That is a whole lot of words to say:
"Yeah, IU sucks, Tom Allen sucks, and Walt Bell sucks."
Next time, just save your thumbs.
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"Yeah, IU sucks, Tom Allen sucks, and Walt Bell sucks."
Next time, just save your thumbs.
You’re right, Bell is the coach no other program except Indinia wanted, since he was run off at Maryland, FSU and UMass. He failed spectacularly at each stop, but that’s a real steal for the worst program in the Big 10. And the RevCoach LEO had to donate part of his bloated salary to bring him in! Real programs don’t have to do that. Ever.
A 4 star transfer? Who couldn’t start at Auburn? Lol. He’ll get five to seven touches a game, tops. And weren’t you the poster who said stars don’t matter after high school? Now they do?
Carr left the clown show over a month ago. Ask the RevCoach LEO. Turns out he was the first of many players to run for the door.
Your recruiting class will be less than half of what it is in two years when kids get tired of losing games in front of 20,000 fans while hearing about RevCoach LEO’s hot pew. Most of those players will never contribute.
Your QB commit couldn’t wait to jump ship, and the kid you think you’ll get is out of options. If you get him, it’s because all of his earlier options have disappeared. Try to follow recruiting a little closer next time.
And most IU fans thought your 2021 team would be in the top 20 all year and challenge for the Big 10 title. It was an insane expectation since your talent was in the bottom quarter of the conference, and your the season confirmed that without question. Coaching mattes, and your coaches aren’t very good.
Indinia doesn’t care about football, so you’ll keep deluding yourself into thinking 7-0 is possible next season. The rest of the college football world will just laugh and see if they can schedule Indinia for homecoming.
Of course you did, genius. Anyone with an IQ over 4 would understand that. Unfortunately you dont.
Your opinions(and lack of reading skills) are so far from reality it's impressive.
1. Writing off a coach one week into his tenure is idiotic, I'm not impressed by the hire, but I'm a sane enough person to allow someone a chance to prove them self before forming a full opinion on them.
2. I said HS Stars don't matter once you hit college, lol you have to work on those reading skills, seriously it's getting embarrassing at this point. I said that in reference to Tuttle being considered a 4 star out of high school before transferring to IU. He was not given a transfer grade but he definitely wouldn't have been a 4 star as a transfer.
3. Our QB commit stayed locked in until his primary recruiter was fired, and he jumped ship to go to a coach who had been recruiting him before he committed to IU. If he had wanted to "jump ship" so badly, he would've decommitted in October and completely opened up his recruitment. The kid that's "out of options" is also being recruited by UF in addition to Oregon, two programs that are far superior to Purdue. If he commits it will be far more impressive than PU beating out crappy Nick Sheridan at IU and no one else for In-state Brady Allen.
4. Expectations were all over the place but the consensus among most people was definitely around 8-4/7-5, not contending for the B1G title as you say.
5. Talent is 8th in the B1G, according to 247 sports, last time I checked 8th out of 14 is not the bottom 25th percentile, lol I thought Purdue was known for being an engineering school, this is 2nd grade math you're failing at. That same site had PU 12th in the B1G, and that's with PU's best two recruits by a mile being on the roster, it's only going to get worse for PU next year as they've both declared for the draft.
6. I commented on the 7-0 thread before you created this one saying it was very unlikely they go 7-0, I still hold that view but of course you will hear what you want to hear just like all you Boilermaker idiots do.
*Don't
Apparently your grammar skills took a post off.
That post said:
IU offense is in bad shape.
Walt Bell has an unimpressive resume, but I reserve judgment two weeks into a coach's tenure.
The notion that Tom Allen ruined three four star QB's is false.
There’s plenty of proof that Bell is terrible. Check out his record. Only Indinia fans are too stupid to see you dumped one lousy coach and hired an even worse one.
Talking about Tuttle, a failed quarterback at two schools? Yeah, that’s another convincing argument about why stars matter.
And your quarterback commit said he was staying after Sheridan left, only to run for door as soon as he cultivated another option. It was apparent he wanted nothing to do with the losing of Indinia. The one you’re chasing now is out of options, which is the only reason he’s considering Indinia.
As for talent, it’s idiotic for you to say Indinia has the 8th most talented team in the Big ten. You were badly beaten on nearly every conference game, and most of those involved teams that let up in the second half. Only Indinia fans would make such a ridiculous statement after what everyone saw on the field this past season. You were poorly coached and had little talent. Those are facts borne out by the results.
But Indinia fans swore you’d contend for the Big ten championship and be a top 20 team all year. We know why you’re backpedaling about that now, but it’s easy to read what was said before the season. Of course you all look like fools now, but you know that.
And those same fools are already talking about 7-0 to start next year, even though you have the worst program in the BiG. Take the L dude, and stop looking like a fan from the easiest school to get into in the Big ten. No need to keep telling us you’re dumb. We read your stuff. We’re convinced.
Talking about Tuttle, a failed quarterback at two schools? Yeah, that’s another convincing argument about why stars matter.
And your quarterback commit said he was staying after Sheridan left, only to run for door as soon as he cultivated another option. It was apparent he wanted nothing to do with the losing of Indinia. The one you’re chasing now is out of options, which is the only reason he’s considering Indinia.
As for talent, it’s idiotic for you to say Indinia has the 8th most talented team in the Big ten. You were badly beaten on nearly every conference game, and most of those involved teams that let up in the second half. Only Indinia fans would make such a ridiculous statement after what everyone saw on the field this past season. You were poorly coached and had little talent. Those are facts borne out by the results.
But Indinia fans swore you’d contend for the Big ten championship and be a top 20 team all year. We know why you’re backpedaling about that now, but it’s easy to read what was said before the season. Of course you all look like fools now, but you know that.
And those same fools are already talking about 7-0 to start next year, even though you have the worst program in the BiG. Take the L dude, and stop looking like a fan from the easiest school to get into in the Big ten. No need to keep telling us you’re dumb. We read your stuff. We’re convinced.
The RevCoach LEO doesn’t understand offensive football, which is why he’s on his fourth OC in six seasons. Why would any decent quarterback sign up for that disaster? He didn’t ruin them as much as he neglected them. It’s coaching malpractice and incompetence, pure and simple. Lucky for you Indinia doesn’t care about football and is happy to be a doormat for the rest of the Big 10.
Wow, we found one thing to agree on. CTA is not an offensive coach. But he's on his fourth OC because his first one retired after being an average OC for two years. The next did very well and was offered a head coaching job. The third did poorly and needed to be fired. The only one that's on Allen is Sheridan, he's had one great hire, one average hire, and one terrible hire. He hasn't ruined or neglected any of his QB's. Penix's injuries are the only reason he hasn't had more success in spite of having the worst QB coach Allen has hired. Tuttle wasn't a 4 star as a transfer and McCulley is a true freshman right now, he should not be judged because the three QB's ahead of him got injured throughout the season and he was thrust into the action before he was ready.
Also am I missing something or is PU also a really average to below average program, the stadium's a dump and they were Notre Dame's bitch for 40+ years. No doubt IU is not a football school, but look in the mirror bud, Purdue is nearly as pathetic as IU historically and it's not like they have a very bright future with the terrible job Brohm has done recruiting. Just be grateful PU is in the B1G west.
Saying Purdue is nearly as pathetic as IU historically proves how little you know about football. When did Purdue turn into one of the worst P5 programs of all time like IU?
Lol at saying Brohm has done a terrible job in recruiting. ‘22 will end up being a solid class and ‘23 is already off to a great start with another 4* QB from Louisiana.
Brohm>>>>>>>>Allen
Purdue has landed a 4* QB in each of the last 2 classes and has a third committed for ‘23. How is that pathetic exactly? Your QB room next year is a joke.
Who cares if you landed a good RB transfer when your OL is a dumpster fire?
Oh and how have your 4* commitments fared over the past years by the way?
Tuttle- awful
Williams- didn’t play/entered portal
James- transferred away from a sinking ship
Robbins- can’t crack the rotation
Why would any of us worry about a 4* of yours when they’ve done next to nothing for you over the last few years?
Brohm has two four stars this year, both had previous ties to Purdue, the rest of the class sucks, the offer list for most of PU's commits has less than 3 P5 offers, there's not a single IU commit with less than 3 P5 offers and most have above 6. He has only recruited one position well and that's QB, which is good, but when literally every other position is a mediocre three star, one four star QB is not going to save a pathetic class.
What ties to Purdue did Allen have?
You do realize P5 offers aren’t everything right? Look at the guys jumping ship from your program. A good number of them had a good number of P5 offers and where’d that get them?
He hasn’t recruited WR well? And that’ll only increase once Bell gets drafted and Milton Weight will be drafted too.
Good news is this class won’t be expected to contribute right away since we bring back the vast majority of our starters from this year unlike you guys who lose a good portion of your best players from a 2-10 team.
But hey congrats on getting your stud because his dad is your RB coach lol. And Mullen because of his brother haha. You think you’ll have a good ‘23 class after your dumpster fire season? Think you’ll have a better class than us in ‘23?
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Already said this a million times but if a guy transfers elsewhere you look at his transfer rating not his hs rating. Tuttle was not given a transfer rating but if he was it certainly would not have been 4 stars. James is used goods, mediocre AF and afraid of competition, his transfer rating only proves it. Williams was not better than either of our starting linebackers this year, he didn't deserve to play. Robbins was a part of the rotation this year so that statement is false, however he wasn't a starter as they had more developed older guys.
Lol at trying to guess what his transfer rating was. IU fans couldn’t stop bragging about landing this stud 4* guy when he committed but now he sucks? Lol.
I don’t even think Sampson will do much for us honestly but he’s another body for depth.
How many snaps did Robbins actually get? The fact that your DL was extremely mediocre and he still couldn’t get meaningful snaps speaks volumes. But hey he had 10+ P5 offers so he must be legit!
P5 offers aren't everything just like stars aren't everything but the fact remains there's a reason OSU's commits average more P5 offers than any other program in the B1G.
Milton Wright had one good game this season, he went off against the second worst team in the B1G, David Bell is the only wide receiver anyone cares about at PU, and he was impossible to screw up.
Outside of Bell and Karlaftis, the entire rest of the Purdue roster is nonimpact guys, it's a lot easier for Milton Wright to produce when defenses are only focused on David Bell. The same can be said for Kydran Jenkins, only reason he had any production was because offenses were so dialed in on stopping Karlaftis.
I can't predict 2023, but several of Allen's assistants are proven recruiters, Charlton Warren, Brandon Shelby, and Deland McCullough are all significantly better recruiters than anyone Brohm has on staff. Even with that, I honestly hope PU out recruits IU in 2023, the fact that they haven't made up any ground on the 2022 class considering the season each team had should frighten Purdue fans. All of these kids could've decommitted and with the exception of our QB commit who went to his in-state school after the guy who recruited him was fired, there have been no other decommitments. Purdue went 8-4 and they still have an average recruit rating near Illinois and below Rutgers. Purdue is bringing in less talent than RUTGERS off a season where they beat two top 5 teams and finished 8-4.
We only ran one pure defensive end and Ryder Anderson was a multi year starter in the SEC, Beau is slated to be the number one defensive end next season(barring any transfer moves). If I had to estimate the amount of snaps Robbins got, he was probably in for about three series' a game.
I will say I didn't post on the message boards at the time, but I'll take your word for it that IU people were clamoring about Tuttle when he showed up. That's the impression I've gotten from people on the Indiana message board anyway. But I was only excited about the Tuttle transfer because I thought it brought stability if and inevitably when Penix went down. After hearing what happened at Utah, I really didn't think he was the future of the program, at least not with Nick Sheridan as QB's coach. Needless to say he has proven that he is not in fact as good as his HS stars would have you think.
I will say, if McCulley flops that's on Indiana because he was a four star coming in, but he's still only a Sophomore next year and never should've even been in the lineup this year. He was only in because of the ridiculously fast accumulation of injuries to the three scholarship guys in front of him.
wow I usually stay out of these guys but to come onto this board and just spew diahrea from the keyboard like you are here is the definition of delusional. You really think Brady Allen was just snatched from Sheridan? You realize he committed to Purdue after his sophomore year and was recruited hard by Ohio state and notre dame and we got him before he received most of his offers? He just won a state championship to add to his resume.
talent is NOT 8th in big ten. You are picking one class that has already been heavily lost. The other three classes on your team is 12, 12, and 10 and most of the top recruits from these classes are gone. You might not be worst in big ten but Purdue’s talent is far better than Indiana’s right now.
and don’t kid yourself there were plenty of Hoosier fans predicting a big ten championship...
Yep we’re frightened lol. And you can’t honestly say the rest of the roster sans Bell/Karlaftis are non-impact guys and have people take you seriously. If you truly believe that, how many impact guys did IU have last year?
Your top two commitments are the son of a coach’s kid and Tiawan’s younger brother lol. Family ties helped keep those commitments.
Are you grateful that IU is the school with the record of 5 wins,8 losses vs the West since Allen has been your Coach?In the same time Brohm has a better record vs.the East at 6 wins,7 losses.If the Hoosiers were in the West,would they consistently beat Iowa,Minnesota and Wisconsin?They sure havent consistently beaten Purdue.You keep on talking about Indianas future because IU fans always like to say wait till next year.
To quantify “talent” coming back for both teams (based on composite at TOS)
tier 1 - 4/5 stars (no 5 stars for either team)
Indiana - 4
Purdue - 6
tier2 - 3 stars 8700-8900
Indiana - 5
Purdue - 7
im not sure where the so called talent gap would be where Indiana still feels like they have Purdue’s number, but it’s not on paper.
tier 1 - 4/5 stars (no 5 stars for either team)
Indiana - 4
Purdue - 6
tier2 - 3 stars 8700-8900
Indiana - 5
Purdue - 7
im not sure where the so called talent gap would be where Indiana still feels like they have Purdue’s number, but it’s not on paper.
Who are you to say Milton Wright had one good game?How good of a season did Ty Fryfogle have?
The all big ten coach selection had our QB as second team all big ten (and leaning on coming back) and Graham, Allen, Durham, and Deen as honorable mention all big ten to go with Wright of the players returning. Indiana had Bedford.
Not sure what your talking about wirh 2022 Purdue is 7th in B1G and IU is 6th according to composite rankings. Neck and neck. Indiana’s top two are family members and 4 & 5 Purdue backed off due to a major injury (as did others) and work ethic. I wouldn’t trade our classes.
Purdue has routinely had one of the deepest WR corps in the conference, if not the country, since Brohm has been here.
Fryfogle sucks but he had a true freshman and walk on throwing to him in half his games and he's not coming back next year anyway. Milton Wright did have one good game, NW is the only game he looked above average.
You see what you want to see, Purdue is 13th out of 14 this year in average recruit rating meaning the only reason PU is 7th right now is because they have significantly more commits than the teams behind them. Iowa, Northwestern and Wisconsin are one mediocre three star commit away from passing Purdue on the rankings and they have three fewer commits. Congrats though, Purdue's average recruit ranking is higher than Illinois.
You'd crap your diaper, twice, if you got a Milton Wright to transfer to IU.
He'd be your leader in reception, yards and TDs.
He'd also have better character and any of your players. LEO and all that with Hendershot beating up exgirlfriends without punishment. Sad and embarrassing.
You had a good class this year because of your fluky COVID year. Your ‘23 class will come crashing back to earth.
You are wrong.He was above average most of the year and had more tds than Fryfogle and Hendershot combined.Both of those overrated turkeys wont be back for the Hoosiers next year along with many of your 10 Seniors that started on defense so you better hope that those supposedly great recruits IU has can play .Your ignorance and arrogance is almost unbelieveable considering the Hoosiers just finished 2 and 10.
So you think Purdue should have not offered schollies to certain people because they don’t want them to drag down their average ranking? For example the last commit we got was a local kid from West Lafayette who has the lowest average but a huge drive and large upside. You think Hagan should have passed on him because it would bring the average down? Doesn’t work like that...
we’re doing fine. We got Brady Allen and Joe Strickland locally who are high 4s. The other guys we had no chance at we understand we aren’t going to be able to compete with everyone. The only major miss we had in this class from Indiana was Popeye Williams who the prior DC did not recruit and hagan made a strong run at late. Would have liked to have him but the rest I’m at peace with.
I watched Walt Bell's press conference while taking a dump, and Wow he's the epitome of a slimy used car salesman. Lots of charisma, low level of substance. LEO, Clappy the Clown and Bob Diaco all in one package.
So with all of this "talent" that iu has, coach leo has yet to beat a Big Ten(or any P5) team that finished with a winning conference record, has yet to beat any team that finished in the rankings and is 1 and 3 against his main rival, who in your estimate has bottom of conference talent.
He's delusional, just like the thread title, and has spent 2 days confirming the fact.
Sounds like the perfect Purdue recruit. One of their top recruits and he's a mediocre in state talent Purdue only had to compete with one other P5 team to land. You thought this was a flex?
Since when is a guy that gets an 87 rating mediocre? He’s rated higher than DJ Moore on 247 so I’m guessing you’d call Moore mediocre too?
I saw you beat out Marshall and UConn for that DL that committed today lol.
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