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Fatherlessness - a plaugue on America

I agree with you. Yes we all got off the same ark. That is why I believe that the concept of the so called 3 races of people, white, black, and Asian is a racial construct developed by the white supremacists at the time. These same people also say and they to back it up by science that the so-calles race was more intelligent; had larger brains and what not. Modern anthropologists do not subscribe to the 3 race theory anymore. We all say white this, or black that but the bottom line is that there are no such thing as 3 races of people. We just have different cultures of people.
Agree. Those "scientists" were way off. Of course that is before my time, as that was years ago.
 
72%………it’s the dirty little secret in black America that black leadership isn’t willing to address. Its the No.1 problem in BA, and it’s not even close.
Democrats love it because it provides a nice pipeline of those dependent on government.
Oh, the Democrats have addressed this issue. Here's what's in the Build Back Better legislation:

Free universal preschool for all three and four year olds aka free babysitters.
Cash rewards of $300 every month per child under age six and $250 every month per child ages six to 17.
Four weeks of paid vacation whenever an unwed mother drops another one out of crotch.
More free babysitters under the euphemism of free "daycare".
 
Oh, the Democrats have addressed this issue. Here's what's in the Build Back Better legislation:

Free universal preschool for all three and four year olds aka free babysitters.
Cash rewards of $300 every month per child under age six and $250 every month per child ages six to 17.
Four weeks of paid vacation whenever an unwed mother drops another one out of crotch.
More free babysitters under the euphemism of free "daycare".
Typical Dem response: Throw money at the problem and hope is goes away.
But as usual, they don't understand about how to prevent the problem in the first place.

If you're going to pay someone to do something in this situation, I'd be in favor of paying people to go on implantable, long term birth control from about the age of 15 to 25. Just like with welfare or other govt assistance, people would have to qualify.
 
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I mean he did not lead against the problem of fatherlessness.....what this entire thread is about.

Given his quote above, he was very concerned about it....but did nothing to curb it. I mentioned 4 ways he could have led in this area above. There are far more than those 4. He did nothing.
Y'all like to criticize Obama. So what did President Chump do to cure this problem? I've said this over and over, it has to come from within the community. Outside intervention can only do so much. As much as I despise President Chump I'm not going to criticize him for not solving the single mother issue in the black community. All communities for that matter.
 
It's a prob in all poor communities.

Thats untrue. Its not nearly the same level problem across communities.

Marriage and freedom solves poverty. This is why our black community struggles, they are stuck on the democrat plantation
 
Thats untrue. Its not nearly the same level problem across communities.

Marriage and freedom solves poverty. This is why our black community struggles, they are stuck on the democrat plantation
Marriage and freedom solves poverty? WTF

While there is no one solution, education is the centerpiece of fixing poverty. Marriage? Lol
 
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Marriage and freedom solves poverty? WTF

While there is no one solution, education is the centerpiece of fixing poverty. Marriage? Lol

Yes it does. Education is not the solution to solving poverty, since marriage produces educated children, not schools. Schools are only effective in situations where there is responsibility and stability, and that comes from marriage.

You are such a fool Bob
 
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Yes it does. Education is not the solution to solving poverty, since marriage produces educated children, not schools. Schools are only effective in situations where there is responsibility and stability, and that comes from marriage.

You are such a fool Bob
Marriage produces educated children? Really?

You're making up shit to fit your argument........that is centered on black Americans.

So we might as well pull the kids who lived in divorced families out of school, they have no chance to be educated and succeed.

Before you call someone a fool you should think through your argument.
 
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Marriage produces educated children? Really?

You're making up shit to fit your argument........that is centered on black Americans.

So we might as well pull the kids who lived in divorced families out of school, they have no chance to be educated and succeed.

Before you call someone a fool you should think through your argument.


It is amazing how one can be as consistently wrong as you.

Divorce is awful for families and children. Single parenthood is awful for all involved. Marriage provides financial security, emotional stability, and work life efficiency due to the division of labor. It allows more time to be devoted to child rearing and keeps kids out of daycare facilities and affords them better educational opportunities.

Marriage is better for society than the alternative and this has been consistently proven in studies. Look at the condition of the black community pre 1964 and post 1964. The black family is demonstrably worse off now than they were during the segregation era due to the effects of perverse incentives instituted by the welfare state.

All of these things, stability, security, parent child togetherness creates the environment that leads to education and positive outcomes.

Sticking your kid in a school for 8 hours will not automatically result in an educated child, other factors are far more important.
 
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Marriage produces educated children? Really?

You're making up shit to fit your argument........that is centered on black Americans.

So we might as well pull the kids who lived in divorced families out of school, they have no chance to be educated and succeed.

Before you call someone a fool you should think through your argument.
A reply to anything you say is enough thinking for any argument
 
That is grossly untrue that black leadership won't tackle. About this topic, black leaders have marched, set up after school programs, church programs, basketball leagues, mentoring programs, etc. Some worked to some extent. However, outside involvement can only do so much. Therefore, just like any intervention program only those that want to be helped will be helped. The only way this problem can be addressed is that they have to help themselves. It will take generations but folks in those communities have to say to themselves that it time to break the cycle.
This is one post where I will agree with you. And quite frankly, I know it takes two to tango. But I put a lot of blame on black women who continue to allow themselves to be taken advantage of and abandoned by black men who don't take any moral or financial responsibility.

Make a mistake and have a child out of wedlock? OK, I can have empathy and even sympathy for that. It can happen to anyone. Have more than one child out of wedlock by different fathers? I have no empathy or sympathy. And that's the problem that's happening over and over again. And why the cycle of poverty continues.
 
Marriage and freedom solves poverty? WTF

While there is no one solution, education is the centerpiece of fixing poverty. Marriage? Lol
Education is not even close to being the centerpiece of fixing poverty. Not having multiple children by multiple fathers is the first way to fix poverty. The black community continuing to have a fatherless rate of over 2/3 of all children is the biggest issue holding it back. It's single mothers trying to raise those children without any support that causes poverty...
 
Education is not even close to being the centerpiece of fixing poverty. Not having multiple children by multiple fathers is the first way to fix poverty. The black community continuing to have a fatherless rate of over 2/3 of all children is the biggest issue holding it back. It's single mothers trying to raise those children without any support that causes poverty...
Bob seems to think black people don't understand how pregnancy happens.
 
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Y'all like to criticize Obama. So what did President Chump do to cure this problem? I've said this over and over, it has to come from within the community. Outside intervention can only do so much. As much as I despise President Chump I'm not going to criticize him for not solving the single mother issue in the black community. All communities for that matter.

The most important way of curbing fatherlessness through eliminating alot of Govt programs and crafting tax legislation.....many of which incentivize fatherlessness, and are anti 2 parent families.

I only said Obama was a disappointment on fatherlessness....
....as he himself said it was an important issue to him. And did nothing. Obama"s problem on the issue you see, was that Dems buy votes with giveaways, and curbing fatherlessness would take cuts to those giveaways in that vote buying. He was not about to do that.

Trump made no such claim..... although he did claim he was the greatest ever on about everything else...which most of the time was an exaggeration if not a lie. LOL.
 
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Y'all like to criticize Obama. So what did President Chump do to cure this problem? I've said this over and over, it has to come from within the community. Outside intervention can only do so much. As much as I despise President Chump I'm not going to criticize him for not solving the single mother issue in the black community. All communities for that matter.
I'd rather not criticize Obama. But he did little for me to compliment him about. Like Biden, he was ill equipped to be President of the USA. Or The Gambia.
 
HEY BNI....one question. What do you think of the idea of mandatory sterilization of any...ANY...female who has three out of wedlock children? White? Black? Hispanic? Asian? With a 4th cancelling all her government subsidies.
 
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HEY BNI....one question. What do you think of the idea of mandatory sterilization of any...ANY...female who has three out of wedlock children? White? Black? Hispanic? Asian? With a 4th cancelling all her government subsidies.

How about voluntary sterilization after 1 out of wedlock birth.

With the caviot ALL state and fed Gov't benefits cut off if they have a second.....as strong motivation.
 
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How about voluntary sterilization after 1 out of wedlock birth.

With the caviot ALL state and fed Gov't benefits cut off if they have a second.....as strong motivation.

The problem with heavy handedness is they will turn it into a political weapon.

The age of good faith is over. The Democrats are the enemies of civilization.
 
How about voluntary sterilization after 1 out of wedlock birth.

With the caviot ALL state and fed Gov't benefits cut off if they have a second.....as strong motivation.
If they're on any type of govt assistance I agree with paying them for sterilization and if they refuse, they lose govt benefits like welfare, snap, wnc, etc.
 
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HEY BNI....one question. What do you think of the idea of mandatory sterilization of any...ANY...female who has three out of wedlock children? White? Black? Hispanic? Asian? With a 4th cancelling all her government subsidies.

No, out of wedlock births are far better than no births at all.

Frankly we need more births, they just need to come from responsible people instead of the opposite.
 
Find me a video clip from CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC where a black person, or hell, any liberal person, in a leadership role, states that this is a major problem in the black community that needs to be addressed and then formulates a plan to address it.
It's not an education problem you can throw money at in the school system in the hopes it'll go away. It's a cultural problem.
Obama said this and believe it or not one of the best speeches I heard on this was from Jessie Jackson. Might be hard to find because it was over 20 years ago but I can verify I saw it with my own eyes. By the way I didn’t vote for either of them but give them credit
 
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"Since 1970, out-of-wedlock birth rates have soared. In 1965, 24 percent of black infants and 3.1 percent of white infants were born to single mothers. By 1990 the rates had risen to 64 percent for black infants, 18 percent for whites."

Statistics are such bitches
I have personally seen bad impact of this in some of my relatives who’s white or biracial
 
HEY BNI....one question. What do you think of the idea of mandatory sterilization of any...ANY...female who has three out of wedlock children? White? Black? Hispanic? Asian? With a 4th cancelling all her government subsidies.
NO!!!! What about sterilizing Wall Street execs for getting bail out money. What about sterilizing farmers when getting subsidy money? etc. etc. You repubs are all for govt intervention when it comes to abortion and sterilizing folks.
 
This is one post where I will agree with you. And quite frankly, I know it takes two to tango. But I put a lot of blame on black women who continue to allow themselves to be taken advantage of and abandoned by black men who don't take any moral or financial responsibility.

Make a mistake and have a child out of wedlock? OK, I can have empathy and even sympathy for that. It can happen to anyone. Have more than one child out of wedlock by different fathers? I have no empathy or sympathy. And that's the problem that's happening over and over again. And why the cycle of poverty continues.
One correction. The women may be abandoned, for which they share the blame in a lot of cases, but they are not taken advantage of.
 
One correction. The women may be abandoned, for which they share the blame in a lot of cases, but they are not taken advantage of.

Of course they are taken advantage of.

You obviously do not understand the depth of the problem.

The Democrat Party is taking advantage of these women, as are the men who take no responsibility for their offspring.

The women have been conditioned to accept it, which is another sin
 
"Since 1970, out-of-wedlock birth rates have soared. In 1965, 24 percent of black infants and 3.1 percent of white infants were born to single mothers. By 1990 the rates had risen to 64 percent for black infants, 18 percent for whites."

Statistics are such bitches
It is quite likely the U.S. as a nation is in decline. There are many reasons for this. This one ranks near the top.
 
NO!!!! What about sterilizing Wall Street execs for getting bail out money. What about sterilizing farmers when getting subsidy money? etc. etc. You repubs are all for govt intervention when it comes to abortion and sterilizing folks.

I believe at least 2 Rs mentioned VOLUNTARY sterilization. Rs usually want to shut off Govt freebies to all including definitely unwed parents.

As far as the rest of your points....
True RS are for less govt....for example I am against:
1. Govt bail outs
2. Farmer subsidies
3. All government expenses, save the SS and Medicare $ they stole from me.

I am a bit different as an R as I am even for lower military expenses.

Abortion = murder; All Christians should be against that....wether R or D such as we discussed before.
 
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Of course they are taken advantage of.

You obviously do not understand the depth of the problem.

The Democrat Party is taking advantage of these women, as are the men who take no responsibility for their offspring.

The women have been conditioned to accept it, which is another sin
These unions are consensual. And since they are consensual, the women are not being taken advantage of by the men.

Man, I grew up and went to school with kids from single mothers, I know more about the situation more than you do. know that you have not even dealt with any of these folks let alone engage or grew up with people in these situations.

Just because the democratic party support public aid for poor people, the single mothers are not taken advantage of. For the most part these young women don't even vote or even participate in the election process at any level.

The women are not conditioned. A lot of these women have low self esteem. Their mothers are single mothers themselves in a lot of cases and some may have a drug problem on top of all this.
 
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These unions are consensual. And since they are consensual, the women are not being taken advantage of by the men.

Man, I grew up and went to school with kids from single mothers, I know more about the situation more than you do. know that you have not even dealt with any of these folks let alone engage or grew up with people in these situations.

Just because the democratic party support public aid for poor people, they single mothers are not taken advantage of. For the most part these young women don't even vote or even participate in the election process at any level.

The women are not conditioned. A lot of these women have low self esteem. Their mothers are single mothers themselves in a lot of cases and some may have a drug problem on top of all this.
Spoken like a true example of the problem. If you really think the women are just as much to blame, and they share some just shows you blame everyone else, call them a Gumbo, Sambo, Uncle Tom, Chump anything but the reality. Black men impregnate women at a much higher rate than any other group and take no responsibility at a much higher rate as well.the joke is you are the real Chump in all your racist blitherings. Face it it's black culture.
 
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Spoken like a true example of the problem. If you really think the women are just as much to blame, and they share some just shows you blame everyone else, call them a Gumbo, Sambo, Uncle Tom, Chump anything but the reality. Black men impregnate women at a much higher rate than any other group and take no responsibility at a much higher rate as well.the joke is you are the real Chump in all your racist blitherings. Face it it's black culture.
Have you ever lived within 5 to 10 miles of a black neighborhood? Other than driving through, have you ever spent any time in a black neighborhood? When was the last one you had a person in your home for dinner? When was the last time you had dinner over a person's house? You and most others in this forum are very naive to the culture of black America. The women are as much the fault as the men if not more. You think the men are sneaking into the homes and apartments of these women at night and impregnating these women while they are sleeping? Come on man. You need to get out sometime.
 
Spoken like a true example of the problem. If you really think the women are just as much to blame, and they share some just shows you blame everyone else, call them a Gumbo, Sambo, Uncle Tom, Chump anything but the reality. Black men impregnate women at a much higher rate than any other group and take no responsibility at a much higher rate as well.the joke is you are the real Chump in all your racist blitherings. Face it it's black culture.

@BNIBoiler is the ultimate CHUMP
 
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Have you ever lived within 5 to 10 miles of a black neighborhood? Other than driving through, have you ever spent any time in a black neighborhood? When was the last one you had a person in your home for dinner? When was the last time you had dinner over a person's house? You and most others in this forum are very naive to the culture of black America. The women are as much the fault as the men if not more. You think the men are sneaking into the homes and apartments of these women at night and impregnating these women while they are sleeping? Come on man. You need to get out sometime.

Blah ****ing blah

I went to a HS that was 75% black. I know all about black culture.
 
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