Eastern decision?
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Just because we don't think every player at purdue is the greatest of all time doesn't mean we arent fans. It means we live in reality unlike you apparently.
Lol, you? reality? Yeah and Hillary is attractive. Stay on your iu site already will ya?
I think your parents should of used better contraception.
Not sure why my ignore list isn't working on my phone, but have to admit that was funny Kessel.
Now I will now out of the romper room banter.
Thats it? That is your best response? hahahaha, dude you will NEVER be the man your mother is. I mean seriously, even dead people don't like you.
Honestly? G-Rob was a better COLLEGIATE (the most important word in my argument) player AND had WAY better stats than Magic Johnson, Tim Duncan, Bill Walton, Larry Bird... That's an easy argument to make of who was the better collegiate athlete.
Lew Alcindor, The Big O, and Wilt, all had some amazing collegiate stats, but it was a completely different era of basketball where a lot of new rules were formed. These players you can argue were better than Glenn, and I'd probably agree with you, but again, people can make an argument for Glenn.
Everyone of the players you mentioned had better collegiate stats than Michael Jordan... So they must all be better than Michael Jordan in the NBA too, right?
Your problem, and your buddy Johnhoosier (or your second alias, whichever it is), is that you're getting caught up in the name of the player and what he accomplished as an NBA player. There's absolutely no debate there. They were all much better NBA players, obviously, than Glenn Robinson. But collegiate players? It's an arguable debate. Many uninformed posters (like yourself) get mixed up with the name of the player, which is based on NBA performance or championships. I'm just saying that Glenn was one of the best collegiate basketball players ever to play the game, as people were naming him the next Jordan coming out of college... Which last I checked, that guy Jordan, was a decent player.
Okay so you wrote a lot but I'll answer to the best of my abilities.
If I was trying to name NBA stars I would have not listed Walton who was definitely remembered for CBB.
Also I attempt to avoid personal jabs therefore John Hoosier and I are not the same. For what it's worth I usually skip his posts.
Also after reading your last post I see that you were constituting greatness as individual statistics. To that I will agree The Big Dog could fill up a stat sheet.
However, when I think of greatness I also include things that would not appear on a stat sheet. Bird elevated his whole team and made each of them better.
Robinson to me filled up a stat sheet similar to what Westbrook is currently doing in the NBA. But obviously in different ways. However, I do not think Westbrook will go down as one of the greats.
By the way.
Tim Duncan::::::
2 time ACC player of year
3 time all American
Swept national player of year honors
Led team to 2 ACC titles
Wake forests first titles since 1960s
All time leader in wins at Wake
You can argue Robinsons STATS were better but that does not make him the better player
Not going to debate about how good Duncan was... He was really good, but all of those accolades mentioned, were done in 4 years at Wake. Not diminishing it, just saying.
Glenn Robinson played only 2 seasons at Purdue, averaged 24 ppg and 9 rpg his sophomore year, and an astonishing 30 ppg and 11 rpg his final year as a junior, for a total of 27.5 ppg and 10 rpg in 2 seasons.
Accolades?
Swept National Player of the Year Honors as well
2x All American
Big Ten POY
Led team to a #1 seed in the NCAA Tournament, and a BT Title.
NCAA D1 Scoring Leader
Big Ten Athlete of the Year
1 of only 15 players to ever score over 1,000 points in a single season.
As for Westbrook... He arguably is one of the top 5 players in the NBA... And the argument can be made that he's the best player in the NBA right now. I do, however, think Westbrook will go down as one of the best PGs to ever play the game, and definitely has revolutionized the PG position. The guy is an absolute freak athletically, and he has that killer instinct in him. I think he's just too stubborn to use his team to its' fullest, which may have been Glenns problem at times too.
The whole point of this, is that I CAN make an argument saying Glenn is one of the best to play in college. I personally don't think he's #1, but the argument is there... I personally think Lew Alcindor is the best, with Oscar Robertson right behind him...
This is the second thread I opened and I find you poking the bear here too. What is your deal? You feel you must personally police posters that you don't agree with? WTF? As I advised you in the other thread, just stop.
Just my opinions....
The case for Robinson as a great is much stronger when focusing on statistics and from your original comment I didn't realize that was where you were basing your argument.
Duncan reached his potential slower but to me Duncan choosing to stay at Wake only reinforced my opinion of him as an all time great (collegiately).
I believe we may have got caught in semantics a little.
Robinson deciding only to stay two years and the fact he carried the team more so than elevated the team is why I couldn't believe you were comparing to some of the players I had mentioned.
For these reasons I don't view him as an ALL TIME GREAT.
But I do see where you are coming from even though I disagree.
I was too tired to remind the operative word was collegiate. I also have a daughter in Maryland that doesn't really know anything about Rick Mount and her surgeon out there found out her father was a Purdue grad and starting talking about how great a shooter Mount was even though the guy had no connection to Purdue. some forget he was the first high school player on SI
Glenn was way better at college basketball than Labron James. No argument there.
I couldn't care less what you advise me to do. Btw if you're going to jump in the middle of an argument at least get it straight who started it.
Bird was great but did not lead Indiana State to a national championship. Magic's MSU team beat them in the finals.
Exactly that is why I said the national championship as in the national championship game. I would have said he led them to a national championship if I was implying that he won..
Your post did not say "as in the national championship game." It said "Bird led them to the national championship."
No one's arguing your point that Larry Bird was a great player. Nor is it a problem with me your original statement was close. It just wasn't correct.
No one's arguing your point that Larry Bird was a great player. Nor is it a problem with me your original statement was close. It just wasn't correct.
Never once did I say he led them to a championship I said the championship. You can spin that however you want I do not care
Good grief. "It depends on what your definition of 'is' is," as a former President and husband of a current Presidential hopeful said.
We both know Bird was a great player, led Indiana State to championships (conference, NCAA regionals) and Boston Celtics to "a" or "the" NBA championships.
The 2016 election is almost over, we are both Purdue fans and I am tired of parsing words.
Boiler up!
We both know Bird was a great player, led Indiana State to championships (conference, NCAA regionals) and Boston Celtics to "a" or "the" NBA championships.
The 2016 election is almost over, we are both Purdue fans and I am tired of parsing words.
Boiler up!
I don't give 2 shits who started it. You are on several threads on this board provoking others. You are the common denominator. As I said before, just stop it.
Go back to posting thoughtful, rational and coherent thoughts. You have much to contribute to this board, but you can't be this pugnacious with every other poster. It really makes the board hard to read with all the bickering, and you are in the middle of every one of these little fights..
Agreed. Please stop.I don't give 2 shits who started it. You are on several threads on this board provoking others. You are the common denominator. As I said before, just stop it.
Go back to posting thoughtful, rational and coherent thoughts. You have much to contribute to this board, but you can't be this pugnacious with every other poster. It really makes the board hard to read with all the bickering, and you are in the middle of every one of these little fights..
So basically, what this discussion comes down to is that Purdue fans are divided. Some, like JohnHoosier, think that Purdue has no chance at landing Eastern. Others, like me, are taking a wait and see attitude and think that Purdue has a chance.
You took the time to respond so clearly you do care. Really kind of sad that an iu fan like yourself needs so much attention from a Purdue board. You pretty much live to find out what we think of you, otherwise you wouldn't be here in the first place.
Threads here very rarely finish how they start sadly.
I'll take blame on this one, I usually don't get caught up in a Peegster trap, but johnhoosier got me on this...
Hats off to him..
#TRUMP2016
He isn't a peegs guy, he has been pro purdue in all of his posts that I have seen. You just acted like an idiot, and he did too. Just ignore the trolls like Kessel and Tom Coverdale. Why would anyone listen to a guy named after that idiotic IU piece of crap?!?!?
