ESPN (less) Early Top 25 - No Purdue

[SqueakyClean]

Lunardi has his latest Bracketology up also with Purdue as an 8. Kinda implies that ESPN thinks that Purdue is in the 25 to 35 range for ranking.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...tar-heels-lead-no-longer-way-too-early-top-25

 

[toddbrewster]

Great article for us. Now is the time to start laying down some bets. Easy money to bet we will finish in top 25 and an even better bet that we finish in the top 4 in the Big 10.

 

[blockm2]

Great article for us. Now is the time to start laying down some bets. Easy money to bet we will finish in top 25 and an even better bet that we finish in the top 4 in the Big 10.

I'd say it's far more likely Purdue finishes in the top 25 than the top 4 in the Big Ten. 4th in the Big Ten might end up being around 12th or 15th overall nationally. There are at least 7 schools that should be top 25 for most of the year in the conference and potentially 3 or 4 could be top 10 depending on how the OOC games shake out.

Big Ten is tough this year. Purdue obviously has a quality roster, but finishing top 25 is much easier than 4th in the conference this season.

 

[njm8845]

I like articles like this, as they should add fuel to the current team. But what on earth is this guy thinking? Purdue was an 8 seed last year, so that means we were just outside the top 25. If we would have won a couple more OOC games that we should have won, then Purdue definitely would have been at least sniffing at it.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here but how does adding another good player and a year of experience to this roster not equate to a top 25 team? A good comparison is IU. Purdue was better than them last year. We each add a big. How are they 14 and we're NR?

Will Painter use this as extra motivation? Or is it stupid to even talk to the team about?

 

[boilerzz]

Because Eamon Brennan wrote the article. Care to guess what school the diploma on his wall says?

 

[njm8845]

I don't know - he surprisingly doesn't have a wiki page.

 

[boilerzz]

https://www.linkedin.com/in/eamonnb

 

[*4purdue*]

I'd say it's far more likely Purdue finishes in the top 25 than the top 4 in the Big Ten. 4th in the Big Ten might end up being around 12th or 15th overall nationally. There are at least 7 schools that should be top 25 for most of the year in the conference and potentially 3 or 4 could be top 10 depending on how the OOC games shake out.

Big Ten is tough this year. Purdue obviously has a quality roster, but finishing top 25 is much easier than 4th in the conference this season.

We finished 4th last year. If we don't finish top 3 in the B1G, this season will have be a let down.

 

[mathboy]

I'd say it's far more likely Purdue finishes in the top 25 than the top 4 in the Big Ten. 4th in the Big Ten might end up being around 12th or 15th overall nationally. There are at least 7 schools that should be top 25 for most of the year in the conference and potentially 3 or 4 could be top 10 depending on how the OOC games shake out.

Big Ten is tough this year. Purdue obviously has a quality roster, but finishing top 25 is much easier than 4th in the conference this season.

Being 4th or worse in the BIG ansd still being in the top 25 nationally would be a real trick. That said, if it comes to pass, that says the BIG is pretty darned good.

 

[FiveWeight]

Being 4th or worse in the BIG ansd still being in the top 25 nationally would be a real trick. That said, if it comes to pass, that says the BIG is pretty darned good.

I'm not sure what the record is, but there have been several times in recent years when I've noticed the BIG had 6-7 teams ranked at the same time. Sometimes even mid-pack BIG teams are national powers. Just doesn't seem like it in conference play.

 

[BoilerDeac]

Haha this list is laughable. I usually like Brennan's stuff, but this is pathetic; do your homework. I don't care if he graduated from IU or not...IU as a preseason #14 and Purdue unranked is absolutely laughable.

 

[sixpackpete]

Haha this list is laughable. I usually like Brennan's stuff, but this is pathetic; do your homework. I don't care if he graduated from IU or not...IU as a preseason #14 and Purdue unranked is absolutely laughable.

Is Brennan our SNU???

 

[toddbrewster]

Big Ten is tough this year. Purdue obviously has a quality roster, but finishing top 25 is much easier than 4th in the conference this season.[/QUOTE]

OK, I will bite. I will be happy to bet $100 with anyone (whose real name I can verify) that Purdue will finish ahead of Maryland, Indiana, Michigan State or Wisconsin.

 

[cprh9u]

Big Ten is tough this year. Purdue obviously has a quality roster, but finishing top 25 is much easier than 4th in the conference this season.

OK, I will bite. I will be happy to bet $100 with anyone (whose real name I can verify) that Purdue will finish ahead of Maryland, Indiana, Michigan State or Wisconsin.[/QUOTE]

What? Is this an or statement or can I pick any team? I will bet you 10k that Purdue doesn't finish ahead of Maryland. Seriously, I will meet you and sign a contract. Wisky, MSU, IU, nah, but Maryland? I would love to make 10k that easily.

 

[boilerzz]

OK, I will bite. I will be happy to bet $100 with anyone (whose real name I can verify) that Purdue will finish ahead of Maryland, Indiana, Michigan State or Wisconsin.

What? Is this an or statement or can I pick any team? I will bet you 10k that Purdue doesn't finish ahead of Maryland. Seriously, I will meet you and sign a contract. Wisky, MSU, IU, nah, but Maryland? I would love to make 10k that easily.[/QUOTE]
You're not reading it right.

 

[cprh9u]

What? Is this an or statement or can I pick any team? I will bet you 10k that Purdue doesn't finish ahead of Maryland. Seriously, I will meet you and sign a contract. Wisky, MSU, IU, nah, but Maryland? I would love to make 10k that easily.

You're not reading it right.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, no way I would bet Purdue against any of those team. I think Purdue is a top 3 team. But Maryland is clearly the class of the B1G in 2015-2016

 

[PaBoiler78]

we should definitely be in a Top 25 discussion of any sort, looking forward to the season.

 

[ghostoffatjack]

What else would you expect from an Indiana Grad!

 

[Frankie611]

Disney stock tanked 10% today on concerns about the sustainability of espn in the future media market.
I am torn on Brennan. He is obviously the worst, most biased writer they have. However he did fabricate a preseason poll with them as #1 that lead to a pretty comical letdown later in the year. Keep sleeping with that picture of Cody Zeller, loser.

 

[toddbrewster]

You're not reading it right.

Yeah, no way I would bet Purdue against any of those team. I think Purdue is a top 3 team. But Maryland is clearly the class of the B1G in 2015-2016[/QUOTE]

If you believe Purdue will be a top 3 team in the Big 10 that means we will finish ahead of Maryland, Indiana, Michigan State or Wisconsin.

BTW, I think we will give Maryland a run for its money.

 

[Ryneforpresident]

Um if we finished ahead of only one of those teams we would finish 4th. But I agree with you Purdue will be near the top.

 

[Cleanface]

That is completely laughable.

Weren't we ranked in some ((((way too early)))) polls based solely on who we had returning?? Even before Jumpin' Johnny transferred, and Swanigan committed??

Whatevs. Really looking fwd to CFBall, but BBall can't get here fast enough.


edit; and yes, I am a 38 y/o with two kids who just used the word "whatevs".

ESPN be cray-cray.

 

[BigRed3588]

Even with Brennan's IU bias, I'm surprised he snubbed you guys on this list. I expect Purdue to be top 25 easily. I'm think/hope the showdown in Bloomington will be between two top 15 teams.

 

[SnowLeopard]

This is great news. Purdue bball teams have often been best when underrated.

Speaking personally, the most enjoyable moments of my life were when I was completely written off, and I come out of nowhere to kill it. Its the combination of sweet success and looks of disbelief from everyone 'in the know'.

Starting and finishing the season as No. 1 is fine but I find expected success boring.

Much more fun to be written off at preseason, and then kill it. Make Maryland shit their pants. Sure, Maryland is preseason No 1 & the only BIG team that has separated itself from the pack, but I rather aim for Maryland than yet another overrated IU team. There's little fun and novelty in unranked Purdue making preseason No. 14 IU shit its candy stripes pants.

Unranked Purdue causing preseason favorites IU to shit their pants is the main reason why laundromats are thriving in IU. And why they have built the world's largest septic tank under Bloomington (it's a fact, check Encyclopedia Creannica)

Those stripes ain't candy, bro.

Its never how you start, but how you finish

Go Boilers

 

[toddbrewster]

Ryne thank you for correcting me, but you should read all my posts on this blog. If you did, you will see that I was gently correcting a poster who did not understand the word "or".

I do think Purdue will finish first in the Big 10, but I would only bet where I will get odds. Hopefully from a rabbid Maryland fan. However, as stated, I would gladly bet Purdue finishes ahead of Maryland, Wisconsin, Michigan State OR Indiana.

 

[TopSecretBoiler]

If ole dumb butt Brennan wants to bet, I'll put a grand on Purdue finishing 4th or better. Must be nice to be a shitty writer and get to make up whatever bs you want and never have to be accountable for it. perfect hoosier...

 

[cprh9u]

Yeah, no way I would bet Purdue against any of those team. I think Purdue is a top 3 team. But Maryland is clearly the class of the B1G in 2015-2016

If you believe Purdue will be a top 3 team in the Big 10 that means we will finish ahead of Maryland, Indiana, Michigan State or Wisconsin.

BTW, I think we will give Maryland a run for its money.[/QUOTE]

I wasn't clear... I was saying I would bet Purdue will NOT finish ahead of Maryland as I think they are the class of the league. However, I think Purdue is a top 3 team and will finish ahead of IU, Wisky and maybe MSU. If I had to guess I would say UM, MSU, PU. We could be 2nd or we could be 4th but I would be very surprised if Maryland doesn't take the league this year based on their talent.

 

[BoilerinLouisville]

If you believe Purdue will be a top 3 team in the Big 10 that means we will finish ahead of Maryland, Indiana, Michigan State or Wisconsin.

BTW, I think we will give Maryland a run for its money.

I wasn't clear... I was saying I would bet Purdue will NOT finish ahead of Maryland as I think they are the class of the league. However, I think Purdue is a top 3 team and will finish ahead of IU, Wisky and maybe MSU. If I had to guess I would say UM, MSU, PU. We could be 2nd or we could be 4th but I would be very surprised if Maryland doesn't take the league this year based on their talent.[/QUOT]

Purdue will finish higher in the national rankings and Conference than IU this year, even with extremely favorable conference schedule. Bank it

 

[bsmitty08]

PU's last year had it easy in BIG play. This year IU does

 

[proudopete]

PU's last year had it easy in BIG play. This year IU does

A whole lot of good that should do you. Your last half of the schedule was the easy part last season and you almost lost every single game.

 

[boilerzz]

PU's last year had it easy in BIG play. This year IU does

I see people trying to say that but the numbers don't bear it out. Purdue's conference SOS was 31, which was middle of the pack in the B1G. IU"s was slightly better at 24.

 

[mathboy]

I see people trying to say that but the numbers don't bear it out. Purdue's conference SOS was 31, which was middle of the pack in the B1G. IU"s was slightly better at 24.

The other side of this coin is that both Maryland and WIsconsin benefitted from not playing Purdue at Purdue. Their schedule allowed them to avoid possible losses in West Laf.

If you watched the games and do not look simply at the final score, most would have said we matched up to Wisconsin fairly well for 1.5 games. Ouor shooting broke in the second half of the BTT game, and we went down hard. Of course it is pure speculation, but we usually shoot pretty well at home. Maybe the outcome would have been different if Whisky had a home and away series with Purdue.

 

[boilerzz]

Correction - Maryland played at Purdue. We didn't visit Maryland.

 

[toddbrewster]

If you believe Purdue will be a top 3 team in the Big 10 that means we will finish ahead of Maryland, Indiana, Michigan State or Wisconsin.

I wasn't clear... I was saying I would bet Purdue will NOT finish ahead of Maryland as I think they are the class of the league. However, I think Purdue is a top 3 team and will finish ahead of IU, Wisky and maybe MSU. If I had to guess I would say UM, MSU, PU. We could be 2nd or we could be 4th but I would be very surprised if Maryland doesn't take the league this year based on their talent.

I understood you perfectly. This is what I had written and what you responded:

"OK, I will bite. I will be happy to bet $100 with anyone (whose real name I can verify) that Purdue will finish ahead of Maryland, Indiana, Michigan State or Wisconsin."

Your response:

"What? Is this an or statement or can I pick any team?"

Got it? Do you now understand Ryne?

 

[Da_Bull]

I see people trying to say that but the numbers don't bear it out. Purdue's conference SOS was 31, which was middle of the pack in the B1G. IU"s was slightly better at 24.

I see that number but PU still only played the top 3, 3 times, we played the top 3 5 times. We were 2-8 against the top half, 7-1 against the bottom half, PU was 4-4 against the top half, 8-2 against the bottom.

 

[SIBoiler2]

I see that number but PU still only played the top 3, 3 times, we played the top 3 5 times. We were 2-8 against the top half, 7-1 against the bottom half, PU was 4-4 against the top half, 8-2 against the bottom.

So against the bottom half you were 7-1 and we were 8-2. Pretty much a wash. Against the top you were 2-8 and we were 4-4. So you played them 2 more times than we did and we still won twice as many as you. Doesn't seem to favor your argument too well when you look at it that way.

 

[twenty02]

With so many teams and unbalanced schedules, where teams finish is kind of stupid. If we played a full round robin like back in the old days, it would actually be meaningful.
Purdue had the easier schedule last year, IU does this year.

 

[boilerzz]

I see that number but PU still only played the top 3, 3 times, we played the top 3 5 times. We were 2-8 against the top half, 7-1 against the bottom half, PU was 4-4 against the top half, 8-2 against the bottom.

Yes, but were the teams in the top half better than those in the bottom half or did they finish in the top half because they had an easier schedule?

 

[Da_Bull]

So against the bottom half you were 7-1 and we were 8-2. Pretty much a wash. Against the top you were 2-8 and we were 4-4. So you played them 2 more times than we did and we still won twice as many as you. Doesn't seem to favor your argument too well when you look at it that way.

What? I just posted the numbers as something to look at and compare. The 2 less games vs the top 3 was the main difference. Your 4 wins against the top half were against x2 against 7th place IU, 1 against 6th place OSU, and 1 against 5th place iowa. I'm not trying to say the schedule is the only reason you guys finished 4th, it helped, but its not the only reason. As the conference keeps adding teams, the conference schedule will be more and more crucial to the finishing standings.

 

[mathboy]

Correction - Maryland played at Purdue. We didn't visit Maryland.

Thanks.