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someone (possibly his agent) is lying to UofL causing their admin/fans to think that Jeff is going there. Jeff hasn't ducked one media question about the issue and has told his players and recruits the same - that he's staying. He doesn't have to tell his current players and recruits anything but he's going out of his way to tell them he's staying. Why do this and lose credibility with players (possible transfers) and recruits? Either Jeff is playing the UofL opening to get more exposure for recruiting purposes and possibly more $ for himself and assistants at Purdue...or he is lying to EVERYONE. Jeff stresses honesty ALL OF THE TIME so I have a hard time believing he's now turned into a pathological liar.
 
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someone (possibly his agent) is lying to UofL causing their admin/fans to think that Jeff is going there. Jeff hasn't ducked one media question about the issue and has told his players and recruits the same - that he's staying. He doesn't have to tell his current players and recruits anything but he's going out of his way to tell them he's staying. Why do this and lose credibility with players (possible transfers) and recruits? Either Jeff is playing the UofL opening to get more $ for himself and assistants at Purdue and to keep his name in the news for recruiting purposes...or he is lying to everyone. Jeff stresses honesty ALL OF THE TIME so I have a hard time believing he's now turned into a pathological liar.
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A few things.

One, what their 'fans' think is irrelevant. From day one they've been crowing ("he gone") without any reasons or evidence. (Oh... other than, he's a UofL grad.)

Two, let's stop with the "to get more $" angle. He's never, ever, indicated he's in this for an additional dollar.

Three, all indications are, there is nothing going on between Brohm and UofL. (Or, his agent, other than maybe picking up the phone when it rang.)

A week ago (or so), I saw it posted on this forum about what great publicity this is for the program. And, it is. Recruits (2020, and beyond) are watching. Brohm is a hot commodity right now. As long as he continues to build this program, he's going to be mentioned as other programs can their coaches.
 
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hunkgolden said:
someone (possibly his agent) is lying to UofL causing their admin/fans to think that Jeff is going there. Jeff hasn't ducked one media question about the issue and has told his players and recruits the same - that he's staying. He doesn't have to tell his current players and recruits anything but he's going out of his way to tell them he's staying. Why do this and lose credibility with players (possible transfers) and recruits? Either Jeff is playing the UofL opening to get more exposure for recruiting purposes and possibly more $ for himself and assistants at Purdue...or he is lying to EVERYONE. Jeff stresses honesty ALL OF THE TIME so I have a hard time believing he's now turned into a pathological liar.
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At no time has Jeff said he is staying. He said he likes being there (hint: he’s deflecting) and other stuff like that, but if he were staying he would definitively say so.
 
Did he ever come out and definitively say "I'm staying"? I don't know that's the case. I will say though one hell of a hire for your program.
 
Knights2715 said:
I don't think anyone is necessarily telling people within Louisville. I think it's speculation being passed off as fact.
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Nope. If you lived in Louisville, you would know a lot of people who personally know the Brohms. It is no secret that they are truly invested in the city.

I’m not saying that it’s a done deal, but you guys should definitely brace yourselves.
 
hunkgolden said:
someone (possibly his agent) is lying to UofL causing their admin/fans to think that Jeff is going there. Jeff hasn't ducked one media question about the issue and has told his players and recruits the same - that he's staying. He doesn't have to tell his current players and recruits anything but he's going out of his way to tell them he's staying. Why do this and lose credibility with players (possible transfers) and recruits? Either Jeff is playing the UofL opening to get more exposure for recruiting purposes and possibly more $ for himself and assistants at Purdue...or he is lying to EVERYONE. Jeff stresses honesty ALL OF THE TIME so I have a hard time believing he's now turned into a pathological liar.
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Can you link his public statement where he says he's not a candidate for the UofL job, that he wouldn't accept it if offered, and that he's absolutely returning to Purdue?
 
Ville101 said:
Nope. If you lived in Louisville, you would know a lot of people who personally know the Brohms. It is no secret that they are truly invested in the city.

I’m not saying that it’s a done deal, but you guys should definitely brace yourselves.
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I don't doubt that he's invested in the city. But I don't believe anyone in the public has any actual information on the matter yet, and I mean on either the Purdue or Louisville side.
 
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Nope. If you lived in Louisville, you would know a lot of people who personally know the Brohms. It is no secret that they are truly invested in the city.

I’m not saying that it’s a done deal, but you guys should definitely brace yourselves.
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Dude, there's nothing but trash-talking crap coming from you @sses.

Talk about needing to brace yourselves, you're going to need massive meds if he says "no," or if your "school" is so d@mn broke you can't/won't afford him.
 
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someone (possibly his agent) is lying to UofL causing their admin/fans to think that Jeff is going there. Jeff hasn't ducked one media question about the issue and has told his players and recruits the same - that he's staying. He doesn't have to tell his current players and recruits anything but he's going out of his way to tell them he's staying. Why do this and lose credibility with players (possible transfers) and recruits? Either Jeff is playing the UofL opening to get more exposure for recruiting purposes and possibly more $ for himself and assistants at Purdue...or he is lying to EVERYONE. Jeff stresses honesty ALL OF THE TIME so I have a hard time believing he's now turned into a pathological liar.
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Serious question...HAS Coach Brohm actually told anyone (YOU stated players and recruits) he IS staying? Has either players or recruits stated Coach Brohm has told them he WOULD be their coach next season? If so, do you have links to those statements? If he HAS told either players or recruits he WILL be at Purdue next season, then I (as a UofL fan) would strongly believe he will be at Purdue, not UofL, next season. I trust him to be an honest and honorable man. But if he has not done so, and you are just speculating on what he has told them based on their comments and reactions, then I believe you are simply unfairly setting Coach Brohm up to be called a liar if he does decide to come to Louisville...and that would be a shame for Coach Brohm. From what I've read, Coach Brohm has been judiciously non-committal in his comments. To my knowledge, he has neither said he IS staying at Purdue, NOR that he is NOT going to Louisville. In other words, I don't THINK he has said anything that will make him a "liar" if he chooses to come to Louisville. FTR, I have zero sources, zero inside info, and don't have a clue as to what he will do, nor have I even predicted what I think he will do. He is wisely not making any leading comments as to his intentions, other than carrying on as the current Purdue coach, as he should. TIA for the links.
 
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Serious question...HAS Coach Brohm actually told anyone (YOU stated players and recruits) he IS staying? Has either players or recruits stated Coach Brohm has told them he WOULD be their coach next season? If so, do you have links to those statements? If he HAS told either players or recruits he WILL be at Purdue next season, then I (as a UofL fan) would strongly believe he will be at Purdue, not UofL, next season. I trust him to be an honest and honorable man. But if he has not done so, and you are just speculating on what he has told them based on their comments and reactions, then I believe you are simply unfairly setting Coach Brohm up to be called a liar if he does decide to come to Louisville...and that would be a shame for Coach Brohm. From what I've read, Coach Brohm has been judiciously non-committal in his comments. To my knowledge, he has neither said he IS staying at Purdue, NOR that he is NOT going to Louisville. In other words, I don't THINK he has said anything that will make him a "liar" if he chooses to come to Louisville. FTR, I have zero sources, zero inside info, and don't have a clue as to what he will do, nor have I even predicted what I think he will do. He is wisely not making any leading comments as to his intentions, other than carrying on as the current Purdue coach, as he should. TIA for the links.
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Serious question . . . is there ANY reason OTHER than he's a UofL grad from the area, ANY reasons that he would WANT to take the job??

Any?

Numerous Purdue posters have listed the overwhelming reasons for him to stay at Purdue (still doesn't mean anything, he'll do what he does), but is there anything that would take him to UofL? ANYTHING?

The athletic program has been a dumpster fire, the university's finances are in a MASSIVE hole, there's likely been unbelievable mis-management (maybe worse) with the UofL foundation, . . . . what possible reasons could you offer he would WANT to go?
 
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Purdue85 said:
Serious question . . . is there ANY reason OTHER than he's a UofL grad from the area, ANY reasons that he would WANT to take the job??

Any?

Numerous Purdue posters have listed the overwhelming reasons for him to stay at Purdue (still doesn't mean anything, he'll do what he does), but is there anything that would take him to UofL? ANYTHING?

The athletic program has been a dumpster fire, the university's finances are in a MASSIVE hole, there's likely been unbelievable mis-management (maybe worse) with the UofL foundation, . . . . what possible reasons could you offer he would WANT to go?
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Of course. It's his alma mater. He played there. He's from there. He has a deep attachment and loyalty to the place.

If Purdue was in the midst of difficult times and they asked an up and coming alum to come home and help right the ship, how would you feel if that person said "no, there are too many problems there and I really have it good where I am. I'm an alum and all, but I really don't want to dirty my hands trying to help them get things cleaned up. That's Purdue's problem, not mine!"

If the scenario was reversed, I think your thoughts regarding it would be far more logical and reasoned.
 
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Of course. It's his alma mater. He played there. He's from there. He has a deep attachment and loyalty to the place.

If Purdue was in the midst of difficult times and they asked an up and coming alum to come home and help right the ship, how would you feel if that person said "no, there are too many problems there and I really have it good where I am. I'm an alum and all, but I really don't want to dirty my hands trying to help them get things cleaned up. That's Purdue's problem, not mine!"

If the scenario was reversed, I think your thoughts regarding it would be far more logical and reasoned.
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My question was, "is there ANY reason OTHER than he's a UofL grad from the area, ANY reasons that he would WANT to take the job?"

Your answer appears to be, "no."
 
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Again, Jeff doesn't strike me as the type to be able to pull this statement off (made just yesterday) unless he was going to be the coach at Purdue next year. Again, why even touch this topic and go this in depth in your response if you're going to be the coach at UofL?

"I compare it to the Olympics. When guys and gals go over and represent the U.S.A., it means something to them but also the whole country. If you take a lot of pride in playing in the state of Indiana, there's no reason to take your talents to another state," Brohm said. "Come to Purdue and we'll make sure you achieve all your goals and have a lot of fun doing it with all your people involved and to me, that's how you build a special team."

And this,
"We feel like we've developed a great relationship with (the committed prospects) and they trust us, but you take nothing for granted and as good a position as you think you're in, you can either maintain it or improve it," Brohm said.

https://purdue.rivals.com/news/jeff-brohm-still-talking-about-future-of-the-purdue-program
 
Purdue85 said:
Serious question . . . is there ANY reason OTHER than he's a UofL grad from the area, ANY reasons that he would WANT to take the job??

Any?

Numerous Purdue posters have listed the overwhelming reasons for him to stay at Purdue (still doesn't mean anything, he'll do what he does), but is there anything that would take him to UofL? ANYTHING?

The athletic program has been a dumpster fire, the university's finances are in a MASSIVE hole, there's likely been unbelievable mis-management (maybe worse) with the UofL foundation, . . . . what possible reasons could you offer he would WANT to go?
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I'm not here to debate or even discuss reasons; that's more of a home board type discussion between home board fans. I'm here asking if Coach Brohm has actually made confirmable statements (as the OP stated) that he will be at Purdue next year, and not taking the UofL job; simple as that.
 
Steelers2012 said:
I'm not here to debate or even discuss reasons; that's more of a home board type discussion between home board fans. I'm here asking if Coach Brohm has actually made confirmable statements (as the OP stated) that he will be at Purdue next year, and not taking the UofL job; simple as that.
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publicly? no. Privately? Sounds like it but that's up for interpretation.
 
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My question was, "is there ANY reason OTHER than he's a UofL grad from the area, ANY reasons that he would WANT to take the job?"

Your answer appears to be, "no."
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Again, of course. Outstanding facilities. A top notch stadium that will be renovated / expanded soon. A city and school that's easy to recruit to. A university with a consistent and long standing commitment to sports and, specifically, football. These are all well know attributes that you apparently cannot or will not acknowledge, for obvious reasons.
 
hunkgolden said:
Again, Jeff doesn't strike me as the type to be able to pull this statement off (made just yesterday) unless he was going to be the coach at Purdue next year. Again, why even touch this topic and go this in depth in your response if you're going to be the coach at UofL?

"I compare it to the Olympics. When guys and gals go over and represent the U.S.A., it means something to them but also the whole country. If you take a lot of pride in playing in the state of Indiana, there's no reason to take your talents to another state," Brohm said. "Come to Purdue and we'll make sure you achieve all your goals and have a lot of fun doing it with all your people involved and to me, that's how you build a special team."

And this,
"We feel like we've developed a great relationship with (the committed prospects) and they trust us, but you take nothing for granted and as good a position as you think you're in, you can either maintain it or improve it," Brohm said.

https://purdue.rivals.com/news/jeff-brohm-still-talking-about-future-of-the-purdue-program
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Where is the part when he says he's not interested in any other job, including UofL, that he wouldn't accept it if offered, and that he's not leaving Purdue?
 
jbromance said:
Again, of course. Outstanding facilities. A top notch stadium that will be renovated / expanded soon. A city and school that's easy to recruit to. A university with a consistent and long standing commitment to sports and, specifically, football. These are all well know attributes that you apparently cannot or will not acknowledge, for obvious reasons.
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There are plenty of reasons he'd go to UL but also plenty of reasons he'd stay at Purdue. I think a lot of UL fans are underestimating Purdue here.
 
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Of course. It's his alma mater. He played there. He's from there. He has a deep attachment and loyalty to the place.

If Purdue was in the midst of difficult times and they asked an up and coming alum to come home and help right the ship, how would you feel if that person said "no, there are too many problems there and I really have it good where I am. I'm an alum and all, but I really don't want to dirty my hands trying to help them get things cleaned up. That's Purdue's problem, not mine!"

If the scenario was reversed, I think your thoughts regarding it would be far more logical and reasoned.
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follow up...

My thoughts have been nothing BUT "logical and reasoned."

In fact, what you're offering is nothing but an emotional reason for him to go to UofL. There's nothing logical or reasoned at all about your position.

Now, I'll answer your question: I can only imagine what my position would be, if my athletic department had been so inept, so corrupt; if my university had been so mis-managed financially, as to be over $300,000,000 in the hole, year in and year out; that my university leadership had been so ... corrupt? ... running the foundation. If we were trying to pull a grad from another program, one that he had been building, with incredible resources, a fan base that adores him, in a conference that's arguably superior, with an incredibly bright future for success.

Tough call. But, I sure as hell wouldn't be going on that other school's forum, trash-talking their fans about how we were going to poach their coach, taunting them with sh*t like, "he gone!"

Y'all have a bad reputation, and it's getting nothing but worse.
 
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boiler1987 said:
There are plenty of reasons he'd go to UL but also plenty of reasons he'd stay at Purdue. I think a lot of UL fans are underestimating Purdue here.
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He's already selected Purdue once, so there's really no need to somehow try to justify why he'd pick Purdue again. I think people being dismissive of his ties to Louisville is what most people are underestimating.
 
I'd like to see examples of coaches that:

1. appeared to lie to players and recruits right before leaving for the next school.

AND

2. had their recruiting negatively affected at the next school.
 
Purdue85 said:
follow up...

My thoughts have been nothing BUT "logical and reasoned."

In fact, what you're offering is nothing but an emotional reason for him to go to UofL. There's nothing logical or reasoned at all about your position.

Now, I'll answer your question: I can only imagine what my position would be, if my athletic department had been so inept, so corrupt; if my university had been so mis-managed financially, as to be over $300,000,000 in the hole, year in and year out; that my university leadership had been so ... corrupt? ... running the foundation. If we were trying to pull a grad from another program, one that he had been building, with incredible resources, a fan base that adores him, in a conference that's arguably superior, with an incredibly bright future for success.

Tough call. But, I sure as hell wouldn't be going on that other school's forum, trash-talking their fans about how we were going to poach their coach, taunting them with sh*t like, "he gone!"

Y'all have a bad reputation, and it's getting nothing but worse.
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I understand you're upset because you haven't been able to form logical and reasoned responses, as evidenced by your real problem; that people are coming here and "trash talking" you. No worries . . . sorry you're so upset about all of this.
 
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I understand you're upset because you haven't been able to form logical and reasoned responses, as evidenced by your real problem; that people are coming here and "trash talking" you. No worries . . . I'll just address people with a more thorough understanding of and knowledgable reputation regarding intercollegiate athletics.
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hey, dipstick, my posts have been nothing BUT logic and reason. You have nothing but emotion... "feeling."

I understand you're upset because you've hitched yourself to a marginal school (academically), with a string of corruption in your athletic department, massive financial mis-management, and a foundation which has had money siphoned off by the millions.

It sucks for you right now. I get it. If you wish to offer a reason, logical response to my question, I'm all in.

but, so far... nuthin'.
 
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hey, dipstick, my posts have been nothing BUT logic and reason. You have nothing but emotion... "feeling."

I understand you're upset because you've hitched yourself to a marginal school (academically), with a string of corruption in your athletic department, massive financial mis-management, and a foundation which has had money siphoned off by the millions.

It sucks for you right now. I get it. If you wish to offer a reason, logical response to my question, I'm all in.

but, so far... nuthin'.
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You've offered little of either, as your increasingly unhinged posts prove. You've never once responded to tell me why JB simply hasn't issued a public statement saying he's not interested in UofL, wouldn't take the job if offered, and isn't leaving Purdue. Until then, your lack of logic and reason is on full display.
 
jbromance said:
You've offered little of either, as your increasingly unhinged posts prove. You've never once responded to tell me why JB simply hasn't issued a public statement saying he's not interested in UofL, wouldn't take the job if offered, and isn't leaving Purdue. Until then, your lack of logic and reason is on full display.
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I've offered nothing but logic and reason.

You and your ilk have offered the emotional reason of... he's from Louisville. Unhinged, "he gone," with no other reason to back it up.

Until you have some reason that he would be gone, you have nothing but emotion. No logic. No reason. No argument.

Will he leave? Don't know. He could.

But, all y'all have is a wish, hope.. and emotion.
 
boiler1987 said:
There are plenty of reasons he'd go to UL but also plenty of reasons he'd stay at Purdue. I think a lot of UL fans are underestimating Purdue here.
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I don't underestimate Purdue. They may very well keep him. Blough's statement though doesn't sound much different than what Jeff has said himself. He's committed to Purdue. He's not going anywhere. That's because he isn't. He's coaching Purdue right now. What he hasn't said is "I'm staying here and will be coaching Purdue next season."

He may come out and say that, but until he does the door remains open.
 
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He has told recruits and players he will be back. Don’t you find it kinda odd not one recruit has decommited and Milton Wright from Lousivlle committed during all of this noise from the U of L side?
 
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This will all come to an end very soon. Either way, Brohm will be making 5.5 million a year
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I agree he will be making more money probably around 4.5 a year. Not a UofL or PU fan but I wonder myself going into a game that can make you bowl eligible why you haven't dismissed any rumors? If he were definitely staying at PU he would have gone public, it only make sense so his team can concentrate on the game that can make or break their season.
 
TDHoosier said:
I agree he will be making more money probably around 4.5 a year. Not a UofL or PU fan but I wonder myself going into a game that can make you bowl eligible why you haven't dismissed any rumors? If he were definitely staying at PU he would have gone public, it only make sense so his team can concentrate on the game that can make or break their season.
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Seniors all over the skill positions... I wouldn't expect concentration to be a problem.
 
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