Desantis!!!

[BNIBoiler]

As Slow Joe would say "C'mon man...."
Anyone with 25% of a brain knows that OJ murdered his wife and her friend. Did the prosecution do a poor job in court? Yes, they failed miserably. And whether cops were racist or not has nothing to do with anything.
That doesn't negate the fact that even though the court didn't find him guilty, that he didn't do it. Which he did.

I said that I believe OJ may have hired someone to kill them. That is the same as doing the killing yourself. I just don’t believe the timeline of OJ personally doing the killing and getting back in time to catch his cab to the airport. If he was at the scene, perhaps he was there to make sure the job was done. Plus no bloody clothes found anywhere if I recall other than the glove that did not fit. The defenses forensic experts exposed hole after hole in the prosecution’s case. The jury had no choice but to acquit. There were kinds of reasonable doubt. This goes with my response in my earlier post about Perry, it’s not what you know, it’s what you can prove in court.

The same thing with Zimmerman killing Treyvon Martin. I can say the same thing that anyone with 26% of a brain knows that Zimmerman should have been found guilty. Naturally, you are on the side of Zimmerman. But the prosecution could not prove it beyond reasonable doubt.

Here we go with race has nothing to do with the case. Det. Furman, one of the lead detectives was known for years of planting evidence in cars that he stopped driven by blacks. Plus other crap. This goes along with what I’ve been saying all along about these crooked cops.

 

[BNIBoiler]

It's the same reason Chicago keeps voting democrat mayors despite a long list of complete democrat failures. The residents of cook county still blindly go to the polls and do as they're told.

So why do people in MS, AL, AK and other red states that have high poverty and crime keep voting on the same repub governors?

 

[BNIBoiler]

You don't hear about it because it doesn't fit the liberal media narrative.
If a white guy were tortured in to a confession, my reaction would be "well, that sucks" and I'd go on with my day.
It doesn't get clicks or eyeballs. it only works when the message of racial division is attached.

So, you are ok with someone being tortured into a confession for a crime that they absolutely did not commit?

 

[Bruce1]

Sorry for the typo but you know exactly to what chapter and verse I’m referring to.

Why don’t you read your Bible more and practice what it says……..if you can get past all the contradictions. Is that chapter and verse open to interpretation?

You might want to open a dictionary too. It’s not hypocritical to say I would question my stance if it were to happen to my family. It’s called honesty. Try it.

This is just like everything else with DeSantis. He takes actions based on the news of the day and how hard the right wing wind is blowing. Today he’s going to send troops to the border. Yesterday banning DEI at Florida universities.

No, I don't know what chapter and verse you were talking about. How about enlightening me?
It is hypocritical. You have a problem with giving the death penalty to a person who raped my kid but if it is your kid that is raped you might think it is ok to give that person the death penalty. SMH

 

[bonefish1]

So, you are ok with someone being tortured into a confession for a crime that they absolutely did not commit?

I don't really like it, but I'm not all up in arms about it either.
I'll be $10 every one of those people getting interrogated had lengthy criminal records to begin with.

 

[BNIBoiler]

I don't really like it, but I'm not all up in arms about it either.
I'll be $10 every one of those people getting interrogated had lengthy criminal records to begin with.

You are ridiculous.

 

[GeorgeDubya]

I said that I believe OJ may have hired someone to kill them. That is the same as doing the killing yourself. I just don’t believe the timeline of OJ personally doing the killing and getting back in time to catch his cab to the airport. If he was at the scene, perhaps he was there to make sure the job was done. Plus no bloody clothes found anywhere if I recall other than the glove that did not fit. The defenses forensic experts exposed hole after hole in the prosecution’s case. The jury had no choice but to acquit. There were kinds of reasonable doubt. This goes with my response in my earlier post about Perry, it’s not what you know, it’s what you can prove in court.

The same thing with Zimmerman killing Treyvon Martin. I can say the same thing that anyone with 26% of a brain knows that Zimmerman should have been found guilty. Naturally, you are on the side of Zimmerman. But the prosecution could not prove it beyond reasonable doubt.

Here we go with race has nothing to do with the case. Det. Furman, one of the lead detectives was known for years of planting evidence in cars that he stopped driven by blacks. Plus other crap. This goes along with what I’ve been saying all along about these crooked cops.

So there isn’t two justice systems, one for blacks and one for whites? Thanks for clarifying and thanks for proving yourself wrong. It takes talent to be as wrong as you are on such a consistent basis.

 

[BNIBoiler]

So there isn’t two justice systems, one for blacks and one for whites? Thanks for clarifying and thanks for proving yourself wrong. It takes talent to be as wrong as you are on such a consistent basis.

The OJ doesn't disprove what I said about 2 justice systems. There are 2 justice systems, one white and one black in the US. Always has been. However, the OJ trial jury over came this by selecting a diverse jury for a change. The OJ trial proved that the LA police department were a bunch of racists, crime scene incompetent organization. OJ just hired good lawyers to expose that crap.

 

[GeorgeDubya]

The OJ doesn't disprove what I said about 2 justice systems. There are 2 justice systems, one white and one black in the US. Always has been. However, the OJ trial jury over came this by selecting a diverse jury for a change. The OJ trial proved that the LA police department were a bunch of racists, crime scene incompetent organization. OJ just hired good lawyers to expose that crap.

No, there aren’t two justice systems. Where in the United States Constitution does it state that there are? Or is this just another nutty Democrat conspiracy theory of yours?

 

[BNIBoiler]

No, there aren’t two justice systems. Where in the United States Constitution does it state that there are? Or is this just another nutty Democrat conspiracy theory of yours?

As usual, you are showing your ignorance. Plus I find it odd and funny that white people are trying to define what is racist or not to a black person. Please you, and the Boneman stop this democratic or liberal media and conspiracy crap. When I post, I'm talking from a perspective of a black person. Not a Democrat or liberal. Of course it is not in the constitution. These 2 justice systems have been going on since the inception of this country. Jim Crow exacerbated it. Since then and thanks to the 1965 Civil Rights bill, it has not as overt but still exists. Just recently 3 or 4years ago, a judge in Ohio sentenced a black woman to a harsher sentence than a white woman for committing the same crime. Before, you, the Boneman, and others chime in, the white woman a had more egregious criminal record than the black woman.

 

[BoilerJS]

As usual, you are showing your ignorance. Plus I find it odd and funny that white people are trying to define what is racist or not to a black person. Please you, and the Boneman stop this democratic or liberal media and conspiracy crap. When I post, I'm talking from a perspective of a black person. Not a Democrat or liberal. Of course it is not in the constitution. These 2 justice systems have been going on since the inception of this country. Jim Crow exacerbated it. Since then and thanks to the 1965 Civil Rights bill, it has not as overt but still exists. Just recently 3 or 4years ago, a judge in Ohio sentenced a black woman to a harsher sentence than a white woman for committing the same crime. Before, you, the Boneman, and others chime in, the white woman a had more egregious criminal record than the black woman.

Your shick is getting old.
There is only one law on the books that is systemic racism.
I've pointed this out to you many times.
Poor Black Man BNI.
You have my pity.
Do you feel better now?

 

[GeorgeDubya]

As usual, you are showing your ignorance. Plus I find it odd and funny that white people are trying to define what is racist or not to a black person. Please you, and the Boneman stop this democratic or liberal media and conspiracy crap. When I post, I'm talking from a perspective of a black person. Not a Democrat or liberal. Of course it is not in the constitution. These 2 justice systems have been going on since the inception of this country. Jim Crow exacerbated it. Since then and thanks to the 1965 Civil Rights bill, it has not as overt but still exists. Just recently 3 or 4years ago, a judge in Ohio sentenced a black woman to a harsher sentence than a white woman for committing the same crime. Before, you, the Boneman, and others chime in, the white woman a had more egregious criminal record than the black woman.

Don’t associate yourself with black people because they don’t deserve that. The black people I know are upstanding and honest. They don’t lie about absolutely everything like you do and fall for every false Democrat narrative like you do. Spare them from your stupidity and dishonesty, please.

 

[BNIBoiler]

Don’t associate yourself with black people because they don’t deserve that. The black people I know are upstanding and honest. They don’t lie about absolutely everything like you do and fall for every false Democrat narrative like you do. Spare them from your stupidity and dishonesty, please.

You know darn well you don’t know any black people: You are the one that is a liar. You are the one who said about 5 years or so that your father is black and your mother is Cuban. Plus this is your, what 4th or 5th forum handle now. So who is really dishonest?

 

[BNIBoiler]

Your shick is getting old.
There is only one law on the books that is systemic racism.
I've pointed this out to you many times.
Poor Black Man BNI.
You have my pity.
Do you feel better now?

What law is that?

 

[bonefish1]

Your shick is getting old.
There is only one law on the books that is systemic racism.
I've pointed this out to you many times.
Poor Black Man BNI.
You have my pity.
Do you feel better now?

BNI has never personally experienced racism. He's said it himself. I've experienced as much racism as he has.
Everything he knows about racism he hears from race baiters like MSNBC, Urban radio or maybe the boys at the barber shop.

 

[GeorgeDubya]

You know darn well you don’t know any black people: You are the one that is a liar. You are the one who said about 5 years or so that your father is black and your mother is Cuban. Plus this is your, what 4th or 5th forum handle now. So who is really dishonest?

I went to high school and college with many and remain friends with a large majority of them. No, I can read quotes in an honest fashion. You can’t do the most basic of things (like reading quotes) if it doesn’t fit your political narrative. So you’re not just dishonest, you’re also brainwashed.

 

[BNIBoiler]

I went to high school and college with many and remain friends with a large majority of them. No, I can read quotes in an honest fashion. You can’t do the most basic of things (like reading quotes) if it doesn’t fit your political narrative. So you’re not just dishonest, you’re also brainwashed.

If that is true, ask them today if there are 2 justice systems. One for blacks and one for whites. At least 90% of black folks will say yes.

 

[Boilermaker03]

Yeah, definitely. However, the justice system is unfortunately not always full proof. There are m big margins l of error in the justice system. There have been a lot of death row inmates executed or on the verge of execution that did not commit the crime. Mostly blacks. For decades, police have coerced confessions out blacks for crimes that they did not commit. A while back a retired Chicago cop was convicted of doing just that. He tortured many blacks in custody to get confessions. In the 90s, a white lady was raped in Central Park. 6 black teenagers were accused and convicted. Their confessions were beat out of them. While serving time, new evidence came out that totally exonerated them.

You've talked about the Central Park 5 many times and I just took your word for it. I discovered a website that shows the evidence that they DID do it. The narrative that pushes the idea that they are innocent and were cohered is a huge lie. First of all, they claim the kids were interviewed without their parents involved. That's a lie because in the videos of the interviews, you can see their parents with them. They also claim that the kids were not given any food or drink. That's also a lie because the kids themselves say they were given food and drink in the videos. Those kids were criminals and have gotten off based on lies.

Central Park 5 Jogger Attackers

The Central Park Five Jogger Attackers, guilty in their own words. This site has been created as a home for the facts – for the truth.

centralpark5joggerattackers.com

 

[GeorgeDubya]

If that is true, ask them today if there are 2 justice systems. One for blacks and one for whites. At least 90% of black folks will say yes.

I will and I doubt it. If you’re saying it, it’s guaranteed to be incorrect. Just like everything else you say. And I like how you don’t even push back when you’re called a proven liar. You know you are and just move on to the next topic 😂

 

[BNIBoiler]

You've talked about the Central Park 5 many times and I just took your word for it. I discovered a website that shows the evidence that they DID do it. The narrative that pushes the idea that they are innocent and were cohered is a huge lie. First of all, they claim the kids were interviewed without their parents involved. That's a lie because in the videos of the interviews, you can see their parents with them. They also claim that the kids were not given any food or drink. That's also a lie because the kids themselves say they were given food and drink in the videos. Those kids were criminals and have gotten off based on lies.

Central Park 5 Jogger Attackers

The Central Park Five Jogger Attackers, guilty in their own words. This site has been created as a home for the facts – for the truth.

centralpark5joggerattackers.com

Dude, you are so quick to dismiss racism and injustices towards people of color that you picked and found some jive website that says that they indeed did rape the woman without any vetting of that source that you used. This is also an example of you grossly not knowing what you are talking about. It is well documented that the Central Park, now the Exonerated 5 had absolutely nothing to do with the crime of raping the Central Park jogger. After they spent years in prison, convicted as adults DNA evidence came out and exonerated ALL of the 5 boys. The person that the DNA belongs to was arrested and convicted.

Central Park Five: Crime, Coverage & Settlement | HISTORY

Who were the Central Park Five? In 1989, five black and Latino teenagers from Harlem were convicted of raping a white woman, Trisha Meili, while she was jogging in New York City’s Central Park. The convictions were based largely on confessions that the teens later recanted, saying they were...

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Central Park Five: The true story behind When They See Us

Netflix's When They See Us tells the story of the Central Park Five. This is what really happened.

www.bbc.com

The Central Park Five | Ken Burns | PBS | Watch The Central Park Five | Ken Burns | PBS

The Central Park Five tells the story of the five black and Latino teenagers from Harlem who were wrongly convicted of raping a white woman in New York City's Central Park in 1989. Full film now streaming.

www.pbs.org

 

[Riveting-]

If that is true, ask them today if there are 2 justice systems. One for blacks and one for whites. At least 90% of black folks will say yes.

So what if 90% say yes, assuming that is even true (which I doubt).

At least 90% also mindlessly vote for dems in large US cities despite horrible crime and schools under dem mayors and admins.

It is all part of the same narrative, which you have obviously bought into.

 

[BuilderBob6]

You've talked about the Central Park 5 many times and I just took your word for it. I discovered a website that shows the evidence that they DID do it. The narrative that pushes the idea that they are innocent and were cohered is a huge lie. First of all, they claim the kids were interviewed without their parents involved. That's a lie because in the videos of the interviews, you can see their parents with them. They also claim that the kids were not given any food or drink. That's also a lie because the kids themselves say they were given food and drink in the videos. Those kids were criminals and have gotten off based on lies.

Central Park 5 Jogger Attackers

The Central Park Five Jogger Attackers, guilty in their own words. This site has been created as a home for the facts – for the truth.

centralpark5joggerattackers.com

Oh my God.

And you made your decision because you found a website.

 

[GeorgeDubya]

Oh my God.

And you made your decision because you found a website.

You’ve made a lot of bad decisions due to websites like Twitter. Where else would you get your 24/7 Trump outrage porn?

 

[GeorgeDubya]

Dude, you are so quick to dismiss racism and injustices towards people of color that you picked and found some jive website that says that they indeed did rape the woman without any vetting of that source that you used. This is also an example of you grossly not knowing what you are talking about. It is well documented that the Central Park, now the Exonerated 5 had absolutely nothing to do with the crime of raping the Central Park jogger. After they spent years in prison, convicted as adults DNA evidence came out and exonerated ALL of the 5 boys. The person that the DNA belongs to was arrested and convicted.

Central Park Five: Crime, Coverage & Settlement | HISTORY

Who were the Central Park Five? In 1989, five black and Latino teenagers from Harlem were convicted of raping a white woman, Trisha Meili, while she was jogging in New York City’s Central Park. The convictions were based largely on confessions that the teens later recanted, saying they were...

www.history.com

Central Park Five: The true story behind When They See Us

Netflix's When They See Us tells the story of the Central Park Five. This is what really happened.

www.bbc.com

The Central Park Five | Ken Burns | PBS | Watch The Central Park Five | Ken Burns | PBS

The Central Park Five tells the story of the five black and Latino teenagers from Harlem who were wrongly convicted of raping a white woman in New York City's Central Park in 1989. Full film now streaming.

www.pbs.org

I’ll do what you do…

They were 100% guilty and got off because they’re black. Another example of two justice systems in America, one for blacks and one for whites.

 

[BNIBoiler]

Oh my God.

And you made your decision because you found a website.

I know talking about racism is not popular here. However, as you can see with Boilermaker03’s and George’s, or what ever he calls himself now, absolutely dumb responses, doing so has exposed the ridiculousness and the crazies of some of these folks in this forum. I don’t know where Boilermaker03 found that crappy website. But it shows how far these crazies will go.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Is that why the repubs hasn’t won the popular vote since 2004? And 1988 prior to that.

No, it’s because all the losers who want free stuff from the government vote Democrat.

 

[Boilermaker03]

Dude, you are so quick to dismiss racism and injustices towards people of color that you picked and found some jive website that says that they indeed did rape the woman without any vetting of that source that you used. This is also an example of you grossly not knowing what you are talking about. It is well documented that the Central Park, now the Exonerated 5 had absolutely nothing to do with the crime of raping the Central Park jogger. After they spent years in prison, convicted as adults DNA evidence came out and exonerated ALL of the 5 boys. The person that the DNA belongs to was arrested and convicted.

Central Park Five: Crime, Coverage & Settlement | HISTORY

Who were the Central Park Five? In 1989, five black and Latino teenagers from Harlem were convicted of raping a white woman, Trisha Meili, while she was jogging in New York City’s Central Park. The convictions were based largely on confessions that the teens later recanted, saying they were...

www.history.com

Central Park Five: The true story behind When They See Us

Netflix's When They See Us tells the story of the Central Park Five. This is what really happened.

www.bbc.com

The Central Park Five | Ken Burns | PBS | Watch The Central Park Five | Ken Burns | PBS

The Central Park Five tells the story of the five black and Latino teenagers from Harlem who were wrongly convicted of raping a white woman in New York City's Central Park in 1989. Full film now streaming.

www.pbs.org

Jive website? Did you even look? You'll see that this so called "jive" website holds the inconvenient truth that you are unwilling to pay attention to. The original interrogation videos on right there for you to see. These videos haven't been available to the public for decades. They admitted to the crimes ON TAPE. You didn't watch ANY of the interrogation videos did you? If you watched just the first one one the site, Raymond Santana talks about the attack on the woman at the 20 minute mark. He talks about HE HIMSELF was groping her breasts while Kevin Richardson was raping her. Just because they found semen from someone else in her, doesn't mean they didn't do what they did. There are very easy explanations for why they only found semen from one guy.

This is a quote from one of the sites you linked. "Four of the five teens, all from Harlem, confessed on videotape following hours of interrogation. The boys later recanted and plead not guilty, saying their confessions had been coerced." That's a lie. The first boy Raymond Santana started talking about the attack on the female within 20 minutes.

“When we were arrested, the police deprived us of food, drink or sleep for more than 24 hours.” Also a lie as they are asked if they received these things in their interviews and all say yes.

“Under duress, we falsely confessed” What proof do they have they they were under duress? Anyone can claim this, but you need to be able to prove it. There is no indication of duress from the confession videos.

They could have easily used a condom which is why you wouldn't have semen. The other guy could have come after and raped her which is why they found his semen. Just because he confessed to raping her, doesn't mean that the other 5 didn't do what they admitted to doing.

The other question you have to ask is what did Matias Reyes have to gain by coming forward to confess? I think there is a lot more going on here than you think.

The 5 boys all confessed. 6 other boys testified they saw the 5 committing the crime. Interestingly, there was talk of someone named Rudy that took her walkman and tried to take her fanny pack. Rudy was a nickname for Matias Reyes.

 

[Boilermaker03]

Oh my God.

And you made your decision because you found a website.

No, I made my decision because I actually watched the interrogation videos. You know, when they confessed.

 

[Boilermaker03]

I know talking about racism is not popular here. However, as you can see with Boilermaker03’s and George’s, or what ever he calls himself now, absolutely dumb responses, doing so has exposed the ridiculousness and the crazies of some of these folks in this forum. I don’t know where Boilermaker03 found that crappy website. But it shows how far these crazies will go.

Yes a crappy website. The place on the internet that holds ACTUAL evidence of the confessions is crappy. Get the F out of here.

 

[Boilermaker03]

@BNIBoiler You might want to read this. Reyes had an alias of Rudy. The boys talked about Rudy taking her fanny pack and walkman.

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The idea that Korey Wise had 3 chance meetings with Matias Reyes is very far-fetched. How far-fetched? So much so that there is evidence one didn't occur.

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"There are several letters and statements made by prisoners who knew Reyes. These prisoners spoke about stories that Reyes had told them about that night. They explain that Patricia Meili drew Matias Reyes in with her cries for help. He then joined in on the attack seeing a large group of teens there having their way with her. There is also some evidence that he may have known one the teens, Steven Lopez, which would explain how he was able to join in."

Reyes was given favorable treatment by coming forward. He had something to gain. He also was left handed. He described how he used items to hit her with his left hand, yet the wounds on her suggested that it was someone right handed that hit her.

 

[Boilermaker03]

@BNIBoiler

All This Evidence​

Piles of evidence! If you only know the Central Park 5 cases from the ‘When They See Us’ Netflix series then you will probably be shocked to learn that there was a lot of evidence against the Central Park 5.
There were blood and semen stains found on three of the five teens. There were hairs that were found to be consistent with the hair on Patricia Meili’s head and pubic area found on two of the boys. One had little blonde hairs in his underwear.
There were multiple witnesses who corroborated their so-called “coerced” stories. On top of that, there were witnesses who heard Korey Wise and Kevin Richardson discussing raping the woman. There was enough evidence to convince all of the black jurors, all of the white jurors, and all of the other jurors as well.

Where is The Coercion?​

In the case of the Central Park Five, the claim that coercion happened keeps coming up. What many don’t recognize is that the coercion argument was used during their trials.
The prosecution put an end to the coercion argument pretty quickly and there was a time during the trial where Antron McCray’s father was being questioned by Elizabeth Lederer about the defense’s claims that Antron was coerced. His father, being asked some tough questions, was forced to come clean and state that the police did not tell Antron what to say at all.
Perhaps this is the real reason why McCray has such disdain for his father.

 

[BNIBoiler]

@BNIBoiler You might want to read this. Reyes had an alias of Rudy. The boys talked about Rudy taking her fanny pack and walkman.

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This is your number one source for facts and information on The Central Park 5 and the Central Park Jogger case. Find answers about the case here!

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Did Wise and Reyes Conspire Together? | Central Park 5

The idea that Korey Wise had 3 chance meetings with Matias Reyes is very far-fetched. How far-fetched? So much so that there is evidence one didn't occur.

centralpark5.com

"There are several letters and statements made by prisoners who knew Reyes. These prisoners spoke about stories that Reyes had told them about that night. They explain that Patricia Meili drew Matias Reyes in with her cries for help. He then joined in on the attack seeing a large group of teens there having their way with her. There is also some evidence that he may have known one the teens, Steven Lopez, which would explain how he was able to join in."

Reyes was given favorable treatment by coming forward. He had something to gain. He also was left handed. He described how he used items to hit her with his left hand, yet the wounds on her suggested that it was someone right handed that hit her.

You right wingers need to really and I mean really quit with all the conspiracy theories. Y'all have been doing this stuff for decades. Yes, I've seen the videos. I saw the videos back then also. You left out the part where the woman asking questions mentioned that the boys did he give a statement to the detectives before this meeting. That is when the coercing occurred. And that was with no parent in the room. The parent is now with the woman asking questions to get the official confession on record for the upcoming trial. That is fine but again no parent, or lawyer, for that matter, was involved during the initial detective interrogations.

I know it is hard for you and other white people to believe that the cops can do this type of stuff as far as coerced confessions. Police use a lot of techniques whether it is forceful or less forceful like lying to the suspects in some fashion to get the confession. Plus add in the fact that these were 14-15 year old boys. These boys would have confessed to killing Dr. Martin Luther King.

From the Central Park 5 to the Exonerated 5: Can It Happen Again? - New York State Bar Association

Thirty years ago, a 28-year-old jogger named Trisha Meili was beaten, raped and left for dead in New York City’s Central Park, and it wasn’t long before five teenagers-African-American and Hispanic, dubbed by the press as the Central Park 5-were arrested, tried and convicted of a crime they...

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[Boilermaker03]

You left out the part where the woman asking questions mentioned that the boys did he give a statement to the detectives before this meeting. That is when the coercing occurred. And that was with no parent in the room.

Really?! Great!! And you have evidence of this of course right? Oh, let me guess. You don't. In fact, if the parent wasn't there for that statement as well, that would be illegal. Since it hasn't found to be illegal, then your argument is bullshit. (What I mean by that is that it would have been an easy way to get the case thrown out originally and it wasn't. The parent had to have been there.)

You're forgetting about ALL of the other facts of the case that convicted these boys. All of the other people that testified that they were BRAGGING about raping a woman. The hairs and semen found in the pants of several of the boys. Hairs in their pants consistent with the victims. The fact that one of the boys blurted out in the Police car that he didn't have nothing to do with the rape, before the police even knew there was a rape victim. How multiple of them took the police to the spot of the attack individually. How Wise took the police to the crime scene and said “Damn, damn, that’s a lot of blood. ... I knew she was bleeding, but I didn’t know how bad she was. It was dark. I couldn’t see how much blood there was at night.”

Also, if Reyes was the only person to attack her, how, when he was originally arrested, did Wise know that there was a walkman in a fanny pack?

There is SO much damning evidence, but none of that matters to you does it?

The prosecution had always stated that there was another rapist that got away. Well guess what. That rapist was Reyes.

 

[GeorgeDubya]

You right wingers need to really and I mean really quit with all the conspiracy theories. Y'all have been doing this stuff for decades. Yes, I've seen the videos. I saw the videos back then also. You left out the part where the woman asking questions mentioned that the boys did he give a statement to the detectives before this meeting. That is when the coercing occurred. And that was with no parent in the room. The parent is now with the woman asking questions to get the official confession on record for the upcoming trial. That is fine but again no parent, or lawyer, for that matter, was involved during the initial detective interrogations.

I know it is hard for you and other white people to believe that the cops can do this type of stuff as far as coerced confessions. Police use a lot of techniques whether it is forceful or less forceful like lying to the suspects in some fashion to get the confession. Plus add in the fact that these were 14-15 year old boys. These boys would have confessed to killing Dr. Martin Luther King.

From the Central Park 5 to the Exonerated 5: Can It Happen Again? - New York State Bar Association

Thirty years ago, a 28-year-old jogger named Trisha Meili was beaten, raped and left for dead in New York City’s Central Park, and it wasn’t long before five teenagers-African-American and Hispanic, dubbed by the press as the Central Park 5-were arrested, tried and convicted of a crime they...

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Lololol conspiracy theories are all from the left wing these days. Own it. You’re exactly who you despise but you’re too dumb to recognize it.

 

[GeorgeDubya]

I know talking about racism is not popular here. However, as you can see with Boilermaker03’s and George’s, or what ever he calls himself now, absolutely dumb responses, doing so has exposed the ridiculousness and the crazies of some of these folks in this forum. I don’t know where Boilermaker03 found that crappy website. But it shows how far these crazies will go.

You’re the craziest (90% of republicans are “white supremacists” you said) member of the board and also the dumbest. Good try though.

 

[Boilermaker03]

You’re the craziest (90% of republicans are “white supremacists” you said) member of the board and also the dumbest. Good try though.

I wouldn't say dumbest. There are others that take that crown.

 

[GeorgeDubya]

I wouldn't say dumbest. There are others that take that crown.

He can’t comprehend the most basic of quotes. It’s hard to get dumber than that.

 

[Boilermaker03]

He can’t comprehend the most basic of quotes. It’s hard to get dumber than that.

And yet they do.

 

[bonefish1]

Jive website? Did you even look? You'll see that this so called "jive" website holds the inconvenient truth that you are unwilling to pay attention to. The original interrogation videos on right there for you to see. These videos haven't been available to the public for decades. They admitted to the crimes ON TAPE. You didn't watch ANY of the interrogation videos did you? If you watched just the first one one the site, Raymond Santana talks about the attack on the woman at the 20 minute mark. He talks about HE HIMSELF was groping her breasts while Kevin Richardson was raping her. Just because they found semen from someone else in her, doesn't mean they didn't do what they did. There are very easy explanations for why they only found semen from one guy.

This is a quote from one of the sites you linked. "Four of the five teens, all from Harlem, confessed on videotape following hours of interrogation. The boys later recanted and plead not guilty, saying their confessions had been coerced." That's a lie. The first boy Raymond Santana started talking about the attack on the female within 20 minutes.

“When we were arrested, the police deprived us of food, drink or sleep for more than 24 hours.” Also a lie as they are asked if they received these things in their interviews and all say yes.

“Under duress, we falsely confessed” What proof do they have they they were under duress? Anyone can claim this, but you need to be able to prove it. There is no indication of duress from the confession videos.

They could have easily used a condom which is why you wouldn't have semen. The other guy could have come after and raped her which is why they found his semen. Just because he confessed to raping her, doesn't mean that the other 5 didn't do what they admitted to doing.

The other question you have to ask is what did Matias Reyes have to gain by coming forward to confess? I think there is a lot more going on here than you think.

The 5 boys all confessed. 6 other boys testified they saw the 5 committing the crime. Interestingly, there was talk of someone named Rudy that took her walkman and tried to take her fanny pack. Rudy was a nickname for Matias Reyes.

Reminds me a lot of the Duke lacrosse rape allegations with the stripper. Once the race hustlers get involved (and I don't even know if Jesse and Rev Al were involved with the Central Park 5, but it's a safe bet) then the narrative changes from the victim to the accused.

 

[Joetboiler]

You are always quick to kill someone. If the justice system was foolproof, perhaps I would believe in government capital punishment. I know y'all don't want to hear it but throughout the years there have been hundreds and hundreds of folks and mostly black and brown folks had their executions totally overturned. They have been exonerated due to modern technology like DNA and other methods. If it was up to you, these innocent folks would have been killed by execution. The state of Illinois back in the 90s had to suspend death after over 20 or so death row inmates had their convictions overturned due to new evidence. A group of Northwestern law students were part of this program. You need to move to Saudi Arabia.

Um that group of Northwestern students - The Innocence Project- led by Prof. Protess was also good at putting innocent black men in prison. You seriously don’t know it was ended after it was discovered they fabricated evidence a coerced a confession out of an innocent black man - Alstory Simon? Who was later released by Anita Alverez. He won a $40 million lawsuit against Northwestern. And a probable murderer was released - on falsified evidence. What they did brought every over turned conviction into question. But too late. This guy will be a stain on Northwestern forever.

https://www.vox.com/2014/11/18/7199141/innocence-project-wrongful-convictions