Congratulations to AJH for winning B1G Defensive Player of the Year...and to RD for just barely missing a repeat performance!
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Oy. Why can't people just be happy about an award? I get what you're saying but come on..Eventually, I hope we can say "a championship lives here". It is great that they typically have good defensive teams, but I'd rather that the program's mantra and focus shift more to other aspects as well.
I don't think that the focus on defense is to the exclusion of offense or anything else, but let's not derail this thread.Eventually, I hope we can say "a championship lives here". It is great that they typically have good defensive teams, but I'd rather that the program's mantra and focus shift more to other aspects as well.
Shut up - and GFYSEventually, I hope we can say "a championship lives here". It is great that they typically have good defensive teams, but I'd rather that the program's mantra and focus shift more to other aspects as well.
How about we get Brian to post a banner on the top of this board that says "Whiners Live Here"???I offer my apologies. I can see that it looks like I'm being a downer (congrats to Hammons for sure) but I just saw the title and it made me think that the whole "defense lives here" mantra gets used more than any other phrase in regards to the men's basketball program. I just think that there are other things that the Purdue basketball program and fanbase could use for inspirational phrases and mantras. I feel like "play hard" and "defense lives here" (even if they are true) gets overused. "Offense lives here" or "winners live here" could be used just as often.
Fair enough. The big issue with what you posted is where you chose to post it, not the content. But, water under the bridgeI offer my apologies. I can see that it looks like I'm being a downer (congrats to Hammons for sure) but I just saw the title and it made me think that the whole "defense lives here" mantra gets used more than any other phrase in regards to the men's basketball program. I just think that there are other things that the Purdue basketball program and fanbase could use for inspirational phrases and mantras. I feel like "play hard" and "defense lives here" (even if they are true) gets overused. "Offense lives here" or "winners live here" could be used just as often.
It takes nothing away from their accomplishments to say "we still have to win the national championship."
Greatness requires setting the bar higher.
Then why not start the one millionth thread whining about how your life won't be complete until "we" win a national championship? Why do it in a thread congratulating players who earned awards?
Then why not start the one millionth thread whining about how your life won't be complete until "we" win a national championship? Why do it in a thread congratulating players who earned awards?
When Johnny Hill was choosing a program, he had a goal of playing in the NCAA Tournament, but when he talked to Ray, he realized that the team's goals were much higher than just making the tournament. Ray has been a tremendous leader who has been very clear that winning is the goal and the expectation. His defense has been something that he improved as a means to reach those team goals. There is nobody on this message board who is more focused on championships than Ray Davis.If that's the game, then you could have quoted me saying, "I'm thrilled Ray Day and AJ have been so honored. It's awesome the program has such a pit bull defensive identity. Having a long list of guys who have won that award has to be motivation and a model for future players."
Instead, you conjured up a straw man: "whining about how your life won't be complete until 'we' win a national championship." I said nothing even remotely close to that.
I didn't start "the one millionth thread" (whining or otherwise) because I'm defending what Nags said on this thread.
And I stand by it.
When Johnny Hill was choosing a program, he had a goal of playing in the NCAA Tournament, but when he talked to Ray, he realized that the team's goals were much higher than just making the tournament. Ray has been a tremendous leader who has been very clear that winning is the goal and the expectation. His defense has been something that he improved as a means to reach those team goals. There is nobody on this message board who is more focused on championships than Ray Davis.
The same could be said about AJ. AJ has made fantastic progress in many aspects of his game, but this thread specifically recognizes his defense.
Straw man? I left your quote in my response. Your "compliment" was followed by "we still have to win the national championship." That is a direct quote, not a straw man. I assume that you know what a back-handed compliment is, because you delivered one.If that's the game, then you could have quoted me saying, "I'm thrilled Ray Day and AJ have been so honored. It's awesome the program has such a pit bull defensive identity. Having a long list of guys who have won that award has to be motivation and a model for future players."
Instead, you conjured up a straw man: "whining about how your life won't be complete until 'we' win a national championship." I said nothing even remotely close to that.
I didn't start "the one millionth thread" (whining or otherwise) because I'm defending what Nags said on this thread.
And I stand by it.
Didn't take offense at all. I was merely trying to point out that this thread was about AJH getting an award and people should be happy about that.I don't know, BBG. I think the big issue is that you immediately chose to take offense at what Nags wrote.
RayD didn't almost have a repeat performance - let's be serious.
He got owned by Hayes this past weekend...and if go back and look at the people he guarded since the knee injury, he's been torched several times. Not the same player.
From the story on the front page of GBI: "The AP report on the awards said Hammons 'edged out' teammate Rapheal Davis for the defensive honor."RayD didn't almost have a repeat performance - let's be serious.
He got owned by Hayes this past weekend...and if go back and look at the people he guarded since the knee injury, he's been torched several times. Not the same player.