Darian DeVries to IU
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Hmmm...let's see. Kelvin was a solid hire until he wasn't. Archie was a solid hire for 59 minutes. Crean was a solid hire and should not have been fired as he had IU at the best they've been since RMK. The first year, Davis was a solid hire but he never really was any more than a DEI hire. Woody was the reincarnation of RMK and a super hire for two seasons.
This is just another mistake in a long line of failed solid Indiana hires. Dolson will live to regret this one for a long, long time. The RMK curse lives on and Purdue will continue to own the clown pants.
Here's how it works at IU...Dolson fired 19-13, 10-10 in the Big Ten and hired 19-13, 10-10 in a watered down Big 12. Woody arguably had a better year than DD! Fresh from the iU BB forum.
But.. but.. BRAD STEVENS IS BEGGING TO COME COACH AT IU!!!!
OMG...Butch stuck in my mind until now...Chris was who I was thinking. Good for you catching my slip! I did some damage to a car yesterday afternoon and so I'm going to blame that rather than me just becoming senile!
Now I must correct above ...Context my man.
Devries inherited a 9-23 WV team, lost his first team all conference player after eight games, and went 19-13
He also took a Drake team that had one NCAA tournament in 47 seasons to the tournament three out his last four there.
He may or may not succeed, but context matters.
Also curious about recent examples of major programs hiring away big names; did not happen at Duke, UK, UNC, or UL.
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Reneau is a solid fit for some team. He would be a positive at Purdue, but not the best fit for the team IMO
Context
The MVC is a far cry from what it used to be, and his tournament run was after the big dogs of the MVC left.
He may end up being a good coach at IU, but it's a far cry from slam dunk and I think the zero NCAA tournament game wins is something to be concerned about as most of your up-and-coming coaches make a name for themselves there. He hasn't.
Maybe it's because he's only been coached by Woodson, and Reneau is a nice kid, but in summary?
You guys don't want him. His rim protection and passing vision stink. Fantastic post scorer though.
It isn't really about Indiana. Big name coaches just aren't leaving their jobs at all. That's how Kentucky and Louisville ended up at Pope and Kelsey. Pope went to two NCAA tourneys at BYU and didn't win a game. Kelsey was at Winthrop for 9 years and went to the tourney twice. Was at Charleston for 3 years, made the tourney twice and didn't win a single round of 64 game. The Drew's, Otzs, McDermotts just aren't leaving. I imagine soon Kansas will be going through the same once Self retires. Purdue in about 15-20 years will be going through the same thing.
He is just another TKR. Can be absolutely dominant in the post, not a defensive threat.
Purdue having TKR and Reneau on the floor at the same time would be the most redundant thing on the planet.
Painter played TKR and Furst together. Ain't no way way he wouldn't play those two together.
I talked to a couple of IU fans at the First Four games last night. Congratulated them on the hire. They acted lukewarm. Said they talked to a WVU fan earlier who seemed glad to see Devries go.
That was surprising to me. WVU had a decent season considering they lost the coaches' son early in they year. Kinda shit the bed late in the season and lost a brutal must win game to open the B12 tourney to Colorado but dude had sustained success at Drake (but only won 1 NCAAT game in 6 seasons).
The best news in the short term is Tucker will follow his dad and instantly be one of the 10 best players in the B1G if he is fully healthy.
That was surprising to me. WVU had a decent season considering they lost the coaches' son early in they year. Kinda shit the bed late in the season and lost a brutal must win game to open the B12 tourney to Colorado but dude had sustained success at Drake (but only won 1 NCAAT game in 6 seasons).
The best news in the short term is Tucker will follow his dad and instantly be one of the 10 best players in the B1G if he is fully healthy.
I think it's time for a new verb. From now on, "Doyeling" is when you sugarcoat something so much in an effort to blow smoke up peoples' asses.
Very big move toward the grand goal of becoming “The DeVries Institute.”
He's a good coach. Immediately flipped 2 dumpster fire programs. Will have the most NIL in the B1G. Has won over 70% of his games.
Anyone else find it funny that Archie Miller and Tom Crean is on this list.
Even funnier is that Tom Ostrom is DeVries lead assistant lol
A lot of Indiana fans are being very cautious it seems. Don't know a ton about him and so they don't know how good it is. I personally think it's great. Will Indiana win the Big Ten next year? Probably not, but they already have a better shot at making the tourney but just not having Woodson around.
Not only those two but he’s obviously better than RMK based on this post as well!
It sounds like you actually agree with what I wrote?
"The bigger name coaches are not going to go to IU. The risk is worse than the reward particularly for those coaches that have a good situation going with teams doing well. They’ve established the recruiting area. They’re known in the area and their program is doing well. Why would they want to start over? The hire was in the realm of possibilities. Based upon the possible coaches that would move to IU he probably checked many boxes"
Goodness -- IU had the only one that really sucked (Archie) and the second worst though not completely sucky (crean).
That might be one of the dumbest analyses I've ever seen. How many of those coaches spent their first 6 seasons in a conference that rarely had more than a couple of KenPom top 100 teams? Painter spent 1 year at SIU before coming to Purdue. Izzo started at MSU. Gard started at Wisky. Beard spent 1 season at a mid-major before going to the B12. Drew spent 1 year at Valpo before taking over a B12 program that just had a player murder another.
The biggest issue with that fan base. They equate winning, NIL and revenue all in one big pie and it doesn't work that way.
I love the CMP approach. They can say what they want about Purdue, but CMP has seemed to find the perfect balance.
I love how the bar for IU now is "this gives us a better chance of making the tournament"
Well, geezus I would sure hope so!
Well, geezus I would sure hope so!
I've heard his offense isn't very good. If true, how do you feel his offense will look in the B1G? We've seen the typical slow offensive teams evolve lately.
And so, it begins.
I've just had the second random IU fan walk up to me and start talking trash because they hired a new coach, and I was wearing my usual Purdue hat.
Fanbase is seriously insufferable.
I've just had the second random IU fan walk up to me and start talking trash because they hired a new coach, and I was wearing my usual Purdue hat.
Fanbase is seriously insufferable.
In today’s age of the transfer portal there is not as much of an excuse to “inherit” a team. We’ve seen entire lineups changed and they’ve seen success.
All but the first sentence. They just aren't going anywhere. Self isn't moving to another school. Few is moving. Drew is at his perfect school. Otz isn't leaving. Scheyer isn't leaving Duke. Etc. guys just aren't leaving. When Izzo retires, Michigan State won't get a big named super home run hire. They'll likely go the same route Indiana did. Purdue will probably do the same when Painter retires. I mean getting a coach from a Power conference team is a big enough of a deal to me. Kind of reminds me of Self going from Tulsa to Illinois to Kansas. Don't know if DeVries will ever be on that level though.
By the way, this is what that dude's profile says:
Mostly discombobulated musings on Indiana sports & things. I like to cherry-pick obscure data to make my opinions appear more valid than they actually are.
And delusional. Oh .. make sure they didn't spit on your pizza when they delivered it.
Did you see Drake before he took over? Again, the point is that he flipped 2 abysmal programs almost immediately.
Huggy had WVU in a decent spot for most of his career there and it was trending downward later. DD didn't flip anything at WVU besides another decent team that didn't make the tourney.
You could have a point at Drake, but there's just not enough for me to believe you really feel with confidence DD is the guy.
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