian Gulf. This could easily be done with drones and missiles and we have the US Fifth Fleet in the Gulf to keep the Strait of Hormuz open for oil tankers transporting oil from other nations.

Without oil revenue, Iran is toothless.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/opec-could-cushion-iran-oil-shock-not-broader-disruption-2024-10-03/

Trump took them out strategically not by force, and made IRAN poor.

Biden turned that around and made them rich by reversal of T policy......and why IRAN has $ for their war proxies. All 100% on Biden.

 

[BB62]

War is hell. Collateral damage.
Do you feel at bad for the Israeli women and children who were raped and murdered as you do for the Palestinian Hamas supporters?

Your arguments are based on fallacies. Why do you feel the need to constantly accuse others of false opinions. Every damn post. I feel for innocent civilians who are killed in war. I don't split hairs about what religion or race they are, or if their government is a current enemy. So yes, yet again, what Hamas did on 10/7 was horrific and they should be held responsible. You want to wait a few weeks and accuse me of being pro Hamas again aswipe?

You still have answered the question........unless "war is hell" is your final answer. Ah you can say a few Hail Marys and be forgiven anyway.

 

[BB62]

If you actually read the link that I posted, it provides the answer to your question very clearly:

""In theory, if we lost all Iranian production - which is not our base case - OPEC+ has enough spare capacity to make up for the shock," said Amrita Sen, co-founder of Energy Aspects."

What does the shock mean? You realize the other day Biden was asked about striking Iranian refineries. He said it was being discussed. Oil jumped 5%. That was just a statement. It jumped 10% after the iran missle strike.

Considering MAGA says they don't want wars and we should mind our own business you guys sure come up with a lot of ideas that could lead to a war in the ME. It's almost like you are reactionary and don't look ahead. Like trump.

 

[Quix0te]

I feel for innocent civilians who are killed in war. I don't split hairs about what religion or race they are, or if their government is a current enemy. So yes, yet again, what Hamas did on 10/7 was horrific and they should be held responsible.

Hamas is a guerilla organization, like the Viet Cong or the Taliban. There is no standing Hamas Army. Hamas and the "people of Gaza" are one in the same. The Hamas terrorists are farmers and laborers and shopkeepers who go jihad to kill infidels when ordered to do so.

Prior to the Oct 7 attack, Hamas stationed hundreds of missiles and thousands of troops in northern Gaza. Nobody saw nothin'? Not one phone call to warn Israel about a forthcoming attack?

Those people of Gaza are not ‘innocent civilians’. They are Hamas terrorists and their enablers. I rejoice when they are slaughtered.

 

[Quix0te]

You realize the other day Biden was asked about striking Iranian refineries. He said it was being discussed. Oil jumped 5%. That was just a statement. It jumped 10% after the iran missle strike.

In my town of Madison, Indiana, gasoline was $1.85/gal on Election Day, 2020. Since Biden took office, it has doubled and tripled. Now it's back down to $3.25 again, so a mere 5% or 10% increase would be chump change compared to the Biden/Kerry/Granholm energy apocalypse.

 

[JBoiler23]

Why would we spend a penny on Russian oil when we could produce all the oil we need domestically? Again, the logic of democrats: Let's fund Russia, which will use the money in a war against Ukraine, and at the same time, give Ukraine money to fight Russia..... WTF.

Oh, so you've avoided the question. Imagine my surprise.

 

[bonefish1]

What weapons did we withhold?

Israel's Netanyahu blames Biden for withholding weapons. US officials say that's not the whole story

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is claiming that the United States is withholding weapons needed for the war in Gaza.

apnews.com

Finish the job lol. The leaders of Hamas aren't even in Gaza. So now you're gonna blame Biden for Hamas still being around because we stopped giving Israel 2000 lb bombs.

You never answered. How is it that a catholic is so keen on labeling women and children of a different race/religion as the enemy and killing them?

 

[bonefish1]

Your arguments are based on fallacies. Why do you feel the need to constantly accuse others of false opinions. Every damn post. I feel for innocent civilians who are killed in war. I don't split hairs about what religion or race they are, or if their government is a current enemy. So yes, yet again, what Hamas did on 10/7 was horrific and they should be held responsible. You want to wait a few weeks and accuse me of being pro Hamas again aswipe?

You still have answered the question........unless "war is hell" is your final answer. Ah you can say a few Hail Marys and be forgiven anyway.

What question do you want me to answer? Is the question "Do I feel sympathy for women and children killed in war"?
The answer is "no", not if they're the enemy and their husbands, brothers, etc are terrorists. I don't feel even a little sorry for them.

Where did you get the notion at Catholics are anti-war? You should read about Saint Michael, the archangel, who defends us in battle.

Michael (archangel) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

God supports the war against good and evil (terrorists) and fights on the side for the righteous.

 

[Boilermaker03]

Probably? We don't know that. If the numbers go back decades as they say that's a lot of illegals every year.

It's a sheer numbers game. There's millions of more illegals coming in now than all those years ago. So yes, probably.

 

[BB62]

Trump took them out strategically not by force, and made IRAN poor.

Biden turned that around and made them rich by reversal of T policy......and why IRAN has $ for their war proxies. All 100% on Biden.

Iran wasn't poor. Lol. They're THIRD in the world in proven oil reserves. They're second in natural gas reserves. China, India and others danced around his sanctions and found ways to get Iranian oil.

Trump made Iran poor. More propaganda.

It's a sheer numbers game. There's millions of more illegals coming in now than all those years ago. So yes, probably.

Yeah, as always you bring the facts. Probably.

 

[Boiler Buck]

Iran wasn't poor. Lol. They're THIRD in the world in proven oil reserves. They're second in natural gas reserves. China, India and others danced around his sanctions and found ways to get Iranian oil.

Trump made Iran poor. More propaganda.

Yeah, as always you bring the facts. Probably.

No surprise.....The data shows you again not to be well read, and as usual incorrect,

Trump sanctions had a crippling effect on Iran GDP.....
2023 $413.5B. They LOVE Biden!!
2021. $359.1 Biden lifts sanctions
2020 $239.7 Sanctions continue
2019. $283.7 Sanctions continue
2018. $329.7. T increases sanctions
2017 $487.6 Trump sanctions start EOY
2016. $458B. Pres O.

Heck of a difference---
$458 under O.....
Fall to $239.7 B under T.

That's almost a 48% decrease.

No wonder Iran has assassination plots this fall, and have interfered with the election via hacking T.

Iran GDP 1960-2024

GDP at purchaser's prices is the sum of gross value added by all resident producers in the economy plus any product taxes and minus any subsidies not included in the value of the products. It is calculated without making deductions for depreciation of fabricated assets or for depletion and...

www.macrotrends.net

 

[Quix0te]

The way to bring Iran to its knees is to take out Iran's oil terminals and coastal refineries in the Persian Gulf. The US doesn't even need to get involved, all we do is provide Iran with the satellite intelligence and weaponry - drones and missiles. And we have the Fifth Fleet in the Gulf to keep the Strait of Hormuz open for oil tankers transporting oil from other nations, so Iran can't retaliate by naval blockage.

 

[BB62]

In my town of Madison, Indiana, gasoline was $1.85/gal on Election Day, 2020. Since Biden took office, it has doubled and tripled. Now it's back down to $3.25 again, so a mere 5% or 10% increase would be chump change compared to the Biden/Kerry/Granholm energy apocalypse.

Meanwhile, down by the river, grandma has fallen and can't get up.

 

[Riveting]

No surprise.....The data shows you again not to be well read, and as usual incorrect,

Trump sanctions had a crippling effect on Iran GDP.....
2023 $413.5B. They LOVE Biden!!
2021. $359.1 Biden lifts sanctions
2020 $239.7 Sanctions continue
2019. $283.7 Sanctions continue
2018. $329.7. T increases sanctions
2017 $487.6 Trump sanctions start EOY
2016. $458B. Pres O.

Heck of a difference---
$458 under O.....
Fall to $239.7 B under T.

That's almost a 48% decrease.

No wonder Iran has assassination plots this fall, and have interfered with the election via hacking T.

Iran GDP 1960-2024

GDP at purchaser's prices is the sum of gross value added by all resident producers in the economy plus any product taxes and minus any subsidies not included in the value of the products. It is calculated without making deductions for depreciation of fabricated assets or for depletion and...

www.macrotrends.net

That is why Iran has strongly endorsed Harris. I don't see that mentioned when the msm is babbling about the endorsements from war criminal Dick Cheney and a world-class private jet polluting pop star.

 

[Boiler Buck]

That is why Iran has strongly endorsed Harris. I don't see that mentioned when the msm is babbling about the endorsements from war criminal Dick Cheney and a world-class private jet polluting pop star.

You bet. Iran wants Harris big-time.

Couldn't believe Ol' Bob didn't know about the sanctions hitting Iran. Common knowledge.

But he is the poster child for Dem voters.....only informed by MSNBC, not well read and very emotional. I didn't know people could be that ignorant of issues. So glad he is here, demonstrating the type of person who votes Dem. Lol

 

[BCfanatic2020]

WTF are you talking about? I was referring to our military in the sense that we had a need to update much of our equipment. That's what I remember complaints about when it was claimed that other presidents were cutting funding.

You probably don’t know. Read more. Get away from the propaganda

Why is that a need? We have no real enemy who is a threat. It’s a racket. Please see Smedley Butler’s book.

 

[Riveting]

You bet. Iran wants Harris big-time.

Couldn't believe Ol' Bob didn't know about the sanctions hitting Iran. Common knowledge.

But he is the poster child for Dem voters.....only informed by MSNBC, not well read and very emotional. I didn't know people could be that ignorant of issues. So glad he is here, demonstrating the type of person who votes Dem. Lol

I think Bob knew about it. He just doesn't want to admit the proven and vast incompetence of the Biden admin he supports - and that Trump was a far better president.

 

[Riveting]

You bet. Iran wants Harris big-time.

Couldn't believe Ol' Bob didn't know about the sanctions hitting Iran. Common knowledge.

But he is the poster child for Dem voters.....only informed by MSNBC, not well read and very emotional. I didn't know people could be that ignorant of issues. So glad he is here, demonstrating the type of person who votes Dem. Lol

Don't overlook bni, 95 and katJM23. They are right down there with him.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

So much you have wrong.
I'll just start by saying that with Trump's sanctions on Iran, Trumps policy to have the EU rely on US oil and NG rather than Russian oil and NG and a strong military, THERE WAS PEACE in Europe and the Middle East.

How? You’re saying that we weren’t lied into a war in Iraq?

So you’re in favor of the destruction of the pipeline? You’re aware that costs of energy are way way up in Europe since then? Why should the average American care if US multinationals supply Europe with natural gas instead of Russia? Have you looked around at our crumbling society? Eisenhower spoke common sense on this.

Americans are the most propagandized people in the world but they don’t know they are.

 

[Boiler Buck]

I think Bob knew about it. He just doesn't want to admit the proven and vast incompetence of the Biden admin he supports - and that Trump was a far better president.

You give ol Bob way too much credit based on what he demonstrates here daily. lol.

On Iran....Biden has proven to be flat out dangerous.

He has put indirectly alot of cash/weapons in the hands of terrorists. K2 would be the same....and to me it is disqualifying because they both are just dangerous to the world. They indirectly caused chaos with Israel & their neighbors as a result of their weakness and cash they put in Iran's hands.

 

[Riveting]

How? You’re saying that we weren’t lied into a war in Iraq?

So you’re in favor of the destruction of the pipeline? You’re aware that costs of energy are way way up in Europe since then? Why should the average American care if US multinationals supply Europe with natural gas instead of Russia? Have you looked around at our crumbling society? Eisenhower spoke common sense on this.

Americans are the most propagandized people in the world but they don’t know they are.

Do you mean his warning about the mil-industrial complex, or something else?

I think you are not fully aware of CCP control of all media in China - and the same in many other police states. Americans have tons of propaganda coming at them from the government and big media/msm, but thankfully we also have access to other sources of info that are not controlled by same.

 

[BCfanatic2020]

Do you mean his warning about the mil-industrial complex, or something else?

I think you are not fully aware of CCP control of all media in China - and the same in many other police states. Americans have tons of propaganda coming at them from the government and big media/msm, but thankfully we also have access to other sources of info that are not controlled by same.

You bring up an interesting point. In the Soviet Union, they all knew Pravda was lying. Americans think the media here is telling them the truth. I rarely meet anyone willing to disbelieve both msnbc and fox.