College Aff Action struck down

[Boiler Buck]

Martin Luther King's dream is helped today with a Supreme Court decision...... "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

Everyone who believes in MLKs vision should celebrate this.

Supreme Court strikes down college affirmative action programs

The ruling is the culmination of decades of effort to end the consideration of race in admissions.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[BNIBoiler]

That is a travesty. But of course, you can count on Uncle Clarence Thomas to vote against the very program that got him, Dr. Ben Carson, and Dr. Henry Louis Gates into Yale University. White women should be appalled at this ruling as well. Because they benefitted from affirmative action programs more than any minority group.

 

[SIBoiler2]

That is a travesty. But of course, you can count on Uncle Clarence Thomas to vote against the very program that got him, Dr. Ben Carson, and Dr. Henry Louis Gates into Yale University. White women should be appalled at this ruling as well. Because they benefitted from affirmative action programs more than any minority group.

A travesty is that Ivy League schools refused to admit an extremely qualified student because he was of Asian descent. I believe that is the very definition of discrimination that affirmative action was purported to eliminate.

 

[BuilderBob6]

Martin Luther King's dream is helped today with a Supreme Court decision...... "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

Everyone who believes in MLKs vision should celebrate this.

Supreme Court strikes down college affirmative action programs

The ruling is the culmination of decades of effort to end the consideration of race in admissions.

www.nbcnews.com

Lol. When King made that speech, people were judged by the color of their skin.

A court decision doesn’t suddenly change that, except for people that twist King’s words to fit their agenda.

 

[tjreese]

Martin Luther King's dream is helped today with a Supreme Court decision...... "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

Everyone who believes in MLKs vision should celebrate this.

Supreme Court strikes down college affirmative action programs

The ruling is the culmination of decades of effort to end the consideration of race in admissions.

www.nbcnews.com

It probably means little to nothing. Today a white can identify as a black, or if it is an advantage to be white, a black could identify as a white...a male as a female or a female as a male...course even the SCOTUS can't define what a woman is and so the lines of demarcation become very blurred. Course what is to keep nine other people dressed in black identifying as the SCOTUS? I don't recall how many times someone that is either XY or XX can indentify as something else even in the same day. I guess the Asians couldn't identify as something that might allow them in on merit though...and so it all gets soooooooo confusing

 

[Boiler Buck]

That is a travesty. But of course, you can count on Uncle Clarence Thomas to vote against the very program that got him, Dr. Ben Carson, and Dr. Henry Louis Gates into Yale University. White women should be appalled at this ruling as well. Because they benefitted from affirmative action programs more than any minority group.

I doubt the intelligence of Thomas & Carsen needed ANY help getting into any University. But it's good to know we can always count on you repeat these incorrect lib talking points.

Finally, one can count on bigoted race baters to both not understand and support the views of MLK.....except ONLY when convenient.

 

[Boiler Buck]

It probably means little to nothing. Today a white can identify as a black, or if it is an advantage to be white, a black could identify as a white...a male as a female or a female as a male...course even the SCOTUS can't define what a woman is and so the lines of demarcation become very blurred. Course what is to keep nine other people dressed in black identifying as the SCOTUS? I don't recall how many times someone that is either XY or XX can indentify as something else even in the same day. I guess the Asians couldn't identify as something that might allow them in on merit though...and so it all gets soooooooo confusing

Yes, already heard how Harvard shamefully planning to use essays to go around the desision as a work around to screw over Asian students.

 

[tjreese]

Yes, already heard how Harvard shamefully planning to use essays to go around the desision as a work around

Why does a person have to go to Harvard to identify as a Harvard graduate? Sure there will be work arounds. Many years ago the University of California was trying to eliminate the SAT scores as a requirement since it was not allowing enough minorities into school and so fuzzy metrics allow a lot of wiggle room...

The colleges are just trying to keep up with corporate amerika with their ESG ratings...

 

[BNIBoiler]

I doubt the intelligence of Thomas & Carsen needed ANY help getting into any University. But it's good to know we can always count on you repeat these incorrect lib talking points.

Finally, one can count on bigoted race baters to both not understand and support the views of MLK.....except ONLY when convenient.

Look it up, affirmative action is exactly how Thomas, Carson and several other black men got onto Yale. Y’all are the ones who quote the only MLK quote you know when convenient. MLK would roll over in his grave if he was alive witness this decision. He would have supported affirmative action.

The ironic thing about all of this is that the brains behind, the father of affirmative action in the 60s was a black conservative named Arthur Fletcher. He went on to become Assistant Sec of Labor under Nixon. Also served in the Reagan and Bush admins.

 

[BNIBoiler]

A travesty is that Ivy League schools refused to admit an extremely qualified student because he was of Asian descent. I believe that is the very definition of discrimination that affirmative action was purported to eliminate.

The Asian student probably could not get in because of all the legacy white students that attend these school. No one wants to talk about that.

 

[Joetboiler]

Lol. When King made that speech, people were judged by the color of their skin.

A court decision doesn’t suddenly change that, except for people that twist King’s words to fit their agenda.

Yes. I agree. It won’t. Based upon Harvard’s response and what the DOE guidance will be Asian students will continue to be judged on their brown skin heritage. The subject behind this was an Asian male who had a 4.65 GPA and a near perfect SAT. According to the model his “profile” had only a 20% chance of admission. Do you think that’s fair?

Asians represent a very small minority in our country and yet face the greatest restrictions on college admission and employment because….wait for it…they over achieve. you cool with that?

 

[Joetboiler]

Look it up, affirmative action is exactly how Thomas, Carson and several other black men got onto Yale. Y’all are the ones who quote the only MLK quote you know when convenient. MLK would roll over in his grave if he was alive witness this decision. He would have supported affirmative action.

The ironic thing about all of this is that the brains behind, the father of affirmative action in the 60s was a black conservative named Arthur Fletcher. He went on to become Assistant Sec of Labor under Nixon. Also served in the Reagan and Bush admins.

The goal behind affirmative action was to advance opportunities. Not destroy them. And that’s what it was doing to Asian kids. And before you think this just screwed sone black kid in Gary or Hispanic kid in East Chicago , over 70% of black and Hispanic students at these schools come from the top income brackets. So time to clue in. Schools used the policies to keep in the elites (like the Obama daughters) and keep out the nobody Asian nerd whose parents are nobody’s. Which of the 2 are more likely to become the nation’s next social justice warrior? Probably not the mathlete D&D computer geek from India.

You want to make a change? Fight for socioeconomic diversity at these schools. Because a black kid from Austin has a shit ton more in common with a white kid ftom Appalachia than a black kid from DC attending Sidwell Friend.

Same shit happens in selective enrollment in CPS. That smart black kid from Englewood wasn’t getting into Payton Prep or Whitney Young if some precinct captains daughter wanted the spot, regardless of race.

 

[Boiler Buck]

Look it up, affirmative action is exactly how Thomas, Carson and several other black men got onto Yale. Y’all are the ones who quote the only MLK quote you know when convenient. MLK would roll over in his grave if he was alive witness this decision. He would have supported affirmative action.

The ironic thing about all of this is that the brains behind, the father of affirmative action in the 60s was a black conservative named Arthur Fletcher. He went on to become Assistant Sec of Labor under Nixon. Also served in the Reagan and Bush admins.

You are technically correct. What I thought I said was.....these 2 were so smart they did not need help getting in. But you are correct in the time they grew up, they likely needed AAP to get into school because back then it was a racist society. That NO LONGER is the case at Universities.

NOW .... JCT has written that affirmative action amounts to racial discrimination and is every bit as wrong as segregation or slavery. I agree with him . Since you do NOT, .....why do you believe that these schools had the right to discriminate against Asians?

 

[Boiler Buck]

Biden says majority of Americans say this decision is incorrect.

Another Biden LIE.

Pew poll of American adults finds 74 percent think race and ethnicity should not be considered in admissions decisions. For gender, 82 percent think it shouldn’t be considered.

Poll finds the public doesn't favor affirmative action

Pew poll of American adults finds 74 percent think race and ethnicity should not be considered in admissions decisions. For gender, 82 percent think it shouldn’t be considered.

www.insidehighered.com

 

[BNIBoiler]

You are technically correct. What I thought I said was.....these 2 were so smart they did not need help getting in. But you are correct in the time they grew up, they likely needed AAP to get into school because back then it was a racist society. That NO LONGER is the case at Universities.

NOW .... JCT has written that affirmative action amounts to racial discrimination and is every bit as wrong as segregation or slavery. I agree with him . Since you do NOT, .....why do you believe that these schools had the right to discriminate against Asians?

No longer like that because of affirmative action. Not despite of. Affirmative action is not discrimination. It allowed folks equal opportunity. I don’t remember y’all saying it’s discrimination when white women were the main beneficiaries of affirmative action.

As far as the Asian student. What about legacy entries? How much does that have an impact on who gets in. That’s the only way Bush the Younger got into Yale.

 

[Boiler Buck]

No longer like that because of affirmative action. Not despite of. Affirmative action is not discrimination. It allowed folks equal opportunity. I don’t remember y’all saying it’s discrimination when white women were the main beneficiaries of affirmative action.

As far as the Asian student. What about legacy entries? How much does that have an impact on who gets in. That’s the only way Bush the Younger got into Yale.

The "legacy" is NOT an answer. Not disagreeing with you on that. But it is NOT related to this decision. Different subject.

So still waiting on answer...
Why do you believe that these schools had the right to discriminate against Asians?

 

[Joetboiler]

No longer like that because of affirmative action. Not despite of. Affirmative action is not discrimination. It allowed folks equal opportunity. I don’t remember y’all saying it’s discrimination when white women were the main beneficiaries of affirmative action.

As far as the Asian student. What about legacy entries? How much does that have an impact on who gets in. That’s the only way Bush the Younger got into Yale.

Do you think the Obama daughters who got into Harvard or Michigan had better scores than the overwhelming numbers of Asian kids rejected that same year? I bet they didn’t have a 4.65 GPA and a near perfect SAT. Hell I bet there were a ton of immigrant or first generation Nigerians with better scores. Some day you’ll realize it’s not about race l. It’s about socio economics. But as long as they can keep you think it’s the former they can keep you mad and punching that ticket.

 

[BuilderBob6]

The "legacy" is NOT an answer. Not disagreeing with you on that. But it is NOT related to this decision. Different subject.

So still waiting on answer...
Why do you believe that these schools had the right to discriminate against Asians?

Admittedly, I have not been following the case at all.

But I don’t understand. How does your statement square with the fact that “In a breakdown of the incoming class-released by the university last week, Harvard revealed that 29.9% of admitted applicants are Asian American.”

Harvard admits record number of Asian American students while Black and Latino admissions drop

Experts say Asian American admits’ uptick is a natural progression, but the drop in Black and Latino students concerns them.

www.nbcnews.com

I don’t think the fact that the case was brought on behalf of an Asian student means what you think it does.

 

[RespecttheStars]

Yes. I agree. It won’t. Based upon Harvard’s response and what the DOE guidance will be Asian students will continue to be judged on their brown skin heritage. The subject behind this was an Asian male who had a 4.65 GPA and a near perfect SAT. According to the model his “profile” had only a 20% chance of admission. Do you think that’s fair?

Asians represent a very small minority in our country and yet face the greatest restrictions on college admission and employment because….wait for it…they over achieve. you cool with that?

Preach brother.

You keep making sense and this
f-stick is going to quickly run out of material for rhetoric, posturing and self flagellation. Or is it fellation. Not sure.

But I’m sure this pronoun will try…….

 

[BNIBoiler]

The "legacy" is NOT an answer. Not disagreeing with you on that. But it is NOT related to this decision. Different subject.

So still waiting on answer...
Why do you believe that these schools had the right to discriminate against Asians?

The answer is I don’t know. You will have to ask the schools yourself. I still say legacy was a big issue. How many of the legacy kids had the grades comparable to this Asian dude? How do you know legacy did not way in? Legacy entries have been going on since the beginning of the US.

 

[BNIBoiler]

Do you think the Obama daughters who got into Harvard or Michigan had better scores than the overwhelming numbers of Asian kids rejected that same year? I bet they didn’t have a 4.65 GPA and a near perfect SAT. Hell I bet there were a ton of immigrant or first generation Nigerians with better scores. Some day you’ll realize it’s not about race l. It’s about socio economics. But as long as they can keep you think it’s the former they can keep you mad and punching that ticket.

That is actually the point I’m trying to make. Somebody says that discrimination is why the Asian dude did not get in. In the US that is highly possible. I just wonder how many legacy kids got in and pushed the Asian kid out of consideration. Race is still a factor in a lot situations whether you believe it or not.

 

[SIBoiler2]

The answer is I don’t know. You will have to ask the schools yourself. I still say legacy was a big issue. How many of the legacy kids had the grades comparable to this Asian dude? How do you know legacy did not way in? Legacy entries have been going on since the beginning of the US.

You've learned the Democrat way very well. Instead of answering the question posed to you, your reply is always a diversion. Instead of answering how it's OK and not racist to deny an Asian kid a 4.65 GPA and a 1550 SAT admission while admitting a black student with the same achievement level. It was stated that he was advised his likelihood of admission as an Asian was about 23% but would rise to 90% if he were black. That is the factual definition of discrimination. Legacy admissions are wrong but their existence does not explain the 23/90 percentage difference.

 

[Boiler Buck]

. Race is still a factor in a lot situations whether you believe it or not.

Race is meaningless, and likely the least interesting thing about anyone.

The Supreme Court apparently is backing my opinion on that.. at least when it comes to admissions. 72% of Americans also agree with me.

 

[GeorgeDubya]

You've learned the Democrat way very well. Instead of answering the question posed to you, your reply is always a diversion. Instead of answering how it's OK and not racist to deny an Asian kid a 4.65 GPSMA and a 1550 SAT admission while admitting a black student with the same achievement level. It was stated that he was advised his likelihood of admission as an Asian was about 23% but would rise to 90% if he were black. That is the factual definition of discrimination. Legacy admissions are wrong but their existence does not explain the 23/90 percentage difference.

Lol he really is the quintessential Democrat. Ignore anything that challenges the narrative or proves the narrative wrong. He never responds when he’s proven wrong and when he does respond, he always includes a diversion. They’ve trained the cult followers well.

 

[Boiler Buck]

Lol he really is the quintessential Democrat. Ignore anything that challenges the narrative or proves the narrative wrong. He never responds when he’s proven wrong and when he does respond, he always includes a diversion. They’ve trained the cult followers well.

True.

Besides the obvious, another great side note of this decision.... is that it has pointed out who the REAL RACIST are. All over media it is not hard to find these racist with the soft bigotry of low expectations. Here is a great example below. Note what she says about Black people...wow!! This is flat out racist, downgrading statement... and why I say these Dems, are the true racists in this country....

 

[GeorgeDubya]

True.

Besides the obvious, another great side note of this decision.... is that it has pointed out who the REAL RACIST are. All over media it is not hard to find these racist with the soft bigotry of low expectations. Here is a great example below. Note what she says about Black people...wow!! This is flat out racist, downgrading statement... and why I say these Dems, are the true racists in this country....

View embedded media

I’ve said it forever…white liberals are by far the most racist group of people in America and second place isn’t close. Another great example!!!

 

[BNIBoiler]

Race is meaningless, and likely the least interesting thing about anyone.

The Supreme Court apparently is backing my opinion on that.. at least when it comes to admissions. 72% of Americans also agree with me.

Y’all are trying to have it both ways. You just said race is meaningless. But at the same time say that this Asian dude was discriminated against. Perhaps these universities don’t want to give up any legacy spots. Or lose key donations to the institutions.

 

[SIBoiler2]

Per Erica Marsh (blonde/pale face) "No Black person will be able to succeed in a merit-based system...". Sad commentary on how the left views black persons. I do not hold such an opinion. I've known some black people who have been high achievers on their own merit. I also know a great many white people with outstanding opportunities that ended up as abject failures.

 

[Boiler Buck]

Y’all are trying to have it both ways. You just said race is meaningless. But at the same time say that this Asian dude was discriminated against. Perhaps these universities don’t want to give up any legacy spots. Or lose key donations to the institutions.

No. The Asian guy was discriminated against because race WAS considered. The Supreme Court said the University was incorrect for doing so. And yes as far as college admissions.... now race is meaningless. A victory for all people who believe in what MLK stood for and said.

Legacy spots and donations we agree on, but it is not relevant to this discussion.

 

[Joetboiler]

I’ve said it forever…white liberals are by far the most racist group of people in America and second place isn’t close. Another great example!!!

In defense of my classic liberal friends, they are actually "white progressives." There is very little about the modern Democratic party that is "liberal."

 

[BNIBoiler]

No. The Asian guy was discriminated against because race WAS considered. The Supreme Court said the University was incorrect for doing so. And yes as far as college admissions.... now race is meaningless. A victory for all people who believe in what MLK stood for and said.

Legacy spots and donations we agree on, but it is not relevant to this discussion.

Again, that’s my point. Race is significant no matter how you look at it. Y’all keep quii ok ring the only MLK quote that you know. But with this Supreme Court decision, MLK along with Thurgood Marshall would be rolling in their graves. Clarence Thomas is a failure.

 

[Joetboiler]

That is actually the point I’m trying to make. Somebody says that discrimination is why the Asian dude did not get in. In the US that is highly possible. I just wonder how many legacy kids got in and pushed the Asian kid out of consideration. Race is still a factor in a lot situations whether you believe it or not.

I commend you. You are getting closer. But the kids taking those selective enrollment spots from disadvantaged minorities in Chicago are privileged minorities. Often less deserving. And what happens to the kid in Austin or South Shore? They go to a shit public school if they cant afford a private school. And now the scholarship lifeline many used is being terminated by a bunch of Teacher Union toadies, Marxists, and white saviors. W/o the early education and high school opportunity these kids are screwed. They matriculate less than 5% to college. Wasted lives. So you want to make a difference? disadvantaged families should demand the same education opportunities that the kids of the Democratic overlords get. Do you agree?

 

[Joetboiler]

Again, that’s my point. Race is significant no matter how you look at it. Y’all keep quii ok ring the only MLK quote that you know. But with this Supreme Court decision, MLK along with Thurgood Marshall would be rolling in their graves. Clarence Thomas is a failure.

Have you ever researched why JCT opposes modern day AA? Or read his opinion(s) on the matter?

 

[Boiler Buck]

Again, that’s my point. Race is significant no matter how you look at it. Y’all keep quii ok ring the only MLK quote that you know. But with this Supreme Court decision, MLK along with Thurgood Marshall would be rolling in their graves. Clarence Thomas is a failure.

There is absolutely nothing in your statement I agree with.

Since MLK, the Supreme Court & 72% of the population agrees with me, perhaps you should rethink your position on this whole deal.

This is a great step forward for America and a great step toward MLKs vision for America. A step forward against those with a race-infused world view. And a cause for celebration for fairness, justice and what is right for the youth in America.

 

[BNIBoiler]

Have you ever researched why JCT opposes modern day AA? Or read his opinion(s) on the matter?

Yes, Uncle Clarence Thomas said that after graduating from law school he could not land an opening at a prestigious law firm. He blamed his affirmative action entry into school that cost him the opportunity at these law firms. He most likely did not get hired at the law firms because was black. Not because how he got into Yale.

Uncle Clarence Thomas is one of those Negroes that metaphorically climbed the ladder of success. Then when he reached the top, in his ruling he kicked that ladder down so no other blacks can get to where he is at. Blacks have seen this movie before. Like the old saying in the black community, I’m glad Thomas wasn’t around to free the slaves.

 

[GeorgeDubya]

Yes, Uncle Clarence Thomas said that after graduating from law school he could not land an opening at a prestigious law firm. He blamed his affirmative action entry into school that cost him the opportunity at these law firms. He most likely did not get hired at the law firms because was black. Not because how he got into Yale.

Uncle Clarence Thomas is one of those Negroes that metaphorically climbed the ladder of success. Then when he reached the top, in his ruling he kicked that ladder down so no other blacks can get to where he is at. Blacks have seen this movie before. Like the old saying in the black community, I’m glad Thomas wasn’t around to free the slaves.

“Uncle” not once but twice. Cringe

The black eagle and his 25 listeners are going to be crying this morning and all weekend, thoughts and prayers

 

[BNIBoiler]

There is absolutely nothing in your statement I agree with.

Since MLK, the Supreme Court & 72% of the population agrees with me, perhaps you should rethink your position on this whole deal.

This is a great step forward for America and a great step toward MLKs vision for America. A step forward against those with a race-infused world view. And a cause for celebration for fairness, justice and what is right for the youth in America.

If this is a great step forward for America, why doesn't this supreme court ruling include the US military institutions?

 

[Boiler Buck]

If this is a great step forward for America, why doesn't this supreme court ruling include the US military institutions?

Listen I know this has been a tough decision for you and your race infused world view. But your reaching now.

It's 2023 now, and we should celebrate the great progress that has made where AA in college admissions based on race or sex is no longer needed. It's really quite remarkable the tremendous strides we've made to where we are now. This court decision is a recognition and culmination of all that where AA is no longer needed. Great news for America, and that excites me for the future. MLK would beam with pride... it's his vision coming true for our young people.

 

[BNIBoiler]

Listen I know this has been a tough decision for you and your race infused world view. But your reaching now.

It's 2023 now, and we should celebrate the great progress that has made where AA in college admissions based on race or sex is no longer needed. It's really quite remarkable the tremendous strides we've made to where we are now. This court decision is a recognition and culmination of all that where AA is no longer needed. Great news for America, and that excites me for the future. MLK would beam with pride... it's his vision coming true for our young people.

MLK would beam with pride? Are you kidding me? He would be pissed at this decision. Again, why is this decision good for universities and colleges and not the Naval Academy, West Point, Air Force Academy, etc?

 

[Boiler Buck]

Why is this decision good for universities and colleges and not the Naval Academy, West Point, Air Force Academy, etc?

I have no idea?? I know nothing on this subject to speak to it.