Crime and poverty in AL & MS are localized to Dem controlled cities in those 2 states as it is in most red states like Indiana. Like Indiana, the higher poverty, higher crime areas vote D as does Indianapolis & Gary.
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Crime and poverty in AL & MS are localized to Dem controlled cities in those 2 states as it is in most red states like Indiana. Like Indiana, the higher poverty, higher crime areas vote D as does Indianapolis & Gary.
There is poverty in the rural areas of these states, other states as well that aren’t controlled by the Dems.
Yes true. But crime is lower in rural parts. I live in one of the poorest counties in Indiana...but low crime. They vote predominantly R........like most rural areas do. Seems high crime is reserved for D controlled areas.
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The Democrat motto is let ‘em run wild (as long as they vote Democrat)
There aren’t any gangs and narcotic drug trafficking in the rural areas. Also, the single mother issue is not as prevalent in the rural areas. Add in that I feel that the kids growing up in the gang and violent atmospheres have some sort of PTSD. If the rural areas had similar challenges, there would be similar issues with crime and violence. Therefore, it doesn’t matter who controls the cities, if the aforementioned situations are present, the result will be the same. So what is the Republican solution for single mothers, gangs, and PTSD in the kids? So far I’ve heard none.
Partly true.
The gangs are more prevalent in urban. Gang culture non existent in most rural counties. Do not have that culture rural, as I worked in Center twp as a community worker in Indy.....so I saw the difference first hand.
When urban DAs & judges are weak & have catch & release policies that is the biggest difference. That is the solution.....getting stronger DAs and judges.
Now what's not true ....
My daughter runs an ER as head pharmacist that handles 5-6 counties, mostly rural. She says drugs problems are as high here on Per Capita as when she worked the Grady ER in downtown Atlanta. So drugs here too in rural. But DAs/judges work to curb it in rural areas....not catch and release.
On % basis plenty of rural Indiana counties have as high or higher single parent families. So that's not true
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/release/tables?eid=359286&rid=412
I'm a progressive and I can't tell you the last time that I actually watched MSNBC, CNN, or any other news outlet.
Out of all the crap that Florida's passed lately, this is probably the only good one that I've seen lately. Yet, this is the one that you pick to try and upset us? LOL
I agree with mostly what you say. I know drugs are rampant in the rural communities also, but there is gang violence. You say catch and release is the problem. That is the US way, if you post a bond you are out until your trial. You can arrest all you want, there is always someone else that will be gang banging. Arrest them, then there are more around. The Dems or repubs can’t do anything about that.
They’ve tried stronger laws like the infamous 90s crime bill and that didn’t work. Republicans have done stop and harass and that didn’t work. That’s been deemed unconstitutional anyway.
Oh, & I also wanted to agree with your PTSD notion. I know what you mean....it's not that exactly, but it does ware on the communities & the kids.
I remember going to one of my meetings in Center TWP, Indy, where I worked with community youth. They had a chalk outline outside the community center at the church. The youth had to see that and they knew what happened, many knew the victim and/or the shooter......One of many examples. That hardens youth, being around that constantly. Takes away their childhood innocence way, way too early. That is not real PTSD, but I understand the "PTSD like" comparison I dealt with in those kids.
I'm telling you, it has to be real PTSD. These kids in the inner cities see crime and violence the day they come out of the womb. Just like combat veterans, they hear gunshots on a daily basis from infants to adulthood. They see people being killed from infancy to adulthood. They participate in gang warfare in some of these killings themselves from grade school to adults. They get shot in gang warfare from grade school to adults. They see and witness death from infancy to adulthood. By the time they get to be teenagers, they are desensitized to violence and do not know how to resolve conflicts. So a republican mayor may do this, may do that, but if the Aforementioned problems remain in those communities it will be more of the same and it has been more of the same when a republican was in office like crazy Guiliani.
Crime went down significantly when Giuliani was in office.
Murders and violent crimes have been significantly dropping, countrywide, since the 1980s. This doesn't prove anything.
They went down some before he was in office, sure but only 3 years before. They went down significantly faster after he was in office.
Poverty was already naturally declining until the "war on poverty" started. It's been a flat line ever since.
Wow, there's more crime in the places where more than a dozen people live. What an astute observation.
I never said that it wasn’t a problem. Drugs from south of the border coming into the US has been going on for decades. Plus, the drugs are coming into the US by the smugglers and “mules”. This is nothing new.
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Poverty and crime are mutually exclusive.
Why do you think the crime rate is high in areas like, say, the south side of Chicago, but in rural West Virginia, where there's lots of poor people, living in worst conditions, the crime/violence rate is so much lower (meth use not withstanding).
You and I have had this discussion and are actually in agreement on the fact that there needs to be a cultural change in these areas (which let's be honest, are mainly black population). The "challenges' you refer to are self inflicted. Yes, the govt enables some of it with welfare programs, etc, but the culture of single motherhood and lack of married households, in my opinion, it the head of the snake.
Poverty does not cause crime. Culture does. Being impoverished starts with your upbringing with the single (well 2) biggest factors being a 2 parent household and education.
Why does China have comparatively low crime? Do you know how many cities in China are larger than NY? It's got plenty of population density, therefore, crime should be rampant, right?
India seems to have pretty high population density, yes? I mean, there's over a billion people living there. Yet, compared to the US, crime is relatively low.
I think this is unfair. Single motherhood isn't just a black community problem. In fact, single motherhood wasn't a major issue in this country until it was incentivized to be a single mother. It's the welfare state that has caused this massive problem.
Nope, welfare did not cause the single mother problem. However, once the child is born welfare doesn’t help since father cannot live with the family. In a lot of cases they don’t want to, or the mother doesn’t want them to because they are not together as a couple anymore. You are right that it’s not just a black community problem. But in the poor black communities, it is exacerbated by the crime and drug trafficking.
Because you can get the death penalty for robbery and like 50 other crimes.
Jfc you’re really gonna make that comparison? Could you actually look at why crime is lower there instead of just looking at raw numbers? Crime is lower in an authoritarian state. Shocking.
I’m sure you’re salivating at the thought of such a system.
China lies about all its statistics - crime, economics, covid deaths, genocides, etc - so there is no way to have a true comparison.
Wrong. 72% of black children are born to single mothers. A vast majority, I would say 90% of incarcerated blacks come from single mother households. It's a massive problem.
Well, their crime fighting solution is effective, you have to give them that. People learn quickly not to break the law.
How about we just have death penalty for cases like murder, rape, child molesters and violent crimes committed with a gun?
I'd sign that petition.
So gratified you now understand why China has lower crime rates.
Why don’t you just move there……or Russia…….if you love their approach to crime? Russia allows cops to beat people and arrest them for supporting Ukraine. Right up your alley.
Well it's not 72% it's 64% first off. Second, American Indians (52%) and Latino/Hispanics (42%) aren't far behind. Whites and Asians are the lowest, however you have to look at who these social programs have targeted.
Children in single-parent families by race and ethnicity | KIDS COUNT Data Center
Bar chart and data for Children in single-parent families by race and ethnicity
Help from the government is like a death sentence. No group have been "helped" more than the American Indian and their communities are a disaster.
Also, single parent home %'s have increased significantly since these social programs have started across the board.
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Poor education. Not because the schools/teachers are bad. The parents and in the lot of cases, the single mothers, do not have the capability to help their children succeed in school. At a young age, the child is not read to. They don't help with the homework. They don't check the child's homework to make sure that it is done. Most likely because the parent does not read well themselves and the parent(s) before them and before them. Not to mention the lack of discipline. The crime in these areas is distracting these kids from learning. Plus the PTSD that I mentioned earlier that I believe these kids have. In a lot of case, the kids don't choose the gangs. The gangs choose them. What I mean is that gangs force a lot of these kids to join by beating the crap out of them; threaten their lives if they won't join. All this is not limited to black families on welfare. Non-welfare people that live in these areas are also affected by what I just laid out.
No, you're wrong. It's actually more than 72%. Even the libbiest of lefty libs believes in the stat.Well it's not 72% it's 64% first off. Second, American Indians (52%) and Latino/Hispanics (42%) aren't far behind. Whites and Asians are the lowest, however you have to look at who these social programs have targeted.
Children in single-parent families by race and ethnicity | KIDS COUNT Data Center
Bar chart and data for Children in single-parent families by race and ethnicitydatacenter.aecf.org
Help from the government is like a death sentence. No group have been "helped" more than the American Indian and their communities are a disaster.
Also, single parent home %'s have increased significantly since these social programs have started across the board.
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