Couldn’t Ask For Better
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You got that right. Righten the ship two games and go to Indy
We say it 100 times every year and people still say "if we get to the final we'll move up" or "winner will be a 1 and loser a 2" it is absolutely meaningless unless a bubble team goes on a run to bolster their resume.
Crazy to me that we get the 4 in midwest! But give credit to the committee for looking at the entire body of work. I am sure those wins against alabama and ole miss played a huge factor in keeping the 4 line and getting the midwest bracket.
Yep it’s been this way - almost like the league has an agreement - this is only a money maker tourney - don’t really worry about it
And is yet another reason why I have said that I personally cannot stand the BTT. This is not the first time it's been shown to be a meaningless thing.
As already said, unless a team that was not slated to get in wins the whole thing to get the auto bid, it has zero value.
As already said, unless a team that was not slated to get in wins the whole thing to get the auto bid, it has zero value.
agree , plus it more time where an injury can happen
So metrics and NET were actually pretty good and a lot of your worries were not needed! It’s a good thing!
Can’t remember if it was here or X, but it’d be interesting if the top 3 seeds of the conference could opt out of the big ten tourney and allow the bottom 3 to play their way in 😂
Counterpoint … Illinois probably got itself from a 4 seed to a 3 seed last year due to Q1 wins it got in the BTT, and that very likely was the difference between a Second Round/Sweet Sixteen exit and the Elite Eight we got. I think there’s a lot of nuance in how much the BTT “matters.”
My worries are plenty needed because this team is playing awful for a while now and I wouldnt be surprised by anything. We probably beat HP but dont think we are beating clemson
Michigan beat us twice, made the championship game, had a better record.. 11-7 vs quad 1 vs our 7-10... though our quad 2 was way better and we are higher in NET and kenpom.
If recency bias plays even the smallest role I feel michigan should be above us
Just on here. How do we get a 4 and Michigan gets a five? How is my logic better than the leads logic? Convince me.
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Yup, the BTT has little to no impact on seeding. They should move the championship to Saturday.
Or we smoked Michigan at home and were beating them the entire game until the last 4 minutes and the BTT means zip
How many times do people need to be told that there is no such thing as recency bias?
Non conference SOS - reason they said Carolina got in. Bogus maybe but that’s their reasoning
Ah but we definitely could and we don’t know what else happens - that’s the beauty of it
Nah nah. You were always worried about NET and our seeding. I’m saying your worries didn’t need to be as bad as they were.
Ah yes. I knew and know metrics matter a lot. Im still surprised they mattered as much as they did for us with how awful we have looked for an alarmingly long time, but that is why a while ago I was stressing over them early in the year. They matter a LOT
But it doesn't. And you just explained why we were higher.
If, we can get back to playing efficient basketball. This team can win the first 2 rounds and then it's a toss-up or we get beat in round 1 because we let their guards beat us.
The good thing for us. This team has seen this before. We've been beaten by a higher seed and bounced back from it. Personally, I don't see these guys falling in that same trap again.
The good thing for us. This team has seen this before. We've been beaten by a higher seed and bounced back from it. Personally, I don't see these guys falling in that same trap again.
Sounded like the Selection Committee had the bracket 99% completed on Friday and they danced around the indirect question on how North Carolina got in with some new metrics they did not mention by name. I kinda fault the panel when they did not push further to get the answer but I guess they were protecting their jobs! Interesting to see to see if Flagg plays the first game and how well he plays in it or the second game because if he is hurt that should have cost them the #1 seed.
I doubt he will play the first game and maybe not even the second depending on who they play.
Otz was wise to not disclose one of his star players (Gilbert) wont play for rest of year.
Don't forget, the chair of the entire committee is the UNC AD. That definitely had something to do with UNC getting in.
It would make more sense if they had actually won a few of those games, but they didn't. Play a tough non-conference SOS and win nothing? Beating UCLA just doesn't cut it for the best win of the year.
Honestly, unless you're a bubble team, bow out of the BTT and get some rest. Wild.
I'm not here to "defend" UNC getting in. But yes, by the metrics you are better off scheduling tough and losing some versus what IU did and schedule cupcakes and beat them. I'm oversimplifying it, but that is the idea of the OOC SOS.
It was discussed on this board quite a bit early in the season, that IU better play well in conference because their OOC schedule was going to bite them otherwise, and it did.
It just seems in football they do it totally different. Bama always played a weak OOC SOS, but in-conference games helped later in the year. I mean IU was a prime example in football as well.
Agree, in FB you just want to win your games and if you're in a major conference it will usually work out for you. With hoops and the greater number of games, they are able to scrutinize the schedule better.
If I were an IU fan, I would be pissed because I do think they are probably a better team than UNC. But it isn't like these metrics aren't known to everyone. If dopes like me on an internet board can see they might be in for trouble with their OOC schedule, the AD and coach sure can!
I guess, it couldn't have happened to a more deserving program.
