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I often wonder, How dumb was San Diego letting him go so that Rivers could replace him? That has to rank right up there with Boston trading Babe Ruth to the Yankees as the biggest bonehead decision of all time!
Best thing that ever happened to Drew was getting out of SD. Rivers is a good QB and because I am a stat guy I looked it up this morning. Rivers stats are not quite as good as Drew's but Drew has also played with better players. SD has been a train wreck for a long time. Remember the Manning issue? there was no way Archie was going to let his son play there.It's easyeas say that in hindsight. But look at their POV at that time. You got a QB who just tore his shoulder so badly that even doctors said he probably won't ever play again. And then you have a young QB in Rivers, who has great potential, big bodies, physical, durable, great leadership, etc. I think 99% of teams make the same decision the Chargers see. And, it's not like Rivers is a bad QB. The guy is a really good QB.
I often wonder, How dumb was San Diego letting him go so that Rivers could replace him? That has to rank right up there with Boston trading Babe Ruth to the Yankees as the biggest bonehead decision of all time!
Then again the only football I've ever played was fantasy and Drew was my # 1 pick every year .
And the rest is history. Drew did not do bad at San Diego. They chose Rivers as they thought the injury was risky. Don't think Rivers will be HOF.Yes and they signed Dante Culpepper instead. The question they posed last night and what has been posed many times over the years was whether Alabama would be what they are if Drew had passed his physical with the Dolphins.
San Diego's move was pretty obvious at the time. They had a high pick and Brees was not necessarily 100%. If I remember correctly they had just gotten a new GM as well. Might have been Bobby Beatherd before? Whoever the previous GM was he was pro-Brees and had drafted him. I actually remember calling into a Chicago radio show at the end of Brees' non-playing rookie year and the GM was very high on his prospects. Funny thing is I actually remember where I was when I got on the radio - driving on the Dan Ryan. 16 years ago or whatever.
Rivers is an excellent quarterback. He's not a winner like Brees but he is excellent.
When Brees went down, Rivers was in his 3rd season with SD, if memory serves.
He is a good QB, not what I would call "excellent."
A high, high quality individual, no doubt. One I'd go to the mat for, if he was on my team, but (as an impartial observer), not one for whom I'd choose to use my "excellent" label.
I would say Rivers is “excellent” but not “great”, like Drew is. But the trade looked better at the time, as I don’t think any QB had ever made a complete recovery from that shoulder injury before.When Brees went down, Rivers was in his 3rd season with SD, if memory serves.
He is a good QB, not what I would call "excellent."
A high, high quality individual, no doubt. One I'd go to the mat for, if he was on my team, but (as an impartial observer), not one for whom I'd choose to use my "excellent" label.
I would say Rivers is “excellent” but not “great”, like Drew is. But the trade looked better at the time, as I don’t think any QB had ever made a complete recovery from that shoulder injury before.
I put him in the Romo/Eli/Big Ben/Matt Ryan tier. Unfortunately for Philip, he hasn’t been on very talented teams, except for his first couple years as the starter.To each his own, I guess. It's semantics.
I like the guy, but my guess us Rivers will go down in NFL history as another long-term QB with no remarkable accomplishments. I don't consider that "excellent" or "great," but I'd still take him on my team.
I put him in the Romo/Eli/Big Ben/Matt Ryan tier. Unfortunately for Philip, he hasn’t been on very talented teams, except for his first couple years as the starter.
Yeah I tend to think Super Bowls are a LITTLE overrated as far as a way of grading QBs. Organizations win championships- look no further than Eli and Big Ben winning 2 each with great organizations, whereas Romo and Rivers got stuck with Mickey Mouse operations. And as a Cowboys fan, it pains me to say that.This is an interesting conversation.
I'd put him on the level of a Romo, but certainly not Eli, Ben or Matt Ryan, only because of post-season results. Rivers has yet to see a Super Bowl game.
Eli has been in, what, 2 Super Bowls, and was MVP of one? Ben has won 2 Super Bowls, Matt Ryan has been to one.
Granted, getting to the SB is a team effort, but that's one thing that haunted Elway for many years. And, the fact Marino only made one was always a negative on his resume. (No, I'm not comparing Rivers to Elway or Marino, just using them to make a point.)
Regardless, I still think Rivers is a solid QB.
Yeah I tend to think Super Bowls are a LITTLE overrated as far as a way of grading QBs. Organizations win championships- look no further than Eli and Big Ben winning 2 each with great organizations, whereas Romo and Rivers got stuck with Mickey Mouse operations. And as a Cowboys fan, it pains me to say that.
I mean look at the Colts: you could put Elway in his prime on that team, and he wouldn’t of won Jack the last three or four years with that offensive line.
But on second thought, I might put Matt Ryan a half notch above the other three guys.
I agree with your statement about preparation. However, Brees has one other skill. He is far more accurate than most pro quarterbacks. His receivers don't always run he right routes, or make the catches, but Brees will put the ball in the right place throw after throw. He is probably one of the most accurate throwers in the history of the league.I'll elaborate on Rivers: I think his performance and skill set is there, I don't think his preparation is there.
In the NFL, preparation is what separates men from boys. It's what separated Manning(both), Brady, Brees (et al) from others. They didn't have more talent, they had better habits.
While it's true Super Bowls reflect organizations, that organization will only go as far as the QB permits, with RARE exception. (Trent Dilfer and the Ravens might be one example, although I think Trent doesn't get enough credit for what he did to manage and lead that team.)
I agree with your statement about preparation. However, Brees has one other skill. He is far more accurate than most pro quarterbacks. His receivers don't always run he right routes, or make the catches, but Brees will put the ball in the right place throw after throw. He is probably one of the most accurate throwers in the history of the league.