Yep. I would've thought everyone would've gotten the hint when Fauci started recommending wearing 2 cloth masks.
What do you mean "opportunities for a failure"? What is your rationale? If a mask helps to keep your viral cloud down to a foot or two instead of 5 or 6 feet, that substantially reduces the likelihood you transmit the virus in normal public interactions.
N95's are mass manufactured and widely available. Are you going to give Biden a high five now since you were unwantedly criticizing him?
Worthless isn't the same as 50-60% effective (if that's even the case). How ridiculous.
So, let's clarify:
And there you have it, the strongest evidence that exists for cloth masks.....anecdotal stories.
You just don’t get it. Americans, at least those that haven’t been brainwashed by the corporate media and elites, don’t want to be told they have to do anything, they want the information and then the freedom to make the decision for their self and family, that’s all. And yes, freedom trumps any scenario you want to spout. Freedom is the foundation of this country and it takes precedent over masks and vaccines. If you don’t understand that then you really should educate yourself on world and American history.
Dont complicate matters....slow Joe is still trying to figure out who the Governor of Florida is (Governor Who?)....
I’ll give Joe Biden a high five when he sends the N95 masks out to everyone (1) with his stimulus checks or (2) when he sends them out to everyone who hasn’t been vaccinated while telling everyone who has been vaccinated that they aren’t necessary and that’s why he didn’t send them out to the smart people.
It’s a coin flip.
You should reread what I said. ID's prove who you are but so do the other procedures that have been used without the ID itself.
That's not the strongest evidence. Just follow the science for better evidence.
www.cdc.gov
50%-60% effective isn't your likelihood of getting the virus. It's 50-60% effective in removing viral particulate from being in the open air. Your coin flip example isn't a reflection of anything.
Your guess doesn't require analysis. My neice guesses that bird seed grows birds. It doesn't make it the case just because she sees birds around the seeds when they are spread on the ground.
They were effective in reducing the spread. Idiots that refused to vaccinate and mask are perpetuating the virus now.
People were violating mask mandates anyway. If there is at least a carrot that getting vaccinated elevates the "hassle" to wear masks constantly, that may be a good method to convince a good segment of the population to get vaccinated. It seemed to help make some progress there.
One of your articles is From June 2020, another was mostly written in 2020.That's not the strongest evidence. Just follow the science for better evidence.
Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus
We talked to UCSF epidemiologist George Rutherford, MD, and infectious disease specialist Peter Chin-Hong, MD, about the CDC’s reversal on mask-wearing, the current science on how masks work, and what to consider when choosing a mask.www.ucsf.edu
"A recent study published in Health Affairs, for example, compared the COVID-19 growth rate before and after mask mandates in 15 states and the District of Columbia. It found that mask mandates led to a slowdown in daily COVID-19 growth rate, which became more apparent over time. The first five days after a mandate, the daily growth rate slowed by 0.9 percentage-points compared to the five days prior to the mandate; at three weeks, the daily growth rate had slowed by 2 percentage-points."
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.
An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19
The science around the use of masks by the public to impede COVID-19 transmission is advancing rapidly. In this narrative review, we develop an analytical framework to examine mask usage, synthesizing the relevant literature to inform multiple areas: population impact, transmission...www.pnas.org
Of course he isnt going to say ignore the CDC and ignore Biden. He works for Biden which makes his declaration that "We know cloth masks aren't very effective" rather extraordinary. He's gone about as far as he can go, without getting fired from his position.
One is meant to protect you and your fellow citizens; the other to disenfranchise non-Republican voters. I was surprised at first that someone wouldn't be able to see that, until I saw you were the poster.
You do realize people of every race the majority are in favor of voter ID....don't you?
How does a mask reduce transmission rates for vaccinated individuals? And if you find a study that somehow suggests it, then why do I need to start wearing a mask now, versus two weeks ago? The delta variant could have been in the environment two weeks ago, but why would I need to wear a mask today if I’m vaccinated.
You are 18 years old and are about to get laid. The girl says, "I'm ovulating, there's a high probability I'll get pregnant if we do this... but I can take this pill which will reduce that chance by 50%... or we can do nothing and take our chances?"
There is a study that suggests that vaccinated people transmit Delta. It's what the CDC based their new reports on. It was a very narrow study associated with a hyperlocal outbreak, so it is likely flawed, but there is evidence out there. Further, it's been suggested (no, I don't know if there are studies) that D results in a higher viral load, even in vaccinated individuals, which would suggest that any respiratory droplets from those individuals would also have a higher viral load and possibly be able to cause infection.
I’ll wear a mask if all grocery stores require it or I’m flying. (Aka no choice)
And I get that. My kid just turned 12 and is now vaccinated.
While I don't necessarily have a problem with the sentiment that dumb people who won't get vaccinated are on their own, the problem is that it also endangers people who CAN'T get vaccinated, even if they want to. Gr8 mentioned kids as one population that, at least currently, fits this description, and your response to that seems to imply that you're ok with protecting kids until such time as they can be vaccinated. But there are also adults who, for medical reasons, we can't vaccinate. I guess I'd just rather do my part to protect vulnerable people even if that means also protecting dumb people. That's the whole point of herd immunity to begin with, that enough people are immune to something that those who CAN'T become immune are also protected by the fact that the disease has nowhere to spread to.
It’s also affecting hospitals again, where you have hundreds of beds occupied by preventable severe COVID cases when others aren’t able to get adequate care because of it.
If you want to protect kids you should focus on:
Actual scientist, not biased government hacks who are receiving grant funding from Fauci, I mean China, will tell you that universal vaccinations of a leaky vaccine, which this is, is actually anti science and creates a more dangerous pathogen. Universal vaccination forces the virus to mutate to adapt to the vaccine, which then creates an even more lethal virus. People who are healthy and not in the highly susceptible age ranges should not get vaccinated. Viruses don’t want to kill their host, they want to spread to as many hosts as possible. People who are susceptible should get vaccinated but for the rest of us, we should be focusing on boosting our immune systems and being healthy. That is far and away the best defense against this disease.
Yep, the same pillow he had you biting while he was spanking your ass. 🤡
My point in bringing up kids was that Gunner seemed to regard Gr8’s gym mask policy as acceptable as it is intended to protect kids who can’t be vaccinated, but doesn’t seem willing to wear a mask to protect adults who can’t be vaccinated.
Republican hypocrisy - No vaccine passport to enter a restaurant, but an ID to vote.
If you don’t understand the fundamental difference between those two scenarios and how they apply to our constitution, you need to go back and get an education
One of Biden's top Covid advisors said just this week....."we know cloth masks aren't very effective."
That was before the surge in the delta variant. New information prompted a change in the plan.
The argument about the effectiveness of cloth masks not withstanding (and boilersteel has pointed out that even Osterholm has said they’re better than nothing), cloth masks are not the only option. So, even if I were to stipulate that cloth masks were completely useless, the same cannot be said of N95s. So, if your position is that you're not going to wear a cloth mask because it's not effective, are you committing to wearing an N95?
Public health takes priority over individual health. I want to drink and drive.........but because I stand a better chance of killing someone when I do, the government has made it against the law. The public comes before the individual.
